Regina | New Mosaic Stadium

[Festivus]

Wait so the announcement that would help out of town people was just the webcam?

That was definitely over-hyping and under-delivering! Haha.

[VANRIDERFAN]

Originally Posted by Drofmab

Yes, that's the one. It's labelled RUSI/ROM on this map: http://www.rusiregina.ca/index.php?o...d=15&Itemid=12

With the RUSI gone, Crown assets could also get rid of some of the vehicle park that is behind it. Right now it is kind of a junk yard for Sgts and WO to park the stuff their spouses don't want in the garage at home!

[VANRIDERFAN]

Originally Posted by Festivus

Wait so the announcement that would help out of town people was just the webcam?

That was definitely over-hyping and under-delivering! Haha.

For this out of towner it definitely over delivered!

[Treesplease]

Originally Posted by Festivus

Wait so the announcement that would help out of town people was just the webcam?

That was definitely over-hyping and under-delivering! Haha.

were you seriously expecting an monorail to Whitecity?

[Stormer]

This validates the decision not to go bigger with Mosaic Stadium II. The article doesn't mention the other factor: giant HD TV's in every home. This mostly affects poor weather attendance.

http://www.bnn.ca/News/2014/9/4/Stad...nce-falls.aspx

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by Stormer

This validates the decision not to go bigger with Mosaic Stadium II. The article doesn't mention the other factor: giant HD TV's in every home. This mostly affects poor weather attendance.

http://www.bnn.ca/News/2014/9/4/Stad...nce-falls.aspx

No, that article validates going smaller for a mature league that's already bumped up against its limit as far as stadium size. We should have learned by now that simply importing what works in a foreign country and expecting it to apply here is simplistic and ill advised.

Some variables are the same, but lots are very different. The CFL needs to tailor everything to what makes sense for this league and this market. The CFL isn't a mature league with 80,000 seat stadia. It's a league still attempting to reach its potential, a league still in growth mode, and operating in cities experiencing tremendous growth.

When Regina's population closes in on 400,000 in 20 years time, will 33,000 cut it? I imagine by then, this will be configured at the Grey Cup capacity of 40,000 permanently. But then what? This likely has to serve Regina for another 60 years after that.

Even if CFL stadia all grew to the size of Commonwealth or BC Place they'd still be smaller than the downsized NFL stadia being contemplated south of the border.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by isaidso

Even if CFL stadia all grew to the size of Commonwealth or BC Place they'd still be smaller than the downsized NFL stadia being contemplated south of the border.

Those NFL markets are typically 5-10x larger than CFL markets, though. Regina is a city of less than a quarter-million people. 33,000 people in attendance is over 10% of the entire city! I'm not sure how much higher you could reasonably expect to go from there. Besides, there is room to expand whenever the need arises.

And in every CFL city where a large NFL-sized venue has been built (Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal, Edmonton), the extra seating has arguably been more of a hindrance as it kills the possibility of routine sellouts. No CFL team needs a 50,000 seat venue.

[dsmmace]

The stadium is being built with the possibility of further expansion or reduction in seats. The build is not one dimensional or single purpose.

We started working last week at the stadium. I'm very excited to be a part of this project.

[Dan0myte]

Originally Posted by isaidso

When Regina's population closes in on 400,000 in 20 years time, will 33,000 cut it?

I like how you make this sound like it's inevitable. You're expecting 10,000 people move into the Regina CMA each year consistently for the next 20 years? Throughout this boom we've been gaining around 3000-4000 people a year which is a record pace. If we keep that up we'll be around 300,000 people in the Regina CMA in 20 years, but that's a big IF.

If Sask stays active and booming, there's a chance we'll reach 400,000 people by year 2057.

[SkydivePilot]

This thread ought to be entitled: "Mosaic Stadium II", since it won't be any more of a 'Multi-Purpose Entertainment Facility' than the old Mosaic.

Just a thought.

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by Dan0myte

I like how you make this sound like it's inevitable. You're expecting 10,000 people move into the Regina CMA each year consistently for the next 20 years? Throughout this boom we've been gaining around 3000-4000 people a year which is a record pace. If we keep that up we'll be around 300,000 people in the Regina CMA in 20 years, but that's a big IF.

If Sask stays active and booming, there's a chance we'll reach 400,000 people by year 2057.

It's been in the 2-3% range for the last while. If Regina (a little over 230k) grows at 3% for the next 20 years... It will indeed be over 400k. Definitely on the high side of projections, but not as ridiculous as you're making it out to be.

Usually when doing population projections, you use a compound rate rather than a linear amount.

[thefourthtower]

Does any one know if PCL are doing any construction work on this beauty during the winter !

[djforsberg]

Originally Posted by thefourthtower

Does any one know if PCL are doing any construction work on this beauty during the winter !

Yes, of course they are. I don't think building construction halts in winter.

[VANRIDERFAN]

Just looking at the web cam and it appears that the mobile crane truck has arrived to start erecting the NE tower crane.

[Drofmab]

Originally Posted by Nathan

It's been in the 2-3% range for the last while. If Regina (a little over 230k) grows at 3% for the next 20 years... It will indeed be over 400k. Definitely on the high side of projections, but not as ridiculous as you're making it out to be.

Usually when doing population projections, you use a compound rate rather than a linear amount.

at 2%, 230k grows to 341k over 20 years
at 3%, 230k grows to 415k over 20 years

These are aggressive growth rates to sustain for 20 years... from 2006-2013, Regina CMA grew by slightly over 2.5% annually (195k to 232.1k).

Safe to say Calgary's been at the high end of Canadian population growth over the past couple of decades & its CMA has grown by about 3.4% annually over from 2006-2013. When we look at a longer timeframe (17years), Calgary has maintained a 3% average annual growth (822k in 1996 to 1.365million in 2013).

A more stable, but growing, city is Ottawa: it's grown at 2.1% from 2006-2013. Over the longer timeframe, Ottawa CMA has maintained 1.55% average annual growth (1.002million in 1996 to 1.305million in 2013).


If Regina CMA maintains growth at a similar rate to Ottawa's longer-term rate (1.55 over 17years), we'd be looking at a 2034 population of 313k.

[jigglysquishy]

The city is anticipating a 2.5% growth rate for the next decade. Avison & Young also projects a 2.5% growth rate in the region "for the foreseeable future" in their office space report.

For 2030 that puts us at ~350,000, which is a fair assessment. We won't be growing at a Calgary pace, but I fully expect Calgary-Edmonton-Saskatoon-Regina to be the top four cities for growth throughout the next decade. 2.5% per year is a reasonable expectation.

[thefourthtower]

The crane is being erected , on Migs twitter account it shows how massive the project is

[thefourthtower]

Well the crane is up looks very tall three more to go

[cutterp]

The dirt that is being dumped along the service road west of Lewvan overpass...
Is that the dirt from the stadium?

[Stormer]

Originally Posted by cutterp

The dirt that is being dumped along the service road west of Lewvan overpass...
Is that the dirt from the stadium?

yes