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Wynne reveals details of massive Toronto-region rail expansion plan



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The Ontario government has rolled out details on a $13.5-billion expansion of the Toronto-region GO rail, a huge investment that leaves little money for other transit projects around the region.

Going to more frequent ‎service with electric trains across much of the network was a campaign promise of the Liberals last year and will be funded in part by the sale of a stake in Hydro One.

Among the details was that it will take until 2022 or 2023 to electrify the GO corridors needed by Toronto Mayor John Tory for his transit plan. During the campaign last year he promised to have his proposal running within seven years.

The GO service changes will start this year and mean major improvements for suburbanites.

At the end of five years there will be nearly 700 more trains running each week. That translates into a roughly 40 per cent increase in the number of trains on weekdays, the bulk of it at off-peak times. Service on the weekend will jump by more than 140 per cent.
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Pretty damn offensive when Wynne sells an Ontario utility and yet all the proceeds go to just Toronto. The GTA is only 6.7 million..............not even half the provinces population but Wynne seems to be governing like she is more a Mayor of a city than the Premier of a province
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Pretty damn offensive when Wynne sells an Ontario utility and yet all the proceeds go to just Toronto. The GTA is only 6.7 million..............not even half the provinces population but Wynne seems to be governing like she is more a Mayor of a city than the Premier of a province

Of the $31.5 billion allotted for transit in Ontario, $16.5 billion (52%) of that is for the GTHA. The GTHA has 7.3 million people. That's 53% of Ontario's 13.7 million people (pretty sure its economic/tax contribution meanwhile is significantly higher). It's also seen much higher growth than the rest of the province in recent decades and faces much worse congestion, with a larger backlog of necessary transit projects. That's plenty fair.
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And everywhere else in Ontario pretty much only uses buses.
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In all fairness, GO Train's geographic footprint is the Greater Golden Horseshoe (9.2 million people) rather than either just the GTA or GTHA as have been mentioned. Kitchener is already part of the system, Niagara Falls will go from seasonal service to year round full service, while expansion to Peterborough is expected by 2020.

Spending the bulk of Ontario Hydro's proceeds on GO Train is what should happen. Wynne isn't behaving like Ontario = Toronto but recognizing that the GGH accounts for 70% of this province's population and this needs to happen. The petty regionalism in Canada never ceases to amaze me.
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Ontario Moving Forward with Hurontario-Main Light Rail Transit Project

April 21, 2015

Project to Bring 23 KM, 26 Stops of Light Rail Transit to Mississauga, Brampton

As part of the largest infrastructure investment in Ontario's history, Ontario is moving ahead with the Hurontario-Main Light Rail Transit (LRT) project.

This LRT is a new public transit project, led by Metrolinx, that will bring 23 kilometres of rapid transit to Mississauga and Brampton. The LRT line is proposed to have 26 stops, including three stops within downtown Mississauga and two stops in downtown Brampton. The service will move more people faster through these corridors than the existing bus service.

Through the Moving Ontario Forward plan the government is investing in priority rapid transit projects that will connect to the GO Transit network and other transit systems across the Greater Toronto and Hamilton Area (GTHA). These priority rapid transit projects will increase transit ridership, reduce travel times, manage congestion, connect people to jobs, and improve the economy.

On April 16, 2015, Ontario moved ahead with its plan to unlock the value of certain public assets. This will provide the province with approximately $4 billion to build new transit and other priority infrastructure projects through Moving Ontario Forward.

Investing more than $130 billion over 10 years in public infrastructure ­-- the largest infrastructure investment in the province's history -- is part of the government's plan for Ontario. The four-part plan is building Ontario up by investing in people's talents and skills, building new public infrastructure like roads and transit, creating a dynamic, innovative environment where business thrives, and building a secure retirement savings plan.


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The province’s Moving Ontario Forward plan will make $31.5 billion available over the next 10 years for investments in priority infrastructure projects across the province and is expected to support over 20,000 jobs per year, on average, in construction and related industries.
Under Moving Ontario Forward, around $16 billion is being allocated to transit and transportation projects in the Greater Toronto and Hamilton Area (GTHA), and about $15 billion available for investment in roads, bridges, transit and other critical infrastructure in the rest of the province.
The Hurontario-Main LRT will provide a crucial link between many of the region’s existing transit lines, including GO Transit’s Kitchener, Milton and Lakeshore West rail lines, Brampton Züm, and the Mississauga Transitway BRT.





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Spending the bulk of Ontario Hydro's proceeds on GO Train is what should happen. Wynne isn't behaving like Ontario = Toronto but recognizing that the GGH accounts for 70% of this province's population and this needs to happen. The petty regionalism in Canada never ceases to amaze me.
Not to mention that transit agencies in the GTA (i.e. Metrolinx) actually have asked for things and conducted EAs.

If Windsor or London or Sudbury want transit money, their municipal/regional leaders would have to identify projects that they want money to be spent on.
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Pretty damn offensive when Wynne sells an Ontario utility and yet all the proceeds go to just Toronto. The GTA is only 6.7 million..............not even half the provinces population but Wynne seems to be governing like she is more a Mayor of a city than the Premier of a province
You can see also the Provincial Gas Tax. They share 2 cents per litre to municipalities for transit (over $300 million per year), but City of Toronto get more than half of it (around $160 million year) even though it has 1/5 the population of the province.

Wynne only cares about Toronto, it's true. Hudak should have been premier instead. He would have put Toronto in it's proper place.
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isn't the gas tax allocated based on ridership?
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isn't the gas tax allocated based on ridership?
Gas tax is based on a combination of ridership and population. I forget the allocation rules but they're very consistent and mathematical. It's something like 3/4 population based and 1/4 ridership based, I believe.

Given that the TTC (Toronto proper) and OC Transpo (Ottawa) have massively higher per capita ridership than other Ontario agencies, they probably receive the lion's share of the money.
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Via Rail CEO ‘cautiously optimistic’ Liberals will back $4B rail investment
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The head of Via Rail plans to convince the Liberal government that increases in ridership and revenue suggest a growing market for dedicated passenger rail, while worsening punctuality and longer trips reinforce the need.

CEO Yves Desjardins-Siciliano said the Crown Corporation will submit a $4 billion dedicated track plan for the busy Toronto-Montreal-Ottawa corridor to the new transport minister within months of the Nov. 4 announcement of the next federal cabinet.

The project — which has already attracted attention from potential investors at Canada’s big pension funds — would dramatically improve convenience and efficiency, he said.
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John Tory’s SmartTrack transit plan for Toronto getting smaller, cheaper



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Mayor John Tory’s SmartTrack transit plan is becoming smaller and cheaper, with the promise of more frequent service, The Globe and Mail has learned.

Staff with the city and the regional transit agency Metrolinx have been working on how to integrate SmartTrack with plans to expand GO Transit rail service, and, according to sources and a draft government document, a revamped version of the plan is taking shape.

The latest estimate is that the proposed integration of SmartTrack would add $2-billion to $3.5-billion to the existing GO plans.

Although details have not been finalized, Metrolinx staff are expected to recommend adding only four or five new stations along the Kitchener and Stouffville corridors, and an LRT – instead of heavy rail – along Eglinton Avenue West to Pearson airport. The plan originally called for three stations along that stretch, but with an LRT, staff are looking at between six and 17 stations.

SmartTrack was central to Mr. Tory’s successful mayoral campaign – featured on his lawn signs and referenced in nearly every appearance – even though his policy was not spelled out. As a candidate, and then as mayor, he argued that he didn’t have the resources to hire engineers to work out all the details of what he thought would be an $8-billion project.

Those studies were approved by city council, with the results expected to appear in the coming months.

At city hall, staff are expected to concur with Metrolinx that LRT is the best way to serve the western portion of Mr. Tory’s plan. And they will suggest that the service from the Mount Dennis neighbourhood in the west to Kennedy station in the east be prioritized, with this U-shaped section and the LRT forming Phase 1 of the project. The northeastern section up to Markham would be pushed into the future.
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The LRT should at least be tunneled under major intersections to avoid sitting in traffic. The fact these trains wait in traffic like streetcars is a very costly mistake. A Vancouver style train system wouldve been far better and less expensive than a tunneled subway (aka that overpriced extension to Vaughan where everyone drives )
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The LRT should at least be tunneled under major intersections to avoid sitting in traffic. The fact these trains wait in traffic like streetcars is a very costly mistake. A Vancouver style train system wouldve been far better and less expensive than a tunneled subway (aka that overpriced extension to Vaughan where everyone drives )
You do not build elevated trains through dense neighbourhoods. This is highly destructive and lowers land values.
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Tunelling under intersections would be a good idea, how expensive, I don't know.

The boring machine does it in one shot, here you gotta do this every 300 to 500 meters - could be costly.

A trench, though....
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New proposal for Scarborough subway plan includes fewer stops, New LRT to UTSC




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A major revamp of the contentious $3.5-billion Scarborough subway is heading to council, The Globe and Mail has learned.

The plan drafted by city staff would lower the cost of the subway project by having fewer stations – one stop instead of three – by running the train directly from Kennedy station to Scarborough Town Centre and then stopping. According to a high level source who has been briefed on the proposal, the savings could be ploughed into extending the Eglinton Crosstown LRT to the University of Toronto campus in the east end.

Combined with other changes related to Mayor John Tory’s SmartTrack plan, the idea offers the prospect of an LRT eventually running from Pearson International Airport in the west to the U of T Scarborough campus in the east.

Sources said that shortening the subway and eliminating two stations would shave $1-billion off the cost of roughly $3.5-billion. Subway builders would avoid the costly exercise of tunnelling under the 401 highway to Sheppard Avenue, which was to have been the terminus of the subway.

The subway would no longer stop at Lawrence Avenue, but nearby stops on Mayor John Tory’s ‎proposed SmartTrack line would take up some of the ridership slack.
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And everywhere else in Ontario pretty much only uses buses.
Well, maybe 'far away' places like Thunder Bay should get a short streetcar line, but not Kenora (it's too small).
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Really impressed reading what happening in Toronto on the transit front these days. Fare recovery ratio is also the highest in North America for any big city transit system.

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TTC on verge of being top in North America, Byford says

Andy Byford is counting down the days until the end of 2017. That’s when he believes Toronto transit riders will be able to enjoy what he calls the “utopian journey of the future on the TTC.”

The upcoming year is a pivotal one for the TTC CEO and the organization he oversees. It’s the final chapter of the five-year plan that Byford launched to completely modernize an agency he says was “stuck in the 70s” when he took over in 2012.

He paints a rosypicture of the experience of riding the transit system once the plan is complete. He vows that by year’s end the Toronto-York Spadina subway extension, the first addition to the city’s subway network in over a decade, will be open.

Customers will be able to access each of its six “stunning” stations with the tap of a Presto fare card, and inside they will be greeted by a roving TTC employee — no longer confined to a collection booth — who will offer directions and schedule information at the touch of a tablet computer.

Taking the fully accessible station’s elevator down to the platform, customers will be able to browse the internet on a wifi network that extends across the subway system, as they wait for a train that will be faster and more efficient thanks to the implementation of the automatic train control (ATC) system on a portion of Line 1.

“That ladies and gentleman, that sounds like utopia,” Byford said during the TTC’s annual customer town hall in November.

In an interview, he said he believes the improvements slated for 2017 will restore the TTC’s reputation. “I think we will meet that objective of being back to number one in North America by the end of this year,” he said.

The five-year plan laid out a road map for improving virtually every aspect of the TTC, from public safety, employee relations, financial stability, and public reputation. The agency has met some of the targets, which are regularly updated, but missed others.

Achievements Byford points to include the rollout of new subway cars and articulated buses, the ongoing overhaul of the woefully outdated communication system on surface vehicles, and the continued cost-saving modernization of the agency’s back office systems.

He’s also overseen an update of employee uniforms, restructured station staffing to be more customer-focused, and attempted to address the cleanliness of what he says was once a “squalid” subway system.

Short turns, long the bane of subway and bus riders, have been drastically reduced since 2014, and according to Byford subway delays caused by infrastructure failures are down 21 per cent since that year thanks to a proactive maintenance regime.

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