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citywatch · #**9501** Posted **Sep 7, 2020, 5:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by LA21st

It's also very transit accessible, with the Expo line. I believe Lucas thought that was important.

that's why when Treasure island in SF was later being promoted as a site for his museum, and that part of the bay area has few access points, and was more isolated than ideal, it probably to him wouldn't seem an ideal alternative to the chicago location.

archinect.com, credit the George Lucas Museum of Narrative Art, via NBC

Will O' Wisp · #**9502** Posted **Sep 7, 2020, 7:46 PM**

The whole story with the Lucas Museum is really interesting, Vanity Fair did a good article on it shortly after LA was finally selected.

George Lucas Strikes Back: Inside the Fight to Build the Lucas Museum

There's a deep irony about the museum coming to LA. Immediately after graduating UCLA Lucas left the city for SF. He's repeatedly said he hates "corporate Hollywood" and wants nothing to do with it. And yet now the bulk of his legacy will be in LA.

blacktrojan3921 · #**9503** Posted **Sep 7, 2020, 10:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by Will O' Wisp

The whole story with the Lucas Museum is really interesting, Vanity Fair did a good article on it shortly after LA was finally selected.

George Lucas Strikes Back: Inside the Fight to Build the Lucas Museum

There's a deep irony about the museum coming to LA. Immediately after graduating UCLA Lucas left the city for SF. He's repeatedly said he hates "corporate Hollywood" and wants nothing to do with it. And yet now the bulk of his legacy will be in LA.

The museum, along with the Obama Presidential Center, is the reason why I really distrust groups like Friends of the Parks, since the museum was going to be on a parking lot.

a very long weekend · #**9504** Posted **Sep 8, 2020, 1:33 AM**

Obama did half his undergrad down at occidental college, maybe LA will get his library too. We can live in hope.

Quixote · #**9505** Posted **Sep 8, 2020, 3:03 AM**

https://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...s-grand-avenue

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Commentary: Frank Gehry unveils designs for two L.A. concert halls. But will they get built?

By Mark Swed
September 7, 2020

The Grand is rising. And L.A. is beginning to notice.

As the decades-delayed mixed-use facility designed by Frank Gehry begins to take towering, and possibly transformative, shape across the street from his Walt Disney Concert Hall, crucial missing pieces of that transformation are suddenly noticeable: two concert halls and a public plaza by Gehry that are keys to making Grand Avenue an arts arena like none other in America.

With fundraising for the Colburn School project stalled however, Gehry released to The Times images of his concert hall models for the first time. As the architect’s design demonstrates, the two halls could well make or break the promise of the $1-billion Grand. Its developer, Related Cos., is providing restaurants, shops, movie theaters, a hotel and an apartment tower. Closely relating the proposed Colburn halls to the Grand bestows on Related a heart and soul.

In the current rendition, the Colburn structure abuts the rear of the Grand on what is now a parking lot at Olive and Second streets. Gehry’s plan calls for a glass-enclosed, 1,100-seat concert hall on one end, plus a boxy 700-seat theater for dance, chamber opera and experimental performance work. A founders room and roof terrace could further serve as a facility for late-night cabaret and edgy work. A glassy lobby brings all the audiences together.

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LosAngelesSportsFan · #**9506** Posted **Sep 8, 2020, 5:28 AM**

Must be built! Paging Eli broad or Elon musk to donate a couple hundred mil

citywatch · #**9507** Posted **Sep 8, 2020, 5:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by Quixote

https://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...s-grand-avenue

With fundraising for the Colburn School project stalled however,

thanks for posting that.....I'd otherwise not have come across it for awhile....plus the latimes website is now, as many other sites are doing, getting stricter about non paid subscribers. Not to mention other sites like lacurbed going to that great computer in the sky. The days of easy money are coming to an end.

the colburn proj being put on the back burner is why the era of covid and post covid (1-2 yrs from now? sooner?) is going to sting.

this is from over a yr ago, which is why what's going on today....throughout the world....is extra sad. Some of these ppl won't see a more completed vision of bunker hill come to life, now slowed down even further by a national & global meltdown.

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the world will manage through this....but both financially & politically, areas like dtla...among others....may see some rough waters up ahead.

colemonkee · #**9508** Posted **Sep 8, 2020, 2:57 PM**

Oh man, that is awesome. Please build it. Not everything needs to be tall.

Quixote · #**9509** Posted **Sep 8, 2020, 3:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by citywatch

thanks for posting that.....I'd otherwise not have come across it for awhile....plus the latimes website is now, as many other sites are doing, getting stricter about non paid subscribers. Not to mention other sites like lacurbed going to that great computer in the sky. The days of easy money are coming to an end.

$1 for 8 weeks:

https://checkout2.latimes.com/MTRDig...xoCfHwQAvD_BwE

Just-In-Cali · #**9510** Posted **Sep 8, 2020, 5:20 PM**

Awesome catch! That would only make the "cultural center" of Bunker Hill more vibrant and complete. Plus would create quite the modern architectual corridor from the CalTRANs building up to the Broad and concert hall along 1st St.
I have hope...despite the usual dark clouds on here doom and glooming.

I mean...there are currently at least 4 high rises going up DT, plus massive civic projects. I think we'll be fine.

jd3189 · #**9511** Posted **Sep 8, 2020, 5:50 PM**

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Speaking of a new tallest in LA, where do you guys think it’ll rise and where would you like to see it rise? As for myself, I’m one of the few that still believe that the LA Grand Hotel Tower will happen and want it to happen. If it doesn’t come to fruition, I would like to have our next tallest at the NW corner of 6th and Hope. Imagine driving on the 101 south coming from Hollywood and seeing the tower sandwiched between the US Bank Tower and Wilshire Grand. That will be epic especially if it’s a 1300 footer topped with a spire right down the middle of the tower, unlike the Wilshire Grand. Or how about this, instead of a 1300’ skyscraper what if they can get it to 1781 feet? The year Los Angeles was founded. We could be the next city with the tallest skyscraper in the US. LA deserves something special. It feels good to dream lol. Besides, having the next tallest on 6th and Hope will certainly align our skyline since it sits right in the middle of the skyscrapers in DTLA.

That would be neat if LA gets a tallest comparable in height to those in NYC and Chicago. There’s no height restrictions for Downtown right?

citywatch · #**9512** Posted **Sep 8, 2020, 6:26 PM**

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That would be neat if LA gets a tallest comparable in height to those in NYC and Chicago. There’s no height restrictions for Downtown right?

yes, this forum is named 'skyscraperpage', so I get why ppl drop by here out of a great interest in tall bldgs. But a lot of cities throughout the world have plenty of those....shanghai, sao paulo, etc, anyone?.....so what's important to me is that LA focus more on bringing life to its hoods & cleaning them up. Tall bldgs won't necessarily do that. Moreover, mkt demand will determine how many & how tall dtla's projs will be.

as for the link in quixote's post, it appears that Gehry has done an end run around colburn? if so, & if his clients are still treating him as he described a few wks ago, what's that due to?

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Alas, the short-sighted hand-wringing has begun anew. Somewhere along the line, the Colburn School lost its moxie; fundraising appears somewhere between never begun and stopped for good. Gehry said the school is treating him like he doesn't exist and will not make public his models, which I saw a year ago.

ardecila · #**9513** Posted **Sep 9, 2020, 12:12 AM**

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Originally Posted by Will O' Wisp

There's a deep irony about the museum coming to LA. Immediately after graduating UCLA Lucas left the city for SF. He's repeatedly said he hates "corporate Hollywood" and wants nothing to do with it. And yet now the bulk of his legacy will be in LA.

Lucas demanded a site with spectacular natural beauty on the water, it didn't work in Chicago or SF so he ended up with his 3rd choice in LA.

The LA site is a great location in the city, but it's all the things Lucas didn't want in Chicago or SF... inland site, pretty urban, surrounded by other buildings and institutions, etc. Most people in Chicago were clear that they would love to have Lucas build his museum here away from the lakefront, but he refused to settle for anything except a site on the lakefront... he came in and asked for a piece of the city's crown jewels. Not surprising that he faced an uphill battle. It didn't help that the architecture resembled something out of a sci-fi movie, it undercut Lucas' claim that the museum's contents would be high art and NOT scifi/pop culture stuff.

So yeah, lots of irony here. But the building will be fantastic, I'm looking forward to visiting it once it opens.

LA21st · #**9514** Posted **Sep 9, 2020, 12:17 AM**

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Originally Posted by Just-In-Cali

Awesome catch! That would only make the "cultural center" of Bunker Hill more vibrant and complete. Plus would create quite the modern architectual corridor from the CalTRANs building up to the Broad and concert hall along 1st St.
I have hope...despite the usual dark clouds on here doom and glooming.

I mean...there are currently at least 4 high rises going up DT, plus massive civic projects. I think we'll be fine.

There's a good amount of highrises u/c in the neighborhoods right now too. Koreatown just broke ground on 38 story building out of nowhere.
More proposals coming. And of course, the gazillion 5-7 story buildings everywhere. LA will be fine.

ocman · #**9515** Posted **Sep 9, 2020, 2:00 PM**

Good looking design. Didn't know Colburn was planning a complete rebuild. It's a much better design than the residential/retail complex next door, which I have mixed feelings about and should have been given to a different architect for the sake of architectural diversity.

The red panels covering the exterior staircase? Not necessary. Would look better without it.

ocman · #**9516** Posted **Sep 9, 2020, 3:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Quixote

$1 for 8 weeks:

https://checkout2.latimes.com/MTRDig...xoCfHwQAvD_BwE

Use your library card for online access.

Zapatan · #**9517** Posted **Sep 15, 2020, 7:41 PM**

More on Angels Landing...

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...301130275.html

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Angels Landing Partners, LLC reaffirms its commitment to $2 billion Bunker Hill luxury hotel development to create more than 9,000 new jobs, expresses optimism about L.A.'s economic future

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LOS ANGELES, Sept. 14, 2020 /PRNewswire/ -- The principals of Angels Landing Partners, LLC today reaffirmed their commitment to move forward with Angels Landing, their $2 billion luxury hotel high-rise development in downtown Los Angeles. Angels Landing is a project of Angels Landing Partners, LLC, comprised of MacFarlane Partners, The Peebles Corporation and Claridge Properties, LLC. The project's environmental impact report (EIR) is presently being reviewed by L.A. City's land use and planning officials.

Steve8263 · #**9518** Posted **Sep 15, 2020, 7:51 PM**

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