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Old Posted Feb 25, 2024, 2:01 AM
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American transit agencies sure love to markings on the floor. Whether it's pointless striping like we see here, arrows at every single freaking door like the NY subway or "wheelchair parking" or "little old ladies here" they never miss an opportunity.

Love the look at that clean contrasting band floor in the Singapore train.
The US floors are fine.
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2024, 1:01 AM
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Can any regular riders report on how smooth (or not) the operations have been on the E and A lines now that they have had some time to adjust to the regional connector opening? Has there been much bunching/delays? Are the trains having any more success avoiding red lights with the signal timing changes?
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2024, 4:09 PM
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Can any regular riders report on how smooth (or not) the operations have been on the E and A lines now that they have had some time to adjust to the regional connector opening? Has there been much bunching/delays? Are the trains having any more success avoiding red lights with the signal timing changes?
Yeah I'd like to see some ridership stats as well. A google search didn't come up with anything.

Obviously, some users of the new stations walked to previous stations, so precise new ridership is impossible to determine, but there ought to be some overall improvement.
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2024, 7:14 PM
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Q4 2022 A Line average daily ridership: 32,512
Q4 2023 A Line average daily ridership: 59,329

Q4 2022 E Line average daily ridership: 28,266
Q4 2023 E Line average daily ridership: 40,006

Q4 2022 All rail lines average daily ridership: 174,488
Q4 2023 All rail lines average daily ridership: 184,765

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Old Posted Feb 28, 2024, 7:27 PM
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Q4 2022 A Line average daily ridership: 32,512
Q4 2023 A Line average daily ridership: 59,329

Q4 2022 E Line average daily ridership: 28,266
Q4 2023 E Line average daily ridership: 40,006

Q4 2022 All rail lines average daily ridership: 174,488
Q4 2023 All rail lines average daily ridership: 184,765

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I don't think the E and A line comparisons are apples to apples as they now include the former L line right?

I'm interested not just in ridership though, but also in how the operations are going in terms of bunching, delays at redlines, and on time arrival/performance.
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2024, 8:02 PM
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As SoCalKid and jmecklenborg alluded to, the L Line is now incorporated into the A and E Lines, and looking at the B Line, ridership has decreased as a result, which isn't too surprising since there's no longer a need to transfer to get between 7th St/Metro and Union Station. Of note, there is no data available for the D Line. But overall, I think it's safe to say there is a high degree of interface between these lines, so looking solely at single line ridership data makes it difficult to make any hard conclusions.

Q4 2022 B Line average daily ridership: 76,897
Q4 2023 B Line average daily ridership: 64,534

From a ridership perspective, it looks like overall there is increased ridership which is a positive sign.
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2024, 8:58 PM
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I don't think the E and A line comparisons are apples to apples as they now include the former L line right?
Right. The Q4 2023 average daily ridership captures the reconfigured lines.

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I'm interested not just in ridership though, but also in how the operations are going in terms of bunching, delays at redlines, and on time arrival/performance.
Cool. Please post whatever data you find.
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2024, 9:36 PM
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It's also hard to attribute ridership gains to the regional connector when ridership is still in post-pandemic recovery mode. Personally, I don't think the regional connector would generate much new ridership, since the new stations are all pretty close to previously existing stations. The real benefit to the RC is user experience related-- eliminating transfers, shortening trip times, etc. Of course, an enhanced user experience could drive greater ridership, but it's a bit more of a complicated equation than introducing new subway stops to areas that previously were not served by rail. The Purple Line extension should really generate some good ridership gains, I think.
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From LA Reddit, the view from one D Line train to another (through a telephoto lens):

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Old Posted Mar 5, 2024, 12:06 AM
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From LA Reddit, the view from one D Line train to another (through a telephoto lens):
Cool view, thanks for posting that! I think this line could really change LA in a way that no other rail line to date has. I don't think most Angelenos can even comprehend the convenience of a frequent, reliable ~25 minute ride from Westwood to DTLA...
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2024, 4:48 AM
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I don't think the regional connector would generate much new ridership, since the new stations are all pretty close to previously existing stations. The real benefit to the RC is user experience related-- eliminating transfers, shortening trip times, etc. Of course, an enhanced user experience could drive greater ridership
It's sort-of like trying to estimate how many riders are gained by building a second entrance to a deep subway station. One of the advantages of a cut-and-cover tunnel is the ease with which multiple entrances (or at least multiple exits) can be built.

I watched a documentary on the Moscow subway that illustrated that problem with a deep system - many of their stations only have one entrance, despite it having far higher daily ridership than NYC (which usually has multiple station entrances). They have people managing the crowds on the escalators full-time.
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2024, 5:07 PM
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Ambitious! There are even plans to close Wilshire Boulevard through MacArthur Park, which is how that park was originally!

And there'll be funding for that Hollywood Freeway Cap Park!



From Random Length News:

Major Boost for Los Angeles: Nearly $900 Million Funding Injection to Enhance Infrastructure and Metro System Ahead of 2028 Games

By Reporters Desk - March 12, 2024

LOS ANGELES — The Los Angeles region has secured nearly $900 million in funding to strengthen infrastructure, expand the Metro Rail system and reconnect communities ahead of the 2028 Olympic and Paralympic Games through a spending package signed into law by President Biden over the weekend and new grant funding from the Biden-Harris Administration.

LA Metro will receive $709.9 million from the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law and the Fiscal Year 2024 transportation spending law, which will go toward the East San Fernando Valley light rail transit project and sections two and three of the D Line (Purple) subway extension project. The Los Angeles region will also receive $160 million in new federal grant funding for street and transit infrastructure, traffic safety and to improve connections between neighborhoods. This includes $139 million that will directly improve transportation mobility access during the 2028 Olympic and Paralympic Games and create lasting enhancements for communities.

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Old Posted Mar 14, 2024, 11:42 AM
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Some of that infrastructure money should be used to buy the houses that will be over the tunnels for needed subway and heavy rail lines in the region. Then when the train lines are built the authority can sell the houses on the open market again.
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2024, 7:31 AM
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From LA Reddit, the new subway cars:

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