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baseball1992 · #**6521** Posted **Sep 6, 2014, 4:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by TallestPeePee

I keep noticing these towers being proposed and built in NYC with slightly lower rooftops than Sears Tower. Why can't New York, just for the sake of fun push it a little deeper into the sky and get a roof top height taller than the sears tower, at long last???

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...91095&page=122

Crawford · #**6522** Posted **Sep 6, 2014, 4:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by TallestPeePee

I keep noticing these towers being proposed and built in NYC with slightly lower rooftops than Sears Tower. Why can't New York, just for the sake of fun push it a little deeper into the sky and get a roof top height taller than the sears tower, at long last???

225 W57 is taller than the Willis Tower to roof.

And why would developers have this mindset? They aren't SSP skyscraper geeks. They want to make money. They'll build what makes the most financial sense. They aren't wasting time with nonsense arguments about "height to roof" vs "height to occupied floor" vs "height to spire" or whatever. These conversations aren't even part of the equation.

Perklol · #**6523** Posted **Sep 6, 2014, 5:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by Onn

Hard to say right now. 432 Park, Nordstorm Tower, and Tower Verre are probably all in the clear though, and Hudson Yards. Beyond that I don't know.

TallestPeePee · #**6524** Posted **Sep 6, 2014, 7:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by baseball1992

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...91095&page=122

But is it getting erected? What does it currently have a 50/50 chance?

TallestPeePee · #**6525** Posted **Sep 6, 2014, 7:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by Crawford

225 W57 is taller than the Willis Tower to roof.

But is it getting built?

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Originally Posted by Crawford

And why would developers have this mindset? They aren't SSP skyscraper geeks.

Well they should be! I mean they want to erect their structures into the sky this tall right? So why not have a fun mindset about it and declare NY the holder of the tallest rooftop building in North America once again? I don't think NY has had a tallest rooftop building since before I was born. And that would have been the twin towers till the Sears went up a year later.

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Originally Posted by Crawford

They want to make money. They'll build what makes the most financial sense.

I know but thats kinda boring. Plus there is financial incentive in erecting the tallest observation deck in North America. Wouldn't ya say? How much of The Sears towers revenue is due to its observation deck?

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Originally Posted by Crawford

They aren't wasting time with nonsense arguments about "height to roof" vs "height to occupied floor" vs "height to spire" or whatever. These conversations aren't even part of the equation.

Yes they are, they secretly want to erect the tallest structures. Even if they are not consciously aware of it.

King DenCity · #**6526** Posted **Sep 6, 2014, 11:52 PM**

Tallest pee pee you are a saint and must be rewarded. Well said. Now can we get some more eye candy?

Submariner · #**6527** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 12:37 AM**

I like my tower to have substantial girth...something to convey power and dominance.

Perklol · #**6528** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 1:43 AM**

432 almost T/O!

TallestPeePee · #**6529** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 3:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by Eveningsong

At least someone should have the decency to cover their perverted thinking of private parts

Yes, please do.

So, what is the current erectile height of this amazing structure?

Crawford · #**6530** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 3:58 AM**

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Originally Posted by TallestPeePee

But is it getting built?

The building isn't built yet. It's being built. The tower opens with Nordstrom at the base and condos on top in 2018.

I don't understand your question, as you asked which buildings will be taller to roof. "Will be" implies buildings in development, no?

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Originally Posted by TallestPeePee

Well they should be! I mean they want to erect their structures into the sky this tall right? So why not have a fun mindset about it and declare NY the holder of the tallest rooftop building in North America once again?

No. Developers don't care about "tallest building". It plays almost no role in their development plans.

Very, very few people care about things like this, and they're almost all here on SSP.

sw5710 · #**6531** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 6:36 AM**

The last core jump was to actual floor 81 or the apparent 86th window level. This is the 86th jump of 15' 6'' or 1333'

NYguy · #**6532** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 12:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by TallestPeePee

I keep noticing these towers being proposed and built in NYC with slightly lower rooftops than Sears Tower. Why can't New York, just for the sake of fun push it a little deeper
into the sky and get a roof top height taller than the sears tower, at long last???

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Originally Posted by TallestPeePee

Yes they are, they secretly want to erect the tallest structures. Even if they are not consciously aware of it.

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I know but thats kinda boring. Plus there is financial incentive in erecting the tallest observation deck in North America. Wouldn't ya say? How much of The Sears towers revenue
is due to its observation deck?

The Sears Tower observation deck is higher than the ESB deck, yet makes nowhere near the same amount of money.

Developers aren't concerned with tallest nonsense, unless its in the same city and there is competition. They build their products for one reason only, and that is to make money.
If it ends up being higher than other towers, so be it.

Tom Holub

stacy in wonderland

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Dac150 · #**6533** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 2:32 PM**

i purposely sit on the left side of the train so I can catch a glimpse of this tower coming down through the Bronx and across the river into Manhattan . . . it's absolutely dominant.

QUEENSNYMAN · #**6534** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 3:04 PM**

My latest video from today which also shows (OFF TOPIC FOR HERE) One World Trade:

By: QUEENSNY121:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b_j...ature=youtu.be

King DenCity · #**6535** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 4:59 PM**

Its so beautiful... :,)

Onn · #**6536** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 7:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dac150

i purposely sit on the left side of the train so I can catch a glimpse of this tower coming down through the Bronx and across the river into Manhattan . . . it's absolutely dominant.

A sign of a true skyscraper nerd.

Dac150 · #**6537** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 9:48 PM**

^^^ And proud of it.

TallestPeePee · #**6538** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 10:05 PM**

NYCguy:

Don't you think part of the reason the empire state makes more than the sears tower is that it is located in NYC rather than chicago? I mean don't get me wrong, chicago is a great city too, but New York is like everyones first destination when it comes to tourism.

How much did the original twin towers pull in annually compared to the empire state with its roof top observation deck?

NYguy · #**6539** Posted **Sep 8, 2014, 2:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by TallestPeePee

NYCguy:

Don't you think part of the reason the empire state makes more than the sears tower is that it is located in NYC rather than chicago?

I don't care where it's located. It was a response to your assertion that someone should build a higher observation deck. The deck at 30 Rock does well, it's not simply a matter of being the highest. Buildings will be built, some taller than others. And if there's any competition at all, it's within the city. Enough about that.

mdpNY

James Bond Agent 007 · #**6540** Posted **Sep 8, 2014, 6:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by mrjoanofarc

Y'know, I think supertalls like this could usher in a new era of Manhattan's skyline having "romantic" look, albeit very 21st Century-esque.

Like this, when you had a relative handful of somewhat scattered, really tall skyscrapers towering above a mish-mash of lower buildings. Except this time, everything will be 500' taller.