2013 50 States & DC GDP; Released Jun 11, 2014 - Page 5

creamcityleo79 · #81 Posted **Jun 19, 2014, 9:23 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by fflint

Fun food for though, indeed!

Below are a few more highrises, as defined by Emporis, for California. A lot of California's highrises are within SF and LA, but there are also a lot of highrises spread throughout smaller cities within the major metros:

Bay Area--
South San Francisco: 7
Santa Rosa: 5
Redwood City: 4
San Mateo: 4
Berkeley: 3
Concord: 3
Milpitas: 3
Palo Alto: 3
Stanford: 3
Campbell: 2
1 each in: Brisbane, Burlingame, Foster City, Hayward, Martinez, Mountain View, Vallejo

Southland--
Glendale: 21
Costa Mesa: 19
Santa Ana: 14
El Segundo: 13
Pasadena: 12
Beverly Hills: 11
Marina del Rey: 11
Orange: 9
Oxnard: 9
Culver City: 5
San Bernardino: 5
Huntington Beach: 4
Garden Grove: 4
Riverside: 4
Torrance: 3
Fullerton: 2
Inglewood: 2
Laguna Hills: 2
1 Each in: Gardena, Industry, Rancho Mirage, Ventura, West Covina

Other--
Bakersfield: 2
Eureka: 1
Modesto: 1
Monterey: 1
Redding: 1
Santa Barbara: 1

California total: 1,696

Don't forget Sacramento...44 high rises in the metro area.

The rest of the Central Valley is as follows (per Emporis):

Stockton - 5
Modesto - 1
Fresno - 17

fflint · #82 Posted **Jun 19, 2014, 9:53 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by creamcityleo79

Don't forget Sacramento...44 high rises in the metro area.

The rest of the Central Valley is as follows (per Emporis):

Stockton - 5
Modesto - 1
Fresno - 17

Sacramento and West Sacramento were already listed, as were Fresno and Stockton. I listed Modesto.

creamcityleo79 · #83 Posted **Jun 19, 2014, 10:03 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by fflint

Sacramento and West Sacramento were already listed, as were Fresno and Stockton. I listed Modesto.

Gotcha! I missed that one the first time around!

LosAngelesSportsFan · #84 Posted **Jun 19, 2014, 10:06 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by fflint

Fun food for though, indeed!

Below are a few more highrises, as defined by Emporis, for California. A lot of California's highrises are within SF and LA, but there are also a lot of highrises spread throughout smaller cities within the major metros:

Bay Area--
South San Francisco: 7
Santa Rosa: 5
Redwood City: 4
San Mateo: 4
Berkeley: 3
Concord: 3
Milpitas: 3
Palo Alto: 3
Stanford: 3
Campbell: 2
1 each in: Brisbane, Burlingame, Foster City, Hayward, Martinez, Mountain View, Vallejo

Southland--
Glendale: 21
Costa Mesa: 19
Santa Ana: 14
El Segundo: 13
Pasadena: 12
Beverly Hills: 11
Marina del Rey: 11
Orange: 9
Oxnard: 9
Culver City: 5
San Bernardino: 5
Huntington Beach: 4
Garden Grove: 4
Riverside: 4
Torrance: 3
Fullerton: 2
Inglewood: 2
Laguna Hills: 2
1 Each in: Gardena, Industry, Rancho Mirage, Ventura, West Covina

Other--
Bakersfield: 2
Eureka: 1
Modesto: 1
Monterey: 1
Redding: 1
Santa Barbara: 1

California total: 1,696

How about Burbank, Universal City, Brentwood and Santa Monica

spoonman · #85 Posted **Jun 19, 2014, 10:28 PM**

Outside San Diego proper

Coronado 12
National City 3
Chula Vista 3
Valley Center 2
Oceanside 1
Jamul 1

fflint · #86 Posted **Jun 19, 2014, 11:29 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by LosAngelesSportsFan

How about Burbank, Universal City, Brentwood and Santa Monica

Burbank and Santa Monica were already listed in the post to which I was responding. Brentwood is a neighborhood within LA city limits.

Universal City is a bit weird--according to Wikipedia, some 30% of it is within unincorporated LA county, while 70% of it is within LA city limits. Emporis doesn't list any highrises in the county portion, so the 10 Universal City Plaza must be included in the LA statistic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoonman

Outside San Diego proper

Coronado 12
National City 3
Chula Vista 3
Valley Center 2
Oceanside 1
Jamul 1

Thanks for the additional stats!

Also, let's not forget the big hotel tower at the Indian casino in Cabazon:

source

California: 1,718

mthd · #87 Posted **Jun 20, 2014, 4:11 AM**

I wonder why on earth emporis picked 12 stories. I'm not aware of any building code in America which defines a high rise as 12 stories.

It's generally 75 feet from grade or the fire-fighting elevation to the floor of the last occupied floor, as in New York and California. for a residential building, that means 8 stories is not a high rise, and 9 stories is. For an office building, more like 7 and 8. Chicago is 80 which might mean another floor or not, depending on the floor heights.

If some arbitrary number is going to be used, it should be linked to an arbitrary name, e.g. "tall building" or "tower." "high-rise" is a specific term used by building codes.

tech12 · #88 Posted **Jun 20, 2014, 6:08 AM**

It's not just emporis that makes up its own definition for "high rise". If you go over to SSC, they define high rises as being 300+ feet...as if a 299' building is a lowrise/midrise

dave8721 · #89 Posted **Jun 20, 2014, 2:42 PM**

One big thing I noticed from emporis' counts. You should be counting highrises + skyscrapers. They have them separately.

dave8721 · #90 Posted **Jun 20, 2014, 3:00 PM**

Again this is using highrises + skyscrapers from emporis.

This is just Miami's metro, not the rest of Florida. Unfiltered.
Miami: 519
Miami Beach: 172
Sunny Isles Beach: 74
Aventura: 87
Coral Gables: 59
Kendall: 16
Bal Harbour: 20
Bay Harbor Islands: 5
Boca Raton: 35
Coconut Creek: 2
Dania Beach: 6
Fort Lauderdale: 179
Delray beach: 5
Deerfield Beach: 1
Hallandale Beach: 42
Hollywood: 52
Hialeah: 3
Jupiter: 7
Juno Beach: 11
Key Biscayne: 21
Lauderdale by the Sea: 15
Miami Shores: 3
North bay Village: 20
North Miami: 16
North Miami Beach: 10
North Palm beach: 15
Palm Beach: 2
Plantation: 3
Riviera Beach: 41
Pompano Beach: 47
Sunrise: 4
Surfside: 18
Sweetwater: 1
West Palm Beach: 87

Total: 1492
With the rest of Florida included it will be well over 2000.

fflint · #91 Posted **Jun 20, 2014, 10:18 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave8721

One big thing I noticed from emporis' counts. You should be counting highrises + skyscrapers. They have them separately.

Drat, you're right!

I'll add completed skyscrapers from Emporis' list to our existing list of completed highrises in California cities--most don't have them, but this will indeed change the tally:

LA 523 (+93 skyscrapers)
SF 417 (+93 skyscrapers)
San Diego 154 (+37 skyscrapers)
Sacramento 38 (+16 skyscrapers)
San Jose 67
Stockton 5
Oakland 78 (+11 skyscrapers)
Long Beach 51 (+2 skyscrapers)
Fresno 17
Anaheim 17
Irvine 42
Santa Monica 31
Santa Clara 5
Newport Beach 10
Burbank 9 (+1 skyscraper)
Emeryville 8
West Hollywood 14 (+1 skyscraper)
West Sacramento 4
South San Francisco: 7
Santa Rosa: 5
Redwood City: 4
San Mateo: 4
Berkeley: 3
Concord: 3
Milpitas: 3
Palo Alto: 3
Stanford: 3
Campbell: 2
Glendale: 21 (+1 skyscraper)
Costa Mesa: 19
Santa Ana: 14 (+2 skyscrapers)
El Segundo: 13 (+1 skyscraper)
Pasadena: 12
Beverly Hills: 11
Marina del Rey: 11
Orange: 9
Oxnard: 9
Culver City: 5
San Bernardino: 5
Huntington Beach: 4
Garden Grove: 4
Riverside: 4
Torrance: 3
Fullerton: 2
Inglewood: 2
Laguna Hills: 2
Bakersfield: 2
1 Each in: Gardena, Industry, Rancho Mirage, Ventura, West Covina, Brisbane, Burlingame, Foster City, Hayward, Martinez, Mountain View, Vallejo, Eureka, Modesto, Monterey, Redding, Santa Barbara

And remember, I'm not counting highrises and skyscrapers under construction!

Skyscrapers and highrises in California: 1,975

creamcityleo79 · #92 Posted **Jun 21, 2014, 5:32 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by fflint

Drat, you're right!

I'll add completed skyscrapers from Emporis' list to our existing list of completed highrises in California cities--most don't have them, but this will indeed change the tally:

LA 523 (+93 skyscrapers)
SF 417 (+93 skyscrapers)
San Diego 154 (+37 skyscrapers)
Sacramento 38 (+16 skyscrapers)
San Jose 67
Stockton 5
Oakland 78 (+11 skyscrapers)
Long Beach 51 (+2 skyscrapers)
Fresno 17
Anaheim 17
Irvine 42
Santa Monica 31
Santa Clara 5
Newport Beach 10
Burbank 9 (+1 skyscraper)
Emeryville 8
West Hollywood 14 (+1 skyscraper)
West Sacramento 4
South San Francisco: 7
Santa Rosa: 5
Redwood City: 4
San Mateo: 4
Berkeley: 3
Concord: 3
Milpitas: 3
Palo Alto: 3
Stanford: 3
Campbell: 2
Glendale: 21 (+1 skyscraper)
Costa Mesa: 19
Santa Ana: 14 (+2 skyscrapers)
El Segundo: 13 (+1 skyscraper)
Pasadena: 12
Beverly Hills: 11
Marina del Rey: 11
Orange: 9
Oxnard: 9
Culver City: 5
San Bernardino: 5
Huntington Beach: 4
Garden Grove: 4
Riverside: 4
Torrance: 3
Fullerton: 2
Inglewood: 2
Laguna Hills: 2
Bakersfield: 2
1 Each in: Gardena, Industry, Rancho Mirage, Ventura, West Covina, Brisbane, Burlingame, Foster City, Hayward, Martinez, Mountain View, Vallejo, Eureka, Modesto, Monterey, Redding, Santa Barbara

And remember, I'm not counting highrises and skyscrapers under construction!

Skyscrapers and highrises in California: 1,975

+2 Salinas, CA

creamcityleo79 · #93 Posted **Jun 21, 2014, 5:52 PM**

According to Emporis, Chicago alone has 1,699 highrises and skyscrapers! If you just add the bigger cities in IL to that (Peoria, Rosemont, Evanston, Champaign,Springfield, Rockford, Moline, Aurora, and Joliet), you add an additional 100. There are other clusters around the Chicago Metro area and smaller cities around the state. So, you probably have ~2,000 in Illinois also. I'll do Ohio later. That seems like it could be up there as well with all the big, medium, and small cities there.

Joliet - 6
Aurora - 2
Evanston - 25
Rosemont - 7
Rockford - 17
Moline - 2
Peoria - 13
Springfield - 18
Champaign - 10

fflint · #94 Posted **Jun 21, 2014, 9:04 PM**

California: 1,977

chris08876 · #95 Posted **Jun 21, 2014, 9:58 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by fflint

California: 1,977

Awesome work fflint.

I know you said that doesn't count ones under construction but do those figures also include proposed?

fflint · #96 Posted **Jun 21, 2014, 10:11 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris08876

Awesome work fflint.

I know you said that doesn't count ones under construction but do those figures also include proposed?

No, I've only tallied Emporis' lists of completed highrises and skyscrapers.

spoonman · #97 Posted **Jun 23, 2014, 9:23 PM**

Originally Posted by fflint View Post
Drat, you're right!

I'll add completed skyscrapers from Emporis' list to our existing list of completed highrises in California cities--most don't have them, but this will indeed change the tally:

LA 523 (+93 skyscrapers)
SF 417 (+93 skyscrapers)
San Diego 154 (+37 skyscrapers)
Sacramento 38 (+16 skyscrapers)
San Jose 67
Stockton 5
Oakland 78 (+11 skyscrapers)
Long Beach 51 (+2 skyscrapers)
Fresno 17
Anaheim 17
Irvine 42
Santa Monica 31
Santa Clara 5
Newport Beach 10
Burbank 9 (+1 skyscraper)
Emeryville 8
West Hollywood 14 (+1 skyscraper)
West Sacramento 4
South San Francisco: 7
Santa Rosa: 5
Redwood City: 4
San Mateo: 4
Berkeley: 3
Concord: 3
Milpitas: 3
Palo Alto: 3
Stanford: 3
Campbell: 2
Glendale: 21 (+1 skyscraper)
Costa Mesa: 19
Santa Ana: 14 (+2 skyscrapers)
El Segundo: 13 (+1 skyscraper)
Pasadena: 12
Beverly Hills: 11
Marina del Rey: 11
Orange: 9
Oxnard: 9
Culver City: 5
San Bernardino: 5
Huntington Beach: 4
Garden Grove: 4
Riverside: 4
Torrance: 3
Fullerton: 2
Inglewood: 2
Laguna Hills: 2
Bakersfield: 2
1 Each in: Gardena, Industry, Rancho Mirage, Ventura, West Covina, Brisbane, Burlingame, Foster City, Hayward, Martinez, Mountain View, Vallejo, Eureka, Modesto, Monterey, Redding, Santa Barbara

And remember, I'm not counting highrises and skyscrapers under construction!

Skyscrapers and highrises in California: 1,975

Quote:

Originally Posted by creamcityleo79

+2 Salinas, CA

Forgot these too.

Coronado 12
National City 3
Chula Vista 3
Valley Center 2
Oceanside 1
Jamul 1

Just need 1 more to get to 2,000. That said, the Emporis numbers (for San Diego and probably other places) are somewhat dated.

urbanadvocate · #98 Posted **Jul 9, 2014, 11:21 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onn

California is in a league of its own, but Texas' GDP will undoubtedly catch up and probably surpass it with plenty of room left to run.

Problem with this quote is that the annual numerical amount that California grew is larger than what Texas grew meaning the differential has been growing not shrinking. Just saying.

urbanadvocate · #99 Posted **Jul 9, 2014, 11:31 PM**

I would be curious to know how the tourist industry in Texas has changed over the years. The impression is that it is starting to become more of a draw as the cities are growing and evolving. Anyone know any data on tourism impacts/changes in cities or state?