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Old Posted Aug 27, 2013, 2:22 PM
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The population of Germany, as released by the German statistical office this morning, was 80,523,746 on Jan. 1, 2013. In one year, the population of Germany increased by 195,846 people, which is +0.24% in one year. The increase is entirely due to immigration. In 2012, natural change (births minus deaths) was -196,038, and the net migration (people moving to Germany minus people leaving Germany) was +391,884, which resulted in a population growth of +195,846.

Negative natural change has been on a rising trend since the reunification of Germany. The most recent years here:
2006: -148,903
2007: -142,293
2008: -161,925
2009: -189,418
2010: -180,821
2011: -189,643
2012: -196,038

Germany hasn't experienced a birth surplus (positive natural change) since... 1971. Natural change is bound to become even more negative in the coming years, because more and more Germans are reaching old age, and fewer women are reaching child-bearing age.

As for immigration, Germany has registered a spectacular boom in immigration since 2010, although it remains to be seen whether these newly arrived immigrants will remain in Germany long-term. In 2012 and in 2011, net migration was able to offset entirely the birth deficit (i.e. the population of Germany experienced positive growth), which hadn't been the case since 2002.

Net migration:
2006: +22,791
2007: +43,284
2008: -55,743
2009: -12,782
2010: +127,677
2011: +279,330
2012: +391,884
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Here is a comparison between Germany and the other large EU countries (post-censal estimates). The UK has released only their mid-2012 population estimates.

Population on Jan. 1, 2013:
- Germany: 80,523,746
- France: 66,396,300
- UK: 63,705,030 (on July 1, 2012)
- Italy: 59,685,227
- Spain: 46,704,314

Absolute population growth in 2012:
- UK: +420,000 (natural change: +254,400; net migration: +165,600) (mid-2011 to mid-2012)
- France: +318,100 (natural change: +267,200; net migration: +51,000)
- Italy: +291,020 (natural change: -78,697; net migration: +369,717)
- Germany: +195,846 (natural change: -196,038; net migration: +391,884)
- Spain: -113,902 (natural change: +48,488; net migration: -162,390)

Relative population growth in 2012:
- UK: +0.66% (mid-2011 to mid-2012)
- Italy: +0.49%
- France: +0.48%
- Germany: +0.24%
- Spain: -0.24%
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The metropolitan areas of Poland, with their land areas and their populations in mid-2007. "tys. mieszk" means "thousand people".

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Here is the population growth of the largest German metro areas in 2012, based on the latest German population estimates published last Tuesday. I'm using Chrissib's definition of the German metro areas (see map below). I'll calculate the population growth for the smaller metro areas (in Eastern Germany in particular) if Chrissib provides the map with those (Dresden, Leipzig, Karlsruhe, etc.).



Population on Jan. 1, 2013:
- Rhine-Ruhr (10,820 km²/4,178 mi²): 11,165,197
- Berlin (17,389 km²/6,714 mi²): 4,951,687
- Rhine-Main (7,566 km²/2,921 mi²): 4,078,272
- Hamburg (7,304 km²/2,820 mi²): 3,152,229
- Stuttgart (3,654 km²/1,411 mi²): 2,647,134
- Munich (4,697 km²/1,813 mi²): 2,616,383

Surprising that the Stuttgart metro area is more populated than the Munich metro area. And in a smaller territory at that (in fact Stuttgart appears to have as many inhabitants as Warsaw in the same land area, which is slightly insane considering the status of both cities). The Berlin metro area was also downgraded to below 5 million people in light of the results of the 2011 census.

Absolute population growth in 2012:
- Berlin: +53,537 people
- Munich: +39,769
- Rhine-Main: +30,517
- Hamburg: +22,047
- Stuttgart: +20,270
- Rhine-Ruhr: +10,282

For comparison, the Paris metro area grew by 266,607 people between Jan. 2006 and Jan. 2010, i.e. +66,652 people per year. The Lyon metro area grew by 80,678 people between Jan. 2006 and Jan. 2010, i.e. +20,170 people per year. The Toulouse metro area grew by 62,533 people between Jan. 2006 and Jan. 2010, i.e. +15,633 people per year.

Relative population growth in 2012:
- Munich: +1.54%
- Berlin: +1.09%
- Stuttgart: +0.77%
- Rhine-Main: +0.75%
- Hamburg: +0.70%
Germany: +0.24%
- Rhine-Ruhr: +0.09%

Those are impressive population growth rates for Germany. In 2012, Munich grew almost as fast as the fastest growing French metro areas. Let's keep in mind, however, that these growth figures are just for one year, and not for a decennial period. One swallow doesn't make a summer. We'll have to see how these rates evolve in the coming years.

Another observation: the large German metro areas (except Rhine-Ruhr) have population growth rates far higher than Germany as a whole. This suggests brutal population decline in the rest of Germany outside of the big metro areas.
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The German statistical office has published the quarterly population figures of Germany as of April 1, 2013.

After population growth in 2011 and 2012 due to a large number of immigrant arrivals, Germany has experienced a surprising population decline in the first quarter of 2013 (newly-arrived immigrants already leaving Germany?). The population of Germany went from 80,523,746 on Jan. 1, 2013 to 80,511,321 on Apr. 1, 2013.
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After population growth in 2011 and 2012 due to a large number of immigrant arrivals, Germany has experienced a surprising population decline in the first quarter of 2013 (newly-arrived immigrants already leaving Germany?). The population of Germany went from 80,523,746 on Jan. 1, 2013 to 80,511,321 on Apr. 1, 2013.
Wait, I'm confused. I thought Germany had negative population growth for the last few years? Did they revise their numbers?

And that isn't really population decline. I though Germany had already lost a few million residents from its peak.

And how can they calculate population as of April 2013? Is it because you are required to register your residence with your town?
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Are you being serious right now?

It's true we're on a forum where threads like these get started when Germany is in its third year of a immigration boom, so anything is possible I guess...

On the other hand, this was posted just four posts up...
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=181...and you kinda are the self proclaimed expert on Germany on this forum, so...
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Adding Sweden to the list numbers are for the day before the other countries use (i.e 2012-12-31 instead of 2013-01-01)

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Here is a comparison between Germany and the other large EU countries (post-censal estimates). The UK has released only their mid-2012 population estimates.

Population on Jan. 1, 2013:
- Germany: 80,523,746
- France: 66,396,300
- UK: 63,705,030 (on July 1, 2012)
- Italy: 59,685,227
- Spain: 46,704,314
- Sweden: 9,555,893

Absolute population growth in 2012:
- UK: +420,000 (natural change: +254,400; net migration: +165,600) (mid-2011 to mid-2012)
- France: +318,100 (natural change: +267,200; net migration: +51,000)
- Italy: +291,020 (natural change: -78,697; net migration: +369,717)
- Germany: +195,846 (natural change: -196,038; net migration: +391,884)
- Sweden: +73,038 (natural change: +21,239; net migration: +51,312)
- Spain: -113,902 (natural change: +48,488; net migration: -162,390)

Relative population growth in 2012:
- Sweden: +0.76%
- UK: +0.66% (mid-2012 to mid-2012)
- Italy: +0.49%
- France: +0.48%
- Germany: +0.24%
- Spain: -0.24%
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Wait, I'm confused. I thought Germany had negative population growth for the last few years? Did they revise their numbers?
Germany grew only in 2011 and 2012, thanks to the arrival of lots of immigrants. By the 1st quarter of 2013, that population growth was apparently already over (not enough immigrants to compensate the surplus of deaths over births).
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And how can they calculate population as of April 2013?
It's population estimates.
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It's population estimates.
Aha, so not enumerated counts.

I was amazed that Germany could get an actual count so rapidly, but then thought it might be possible, because in Germany you have to register where you live, even immediately after moving to a new address.

It could be technically possible to "know" the German population in "real time" if those registries are linked on a federal level.
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Latest results from the French census. Here are the French communes (municipalities) which grew the most and shrunk the most between the 2006 and 2010 censuses.

Absolute population growth from Jan. 2006 to Jan. 2010:
- City of Paris: +62,462 inhabitants in total during those 4 years
- City of Lyon: +12,039
- City of Marseille: +11,683
- St Denis (northern inner suburb of Paris): +8,910
- Villeurbanne (inner suburb of Lyon): +8,677
- City of Bordeaux: +6,897
- St Denis (capital city of Réunion island): +6,708
- City of Montpellier: +5,717
- La Seyne-sur-Mer (suburb of Toulon): +5,314
- Villejuif (southern inner suburb of Paris): +4,919
- Saint-Pierre (the 2nd largest city of Réunion island): +4,748
- Choisy-le-Roi (a southern inner suburb of Paris): +4,707
- Saint-Laurent-du-Maroni (the 2nd largest city of French Guiana): +4,660
- Bussy-Saint-Georges (an eastern outer suburb of Paris): +4,569
- Le Plessis-Robinson (a southern inner suburb of Paris): +4,415
- Saint-Ouen (a northern inner suburb of Paris): +4,239
- Chelles (an eastern outer suburb of Paris): +4,163
- La Possession (on Réunion island): +4,131
- City of Toulouse: +4,087
- St Paul (the 3rd largest city of Réunion island): +4,055
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- Fort-de-France (the capital city of Martinique): -3,131
- Roubaix (a suburb of Lille): -3,239
- City of Brest (in Brittany): -3,245
- City of Toulon: -3,284
- City of Saint-Malo (in Brittany): -3,319
- City of Metz: -3,697
- City of Nice: -3,756
- City of Reims (in Champagne): -3,845
- City of Bourges (in Berry): -4,447
- City of Angers (in the Loire Valley): -4,766
- City of Saint-Étienne (in Rhône-Alpes): -6,220
- City of Le Havre (the seaport of Paris, in Normandy): -7,083

Relative population growth, for the communes with more than 10,000 inhabitants:
- Bussy-Saint-Georges (an eastern outer suburb of Paris): +24.3% (i.e. population in Jan. 2010 was 24.3% higher than in Jan. 2006)
- Le Plessis-Robinson (a southern inner suburb of Paris): +18.9%
- Le Bourget (a northern inner suburb of Paris): +16.9%
- La Possession (on Réunion island): +15.7%
- Bruz (a suburb of Rennes, in Brittany): +15.7%
- Agde (a city on the Mediterranean coast of Languedoc): +15.4%
- Bruges (a suburb of Bordeaux): +15.0%
- Matoury (a suburb of Cayenne, in French Guiana): +14.3%
- Saint-Laurent-du-Maroni (the 2nd largest city in French Guiana): +13.8%
- Savigny-le-Temple (a southern outer suburb of Paris): +13.8%
- Canet-en-Roussillon (a suburb of Perpignan, on the Mediterranean coast): +13.6%
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- Basse-Terre (the administrative capital of Guadeloupe): -7.2%
- Montargis (a city to the east of Orléans): -7.2%
- Lisieux (a city in Normandy): -7.3%
- Épinay-sous-Sénart (a southern outer suburb of Paris): -7.4%
- Saint-Amand-Montrond (a city in central France): -7.6%
- Vallauris (a suburb of Cannes): -7.7%
- Saint-Claude (a town in the Jura mountains): -7.7%
- Thiers (an industrial town in Auvergne): -7.7%
- Bayeux (a city in Normandy): -8.6%
- Sanary-sur-Mer (a suburb of Toulon): -8.8%
- Arcachon (a seaside resort on the Atlantic coast of Aquitaine, popular with old people): -9.7%
- Vitry-le-François (a town in Champagne): -11.3%

Now if we include all communes larger than 2,000 inhabitants, the "boomiest" communes between 2006 and 2010 were:
- Maripasoula (a commune up the Maroni River in French Guiana, on the border of Suriname): +88.0%
- Montévrain (an eastern outer suburb of Paris, just next to Dysneyland Paris): +66.6%
- Mondonville (a suburb of Toulouse, near the Airbus A380 plant): +57.5%
- Grand-Santi (a commune up the Maroni River in French Guiana, on the border of Suriname): +51.1%
- Chessy (the eastern outer suburb of Paris where Dysneyland Paris is located): +40.5%
- Hourtin (a seaside resort on the Atlantic coast of Aquitaine): +34.6%
- Aoste (a town located between Lyon and Savoy): +34.1%
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- City of Bourges (in Berry): -4,447
My native city is declining.
Not a surprise, it's been over 30 years that Bourges loses residents.
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- Épinay-sous-Sénart (a southern outer suburb of Paris): -7.4%
In my opinion this loss of inhabitants is due to the destruction of public housing blocs.
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Now that we have the final results from the 2011 UK census (and 2001-2011 intercensal estimates) and the 2010 French census, here is a comparison of population growth in the French and British metropolitan areas from 1990 to 2010.

I've used a 20-year period from 1990 to 2010 both because a longer period is more meaningful than a short one for demographic evolution (demographic evolution over a small number of years may be subject to short-term phenomenons of no consequence on the long term) and because the 1999 census in France underestimated the population of the French metro areas, whereas the 2010 and 1990 censuses were much more accurate, so 1990-2010 growth rates are much closer to the truth for the French metro areas, whereas 1999-2010 growth rates would be artificially distorted by the 1999 underestimates.

The French metro areas are those officially defined by the French statistical office. The British metro areas have been defined by the British forumer Jonesy55 based on his intimate knowledge of his country (there are no metro areas officially defined in the UK). I've selected all the British and French metro areas with more than half a million inhabitants in 2010.

The map below shows the 19 British and 17 French metro areas with more than 500,000 inhabitants used to calculate the growth figures here. I've also added the metro area of Geneva, which has more than 500,000 inhabitants and whose territory largely extends on French soil (only the French part of the Geneva metro area is colored in the map, but in the lists of figures below both the French and Swiss parts are included).



All growth figures have been calculated within constant 2010 borders (the borders of the metro areas shown on the map above), so these figures reflect purely demographic growth and not growth due to enlargement of the metro areas. First, absolute growth figures, then relative growth figures. Relative growth figures are more meaningful than absolute growth figures, because the absolute growth figures depend largely on the larger or smaller territories defined by Jonesy55 for the British metro areas (compare Manchester and Birmingham for instance).

Absolute population growth from 1990 to 2010:
- London: +1,763,500 (i.e. the London metro area, which follows the definition of Eurostat's London LUZ, had 1,763,500 more inhabitants in 2010 than in 1990)
- Paris: +1,203,803
- Toulouse: +341,096
- Lyon: +339,322
- Bordeaux: +191,573
- Geneva (French + Swiss parts): +190,298
- Marseille: +189,715
- Birmingham: +184,300
- Nantes: +167,494
- West Yorkshire (Leeds-Bradford): +158,300
- Rennes: +156,061
- Montpellier: +148,399
- Manchester: +132,800
- Nottingham-Derby: +124,000
- Bristol: +108,900

- Nice: +108,112
- Leicester: +102,500
- Southampton-Portsmouth: +101,300

- Strasbourg: +99,107
- Edinburgh : +85,384
- Avignon: +80,291
- Cardiff: +79,000
- Grenoble: +76,478
- Toulon: +75,214
- Lille: +58,911
- Bournemouth-Poole: +52,800
- Belfast: +47,889
- Humberside: +47,700
- South Yorkshire (Sheffield-Doncaster): +44,100

- Rouen: +35,925
- Stoke-on-Trent: +14,100
- Teeside: -300

- Saint-Etienne: -8,722
- Douai-Lens: -17,356

- Tyne and Wear (Newcastle): -25,100
- Glasgow: -42,149
- Liverpool: -62,400


Relative population growth, yearly average from 1990 to 2010:
- Toulouse: +1.63% (i.e. in the 20 years between 1990 and 2010, the Toulouse metro area grew on average by +1.63% every year, which is quite significant over such a long period of 20 years, because it means that in 2010 the Toulouse metro area had 38% more inhabitants than in 1990)
- Montpellier: +1.58%
- Geneva (French + Swiss parts): +1.33%
- Rennes: +1.33%
- Nantes: +1.07%
- Bordeaux: +0.93%
- Avignon: +0.86%
- Lyon: +0.85%
- London: +0.74%
- Strasbourg: +0.70%
- Toulon: +0.66%
- Leicester: +0.66%
- Grenoble: +0.61%
- Marseille: +0.59%
- Nice: +0.57%
- Bournemouth-Poole: +0.55%
- Edinburgh: +0.54%
- Bristol: +0.54%
FRANCE (whole country): +0.54%
- Southampton-Portsmouth: +0.54%

- Paris: +0.52%
UNITED KINGDOM (whole country): +0.46%
- Nottingham-Derby: +0.46%
- West Yorkshire (Leeds-Bradford): +0.37%
- Belfast: +0.33%
- Cardiff: +0.29%

- Rouen: +0.28%
- Humberside: +0.27%
- Lille: +0.26%
- Birmingham: +0.25%
- Manchester: +0.24%
- South Yorkshire (Sheffield-Doncaster): +0.17%
- Stoke-on-Trent: +0.12%
- Teeside: -0.00%

- Saint-Etienne: -0.08%
- Tyne and Wear (Newcastle): -0.11%
- Glasgow: -0.12%

- Douai-Lens: -0.16%

- Liverpool: -0.19%
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+ Madrid and Barcelona. For Barcelona the figures refer to the province of Barcelona. For Madrid the figures refer to the provinces of Madrid + Guadalajara + Toledo.

Absolute population growth from 1990 to 2010:
- London: +1,763,500 (i.e. the London metro area, which follows the definition of Eurostat's London LUZ, had 1,763,500 more inhabitants in 2010 than in 1990)
- Madrid: +1,751,027
- Paris: +1,203,803
- Barcelona: +832,865
- Toulouse: +341,096
- Lyon: +339,322
- Bordeaux: +191,573
- Geneva (French + Swiss parts): +190,298
- Marseille: +189,715
- Birmingham: +184,300
- Nantes: +167,494
- West Yorkshire (Leeds-Bradford): +158,300
- Rennes: +156,061
- Montpellier: +148,399
- Manchester: +132,800
- Nottingham-Derby: +124,000
- Bristol: +108,900

- Nice: +108,112
- Leicester: +102,500
- Southampton-Portsmouth: +101,300

- Strasbourg: +99,107
- Edinburgh : +85,384
- Avignon: +80,291
- Cardiff: +79,000
- Grenoble: +76,478
- Toulon: +75,214
- Lille: +58,911
- Bournemouth-Poole: +52,800
- Belfast: +47,889
- Humberside: +47,700
- South Yorkshire (Sheffield-Doncaster): +44,100

- Rouen: +35,925
- Stoke-on-Trent: +14,100
- Teeside: -300

- Saint-Etienne: -8,722
- Douai-Lens: -17,356

- Tyne and Wear (Newcastle): -25,100
- Glasgow: -42,149
- Liverpool: -62,400


Relative population growth, yearly average from 1990 to 2010:
- Toulouse: +1.63% (i.e. in the 20 years between 1990 and 2010, the Toulouse metro area grew on average by +1.63% every year, which is quite significant over such a long period of 20 years, because it means that in 2010 the Toulouse metro area had 38% more inhabitants than in 1990)
- Montpellier: +1.58%
- Madrid: +1.38%
- Geneva (French + Swiss parts): +1.33%
- Rennes: +1.33%
- Nantes: +1.07%
- Bordeaux: +0.93%
SPAIN (whole country): +0.90%
- Avignon: +0.86%
- Lyon: +0.85%
- Barcelona: +0.83%
- London: +0.74%
- Strasbourg: +0.70%
- Toulon: +0.66%
- Leicester: +0.66%
- Grenoble: +0.61%
- Marseille: +0.59%
- Nice: +0.57%
- Bournemouth-Poole: +0.55%
- Edinburgh: +0.54%
- Bristol: +0.54%
FRANCE (whole country): +0.54%
- Southampton-Portsmouth: +0.54%

- Paris: +0.52%
UNITED KINGDOM (whole country): +0.46%
- Nottingham-Derby: +0.46%
- West Yorkshire (Leeds-Bradford): +0.37%
- Belfast: +0.33%
- Cardiff: +0.29%

- Rouen: +0.28%
- Humberside: +0.27%
- Lille: +0.26%
- Birmingham: +0.25%
- Manchester: +0.24%
- South Yorkshire (Sheffield-Doncaster): +0.17%
- Stoke-on-Trent: +0.12%
- Teeside: -0.00%

- Saint-Etienne: -0.08%
- Tyne and Wear (Newcastle): -0.11%
- Glasgow: -0.12%

- Douai-Lens: -0.16%

- Liverpool: -0.19%
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Since 2008, both Madrid and Barcelona have collapsed.

Madrid (prov of Madrid + Guadalajara + Toledo):
2007: +2.77%
2008: +1.78%
2009: +0.84%
2010: +0.46%
2011: +0.53%
2012: -0.25%

Barcelona (prov of Barcelona):
2007: +1.71%
2008: +1.45%
2009: +0.42%
2010: +0.31%
2011: +0.23%
2012: -0.72%
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Absolute population growth from 1990 to 2010:
- London: +1,763,500 (i.e. the London metro area, which follows the definition of Eurostat's London LUZ, had 1,763,500 more inhabitants in 2010 than in 1990)
- Madrid: +1,751,027
- Paris: +1,203,803
- Barcelona: +832,865
- Stockholm: +412,671
- Toulouse: +341,096
- Lyon: +339,322
- Bordeaux: +191,573
- Geneva (French + Swiss parts): +190,298
- Marseille: +189,715
- Birmingham: +184,300
- Nantes: +167,494
- West Yorkshire (Leeds-Bradford): +158,300
- Rennes: +156,061
- Montpellier: +148,399
- Manchester: +132,800
- Nottingham-Derby: +124,000
- Bristol: +108,900

- Nice: +108,112
- Leicester: +102,500
- Southampton-Portsmouth: +101,300

- Strasbourg: +99,107
- Edinburgh : +85,384
- Avignon: +80,291
- Cardiff: +79,000
- Grenoble: +76,478
- Toulon: +75,214
- Lille: +58,911
- Bournemouth-Poole: +52,800
- Belfast: +47,889
- Humberside: +47,700
- South Yorkshire (Sheffield-Doncaster): +44,100

- Rouen: +35,925
- Stoke-on-Trent: +14,100
- Teeside: -300

- Saint-Etienne: -8,722
- Douai-Lens: -17,356

- Tyne and Wear (Newcastle): -25,100
- Glasgow: -42,149
- Liverpool: -62,400


Relative population growth, yearly average from 1990 to 2010:
- Toulouse: +1.63% (i.e. in the 20 years between 1990 and 2010, the Toulouse metro area grew on average by +1.63% every year, which is quite significant over such a long period of 20 years, because it means that in 2010 the Toulouse metro area had 38% more inhabitants than in 1990)
- Montpellier: +1.58%
- Madrid: +1.38%
- Geneva (French + Swiss parts): +1.33%
- Rennes: +1.33%
- Stockholm: +1.13%
- Nantes: +1.07%
- Bordeaux: +0.93%
SPAIN (whole country): +0.90%
- Avignon: +0.86%
- Lyon: +0.85%
- Barcelona: +0.83%
- London: +0.74%
- Strasbourg: +0.70%
- Toulon: +0.66%
- Leicester: +0.66%
- Grenoble: +0.61%
- Marseille: +0.59%
- Nice: +0.57%
- Bournemouth-Poole: +0.55%
- Edinburgh: +0.54%
- Bristol: +0.54%
FRANCE (whole country): +0.54%
- Southampton-Portsmouth: +0.54%

- Paris: +0.52%
UNITED KINGDOM (whole country): +0.46%
SWEDEN (whole country): +0.46%
- Nottingham-Derby: +0.46%
- West Yorkshire (Leeds-Bradford): +0.37%
- Belfast: +0.33%
- Cardiff: +0.29%

- Rouen: +0.28%
- Humberside: +0.27%
- Lille: +0.26%
- Birmingham: +0.25%
- Manchester: +0.24%
- South Yorkshire (Sheffield-Doncaster): +0.17%
- Stoke-on-Trent: +0.12%
- Teeside: -0.00%

- Saint-Etienne: -0.08%
- Tyne and Wear (Newcastle): -0.11%
- Glasgow: -0.12%

- Douai-Lens: -0.16%

- Liverpool: -0.19%
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Ha, yeah! that's well done, Swede.
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What does that figure refer to? Stockholm County?
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Yeah, that's for Stockholm's County. Back in 1990 there were 3 municipalities in the county that weren't in the official metro area, but since about 10 years it's all in the metro area. So the numbers I used for both 1990 and 2010 are for the whole county.
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I'm adding the other Scandinavian metro areas with more than 500,000 inhabitants. Note that for Stockholm, the figure is a little smaller than the one given by Swede, because the Swedish population figures are as of Dec. 31 of each year, so the correct figures that must be used to compare with France and Britain should be Dec. 31, 1989 and Dec. 31, 2009, which is what I've used (Stockholm grew much more in 2010 than in 1990, hence the slightly higher growth rate found by Swede).

For Sweden, the metro areas are those officially defined by the Swedish statistical office. For Oslo it is Oslo + 45 suburban municipalities. For Copenhagen it is Hovedstaden Region + 6 municipalities in Sjælland Region. For Helsinki it is Helsinki + 11 suburban municipalities.

Absolute population growth from 1990 to 2010:
- London: +1,763,500 (i.e. the London metro area, which follows the definition of Eurostat's London LUZ, had 1,763,500 more inhabitants in 2010 than in 1990)
- Madrid: +1,751,027
- Paris: +1,203,803
- Barcelona: +832,865
- Stockholm: +389,551
- Toulouse: +341,096
- Lyon: +339,322
- Oslo: +295,994
- Helsinki: +276,856

- Bordeaux: +191,573
- Geneva (French + Swiss parts): +190,298
- Marseille: +189,715
- Birmingham: +184,300
- Copenhagen: +172,642
- Nantes: +167,494
- West Yorkshire (Leeds-Bradford): +158,300
- Rennes: +156,061
- Montpellier: +148,399
- Göteborg: +146,179
- Manchester: +132,800
- Nottingham-Derby: +124,000
- Malmö: +123,224
- Bristol: +108,900

- Nice: +108,112
- Leicester: +102,500
- Southampton-Portsmouth: +101,300

- Strasbourg: +99,107
- Edinburgh : +85,384
- Avignon: +80,291
- Cardiff: +79,000
- Grenoble: +76,478
- Toulon: +75,214
- Lille: +58,911
- Bournemouth-Poole: +52,800
- Belfast: +47,889
- Humberside: +47,700
- South Yorkshire (Sheffield-Doncaster): +44,100

- Rouen: +35,925
- Stoke-on-Trent: +14,100
- Teeside: -300

- Saint-Etienne: -8,722
- Douai-Lens: -17,356

- Tyne and Wear (Newcastle): -25,100
- Glasgow: -42,149
- Liverpool: -62,400


Relative population growth, yearly average from 1990 to 2010:
- Toulouse: +1.63% (i.e. in the 20 years between 1990 and 2010, the Toulouse metro area grew on average by +1.63% every year, which is quite significant over such a long period of 20 years, because it means that in 2010 the Toulouse metro area had 38% more inhabitants than in 1990)
- Montpellier: +1.58%
- Madrid: +1.38%
- Geneva (French + Swiss parts): +1.33%
- Rennes: +1.33%
- Helsinki: +1.19%
- Oslo: +1.18%
- Stockholm: +1.08%
- Nantes: +1.07%
- Malmö: +1.06%
- Bordeaux: +0.93%
SPAIN (whole country): +0.90%
- Göteborg: +0.87%
- Avignon: +0.86%
- Lyon: +0.85%
- Barcelona: +0.83%
- London: +0.74%
- Strasbourg: +0.70%
NORWAY (whole country): +0.69%
- Toulon: +0.66%
- Leicester: +0.66%
- Grenoble: +0.61%
- Marseille: +0.59%
- Nice: +0.57%
- Bournemouth-Poole: +0.55%
- Edinburgh: +0.54%
- Bristol: +0.54%
FRANCE (whole country): +0.54%
- Southampton-Portsmouth: +0.54%

- Paris: +0.52%
- Copenhagen: +0.48%
UNITED KINGDOM (whole country): +0.46%
SWEDEN (whole country): +0.46%
- Nottingham-Derby: +0.46%
DENMARK (whole country): +0.38%
- West Yorkshire (Leeds-Bradford): +0.37%
FINLAND (whole country): +0.37%
- Belfast: +0.33%
- Cardiff: +0.29%

- Rouen: +0.28%
- Humberside: +0.27%
- Lille: +0.26%
- Birmingham: +0.25%
- Manchester: +0.24%
- South Yorkshire (Sheffield-Doncaster): +0.17%
- Stoke-on-Trent: +0.12%
- Teeside: -0.00%

- Saint-Etienne: -0.08%
- Tyne and Wear (Newcastle): -0.11%
- Glasgow: -0.12%

- Douai-Lens: -0.16%

- Liverpool: -0.19%
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