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[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by HossC

Its original name of the Blasdel Arms.

That's interesting, so obviously the sign in the back pre-dates the two side signs.
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While we're in the Rampart/Hoover/7th triangle, lets take a quick look at two side-by-side houses built 110 years ago in 1905!


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Of the two, this one has been especially tortured.


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This is actually a view of the back looking across Hoover Street from Leeward Ave.


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there are wonderful brackets beneath the eves....and a pair of rectangular attic windows.

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Here is the front view on Rampart. (equally tortured)


731 S. Rampart Blvd.

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a nice architectural element below this window.


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Here are the two 1905 houses together (viewed from Rampart).


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727 S. Rampart Blvd.


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[Tourmaline]

Originally Posted by FredH

I think this one is from the early 1960's or late 1950's:

Earl Witscher, Modernage Photo Servive Inc.

Down in the lower left hand corner, you will see our old friend, the Brew 102 plant squeezing the 101 Freeway into the train station.

Some 1954 retreads. Concrete Jungle versus small town with growing pains. Different perspectives.




1954 -

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/54959/rec/7






Breadsticks and garlic rolls?




















1954 - When Bunker still had a hill

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/54959/rec/7

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

usc archive

1954 - Paris Inn, amongst other signage.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/54959/rec/7

[ethereal_reality]

I believe the following two snapshot are from the R.H. Rood photo album (that is being sold in bits and pieces on eBay)

You remember Rood don't you? He's the guy that was Rudolph Valentino's chauffeur.(so he claims)



1924.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1924-LOS-ANGE...item2806850d10

"ROOMED" 3300 So. Figueroa Street

below: close-up of the Cedar Lodge Inn sign


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Can anyone make out the other writing on the sign? I believe the bottom line might be 'Special' something.


This would have been a block away from the John Marcellus Steward house built in 1871 (circled in red).


google earth

It looks like the Cedar Lodge Inn is long gone...so I thought I'd see if there were any cedar trees left in the area.


Well, the only tree(s) that resemble the tree(s) in the 1924 Rood photograph are actually across from the John Marcellus Stewart house on 31st street.


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Then I realized the house beneath the cedar looks very much like the Cedar Lodge Inn.


gsv

Just a coincidence? -perhaps. -or did Rood give the wrong address?
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The second photograph shows where R. H. Rood worked for one month.

1922

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1922-VAUGHN-S...item5b179dde25

Vaughn-Schuler Storage Battery Co., S. Figueroa & W. Jefferson Sts. L.A. Cal.


here's a close-up of the street number.

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3241 (?) Has anyone heard of the Vaughn-Schuler Co. before?



Here's the post where R.H. Rood first claimed to be Valentino's chauffeur (with a very interesting photo)
-there's also a photograph of him at the Los Angeles Ostrich Farm.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=29906


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[Tourmaline]

Is there an approximate period of service for these white on black signs? Were they used county-wide or per municipality? Any still in place?

Originally Posted by sopas ej

Wilshire and Bonnie Brae, 1937. From the USC archive.

By the 1920s, LA already had the most cars per capita than any other city on earth at the time. I'm sure it was scenes like this that led to the encouragement of the building of freeways. Reading through old LA traffic plan books from the 1950s at the LA Central Library, it's funny to know that back then, freeways were really seen as a salvation for many, as they would "forever free up traffic from surface streets and cut down travel times across the city."

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mj021QqMCD...0/IMG_6702.PNG




https://shard2.1stdibs.us.com/archiv...iCC_DM/2/X.jpg




http://caltrafficsigns.com/pictures/...l_099Arrow.jpg




http://caltrafficsigns.com/pictures/...0001/beach.jpg





http://caltrafficsigns.com/pictures/...normal_ECR.JPG




http://caltrafficsigns.com/pictures/...lywoodFwy3.jpg

[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

The second photograph shows where R. H. Rood worked for one month.


http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1922-VAUGHN-S...item5b179dde25

Vaughn-Schuler Storage Battery Co., S. Figueroa & W. Jefferson Sts. L.A. Cal.

Has anyone heard of the Vaughn-Schuler Co. before?

The Vaughn-Schuler Co appears in the City Directories between 1918 and 1923. It was run by Versal V Vaughn of 639 W 50th Street and Howard G Schuler of 4707 Cimarron, although Mr Schuler's entry in the 1918 CD lists him as a resident of Kansas City. The business address was 3241 S Figueroa, and by 1923 they had three staff listed.

I don't know what happened to Mr Vaughn, because the 1925 and 1926 CDs list just H G Schuler at 3241 S Figueroa, and by 1928 it's The Schuler Co at that address. It didn't last long - the 1929 CD lists an automobile dealer named Gail Vandenbraak & Co at 3241 S Figueroa.

[ethereal_reality]

Thanks for the information on Vaughn-Schuler Hoss. The seller dates the photograph as 1922...so your dates are spot on.
Were you able to find anything concerning the Cedar Lodge Inn?

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[ethereal_reality]

Here's another place I haven't heard of before.....Martinis Cafe' Opera.


eBay




Is this a mural? I'm trying to figure out what's depicted.

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A flamboyant art deco lighting fixture

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and a small cubistic 'chess' themed side mural

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I believe this was located in the La Fonda / Hayworth Theater Bldg.


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La Fonda is at 2501 and the Hayworth Theater, at the opposite end of the building, is at 2511*.




The building is quite large (and beautiful). Here's the view along Carondelet looking toward Wilshire.


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*side note:
When the Hayworth was the Vagabond Theater, it's address was 2509.


http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/1170

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[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Were you able to find anything concerning the Cedar Lodge Inn?

I drew a blank on the Cedar Lodge Inn, both in the CDs and Google. The closest I got was the Cedar Lodge Hotel at 2030 Childs in the mid-20s. The 1925 CD (LAPL doesn't have one for 1924) lists furnished rooms belonging to Mrs Mary Rousseau at 3300 S Figueroa. Maybe that's our place, but the Cedar Lodge Inn name never made the CDs.

[ethereal_reality]

I came across this a couple days ago on eBay.


eBay




This is where it used to stand.


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....but back in 2007 it was still there.


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You can see the extreme length of the building in this side-view.


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It was lost to the expansion of Wilshire Temple.


http://www.jewishjournal.com/cover_s...se_120_million
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I can't quite tell if the white building behind the temple is the Hobart-Wilshire, but I thought I'd post it anyway because of the over-sized 'tudor' house that's also visible.



Anyone know this 'tudor-style' house......GaylordWilshire?

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[Tourmaline]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I came across this on eBay a couple days ago.


eBay







....but back in 2007 it was still there.


gsv



You can see the extreme length of the building in this side-view.


gsv




I can't quite tell if the white building behind the temple is the Hobart-Wilshire, but I thought I'd post it anyway because the over-sized 'tudor' house that's also visible.



Anyone know this 'tudor-style' house......GaylordWilshire?

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Maybe not exactly what you want but the same neighborhood.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=29255

Originally Posted by BifRayRock

1932, Looking south on Hobart toward Wilshire.


























Dr. Ed Gordon, 600 S Hobart. Office at 542 S Broadway, Rm 604. Gordon's residence is described in 1920 Building permit as "tenement." Est. cost, $25,000. Residences became office space by 1947.

[ethereal_reality]

Thanks Tourmaline.

But where is the over-sized 'tudor-style' house in the above photos? I have to admit I'm confused.



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[Tourmaline]

The same thing crossed my mind.

To my untrained eyes, the "tudor" looks almost large enough to have filled two lots. Is there a date associated with your annotated pic? From the autos, it looks like mid '30s. The other photos are "allegedly" from 1932, and seem consistent with that date - but maybe - they are from a much later date. Short of reviewing any permits, the missing structure could have been replaced or even moved elsewhere. Seems very unlikely it was remodeled but I suppose anything is possible.

[ethereal_reality]

Tourmaline, the photograph I posted that shows the 'Tudor' house is dated 1939.

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re: Surprisingly, there's yet another image of Vaughn-Schuler Co.


eBay

Originally Posted by HossC

The Vaughn-Schuler Co appears in the City Directories between 1918 and 1923. It was run by Versal V Vaughn of 639 W 50th Street and Howard G Schuler of 4707 Cimarron, although Mr Schuler's entry in the 1918 CD lists him as a resident of Kansas City. The business address was 3241 S Figueroa, and by 1923 they had three staff listed.

I don't know what happened to Mr Vaughn, because the 1925 and 1926 CDs list just H G Schuler at 3241 S Figueroa, and by 1928 it's The Schuler Co at that address. It didn't last long - the 1929 CD lists an automobile dealer named Gail Vandenbraak & Co at 3241 S Figueroa.

Hoss, I just now came across this side view of the Vaughn-Schuler Co.


http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1922-VAUGHN-S...item28062ed0d3

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[Flyingwedge]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I came across this a couple days ago on eBay.


eBay


I can't quite tell if the white building behind the temple is the Hobart-Wilshire, but I thought I'd post it anyway because of the over-sized 'tudor' house that's also visible.



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The Hobart-Wilshire was built on the lot to the south of the tudor house, but it is not in er's red circle.
In er's photo of the Hobart-Wilshire at the top, please note the double chimney of the building next door.

This 1932 photo looks south on Hobart from above 6th Street. In the distance is one of those same double
chimneys (the building must have had them on both sides). Just north of that building is, I believe, a vacant lot
(There are more driveways/walkways from the street than there are houses). The gabled house, aka the tudor,
third down from the corner, is on the north side of the vacant lot:

USCDL -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...ll170/id/53876

This 1940 aerial looks NW at Wilshire and Harvard, with Hobart one block to the west. The rectangular roof north
of the Wilshire Blvd. Temple's dome is the temple's auditorium. I think one of those double chimneys is visible just
above the edge of the auditorium's roof. North of that appears to be a vacant lot, then the "tudor" house
with a palm tree in front. The building permit for the Hobart-Wilshire at 618 S. Hobart is dated September 26, 1940:

USCDL -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...ll170/id/20896

1921 Sanborn; the tudor house er was wondering about was 614 S. Hobart, and the building with the
double-double chimneys was 622:

LAPL

616 S. Hobart was moved to 637 S. Windsor in 1923 (don't bother looking for it there):

LADBS -- http://ladbsdoc.lacity.org/idispublic/

1950 Sanborn; the Hobart-Wilshire is 618 S. Hobart. The demo permit for 614 S. Hobart is dated January 20, 1959:

LAPL

In this 1961 photo looking NE at Wilshire and Hobart, we can see the Hobart-Wilshire next to the building with the
double-double chimneys. North of the Hobart-Wilshire, the site of the tudor house is now a parking lot, but the
palm tree in front is still there. The building on the other side of the parking lot is either new or remodeled (lost
the light well but gained windows on its south side):

USCDL -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...ll170/id/21930

[HossC]

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

The building on the other side of the parking lot is either new or remodeled (lost the light well but gained windows on its south side).

The images at Historic Aerials show the light well disappearing between 1952 (below left) and 1954 (below right).


Historic Aerials

It was probably a result of the building being changed from apartments to offices in 1954.


Online Building Records System

As Flyingwedge says, 614 S Hobart had gone by 1961. Historic Aerials has a 1964 image, but the 1972 image (below left) is virtually the same, and much clearer. The 1980 image (below right) shows an empty lot on the corner of 6th where the building that housed the dentist in the 1932 picture once stood.


Historic Aerials

The building that had its light well filled in 1954 was still there in 1994 (below left), but gone by 2003. I picked the 2004 image (below right) because it's clearer.


Historic Aerials

The corner site seems to have been a parking lot from sometime in the '70s until the end of 2014. For the image below, I've tried to get roughly the same viewpoint as the 1932 USC photo. Dated March 2015, it shows a new building up to five stories high that stretches along 6th between Harvard and Hobart. I'm assuming that this building is probably complete/nearly complete by now - does anyone know what it is or have any pictures?


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[MartinTurnbull]

I just found this one on LAPL - I don’t know when this aerial shot of Hancock Park was taken, but I’m guessing mid 1920s. I love that we can see nascent Hancock Park in the foreground, the city of Hollywood far off at the foot of the distant Hollywood hills, and in between is acres and acres of empty land studded with oil pumps. That S-bend near the bottom is 6th Street. These days if you take it heading west, you’ll end up at Park La Brea. How odd that 6th St appears to dead end at Highland.

[ethereal_reality]

HossC wrote:

"I'm assuming that this building is probably complete/nearly complete by now - does anyone know what it is or have any pictures."


posted by HossC



Hoss, I don't know if the building is finished, but I can tell you it's purpose.

It's the 'sports complex', complete with rooftop track. -and a parking garage.*


https://onegoodlife.wordpress.com/ta...-to-the-stars/

Now I'm curious above that proposed glassy structure next to the temple.
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*I just found this description of the 'sports complex'/parking garage. (it's much more than a sports complex)


http://www.harleyellisdevereaux.com/...ol_renovations

[Lwize]

Originally Posted by mjknight71

Hi all,

I have been searching for pictures of the corner of West Pico Blvd and Overlands from the 1950s. The site is currently occupied by the CitiBank that from what i can find was build in the early 1960s (1961-3).

I have search the LA library and emailed anyone who comes up on the internet who might have a clue where to look but with limited success.

One of the plots now taken by CitiBank in the 1951 phone book was a liquor store. The same address in a 1956 phone book is a florist (different to the one above), there only appears to be one business running at that area . The florist is still there in 1960.

Does anyone have any picture of the florist/liquor store from the 1950s or know where I could look for some?

I am in the UK so physical searches of documents are impossible

Just bumping this post from earlier in the month.
Does anyone have 1950's era images of the SE corner of Pico & Overland in WLA (10680 W Pico Bl).

Thanks.

[tovangar2]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Now I'm curious above that proposed glassy structure next to the temple.

I think that "proposed glassy structure" may be the new Rem Koolhaas-designed events center.

There's lots of info on the net:

New York Times

la.curbed

...many more via Google.

No images yet that I could find.

Interesting 2012 article on the background of the overall master plan for the Wilshire Boulevard Temple campus:

"They considered selling the [Wilshire Boulevard Temple] property, a concept [Senior Rabbi] Leder said he couldn’t stand for. “It would have become a Korean church,” he said. So to make the picture real, he’d take potential funders out around the immediate neighborhood to illustrate his point.
“We’d go to Fourth [Street] and New Hampshire [Avenue], and we’d get out across the street from a beautiful old synagogue that was Sinai Temple, and there’s a gigantic cross on the front of it, just above the Ten Commandments in Hebrew, and I’d just look at people, and I’d say: ‘That’s the other alternative; it’s very disturbing.’ ”

[HossC]

Thanks for the picture of the new building on W 6th, e_r.


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This Bank of America was at 2212 W Washington Boulevard, near the intersection with Western Avenue. For search purposes, this is Julius Shulman's "Job 1558: Bank of America (Los Angeles, Calif.),1953".



The building on the left was the Ebony Showcase Theatre. I couldn't find it in the 1956 CD, and the 1960 CD lists it at 4368 W Adams Boulevard.



Next to the bank is James Van Lines, a moving and storage company.



And here's a close-up of the Washington Hardware Company.



All from Getty Research Institute

Each corner of the intersection now has a small strip mall, and both the Bank of America and Ebony Showcase Theatre have gone. It's possible that the two-story building nearly opposite the bank has been cut down to a single story. I think this building is the old hardware store. Nowadays, I bet the local residents have to go miles to get their aircraft parts .


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