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[GaylordWilshire]

My take on Elvis's cars...

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Since you all did so well identifying the cars in the Hotel Cecil Parking Lot


I thought you might like to try your hand at identfying the vehicles parked at Elvis' rented home on Rocca Place.

'67-8-9 Eldorado; '71-ish Lincoln limo with its headlight doors open...or maybe a '67-8; '66-7 Toronado; '67 full-size Ford; '67-8 Imperial

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

2 '66-7 Buick intermediate wagons--same A body as the Olds variants, but different front ends and other sheet-metal differences (one is the glass-roof version, the other looks like the less-deluxe Special Deluxe version); two '64 Cadillac convertibles, maybe a dark third unless it's a '63; second from bottom is a '65 Pontiac hardtop, and, nearest, what looks like might be a '61 or '62 Caddy convertible.... And it looks like a '66 Caddy might be in the carport at left.

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

'65 Chrysler wagon; '56 Ford Customline; an MGA produced (late '50s-early '60s); '65 Chevy Impala; '60 Cadillac hardtop

[ethereal_reality]

Your cat seems to think differently.

[ethereal_reality]

re: Rocca Place rental home.
I thought it was a different house than the one that's there now. So thanks for proving me WRONG Noir Noir (with the permit) and CBD.

I can't tell who's right or wrong about the cars. As most of you know, I'm really really bad at identifying makes of cars.

That said...I do know the bus is a Vistaliner.


I like to outline things.



The front matches this one.


mabroelvisworld

I spy Priscilla.







below: "Elvis' tour bus leaves the estate 1174 Hillcrest - Beverly Hills."


mabroelvisworld


Not Rocca Place...but 1174 Hillcrest? Was that another rental?

(I believe Elvis owned, at point in time, two houses on Perugia Way) but I could be wong.





A glimpse inside Elvis' Vistaliner.


mabroelvisworld

Holy Shit!







Here's one more....thankfully it's in black and white.


mabroelvisworld

I'm not sure I'd sleep under that TV....especially on a bumpy road. It might come loose and...GOODBYE LEGS.


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[BillinGlendaleCA]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

re:
Not Rocca Place...but 1174 Hillcrest? Was that another rental?

(I believe Elvis owned, at point in time, two houses on Perugia Way) but I could be wong.

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The Beatles met Elvis at his house at 565 Perugia Way, so you're not wrong. Just checked the view from the elevator lobby in my dorm had when I was at UCLA, looked straight at that house.

[Bristolian]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

From the looks of this next pic, Elvis needed a parking attendant more than the Hotel Cecil.


elvispresleypedia

This photo of The Beatles visiting Elvis in Beverly Hills was recently posted on a site dedicated to '63/'64 Cadillacs I sometimes visit when I'm not here.
http://6364cadillac.ning.com/forum/t...age=1#comments

The Black '63 Caddy convertible could be one and the same.

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

And finally.....(here's the last one)

elvispresleypedia

What could be the same Caddy again and the house looks to be a match:
http://6364cadillac.ning.com/forum/t...age=1#comments

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by Bristolian

So many cars to identify here so I'll get it started with some in this photo. The two white convertibles in the middle, one with the top up and one with it down are 1964 Cadillacs. I'm pretty sure the black on black convertible is a 1963 Caddy. The two door second from the bottom looks to be a 1966 Buick Riviera.

That looks like the iconic GMC SceniCruiser bus.....from the 1950s...but its a knockoff Felxible vehicle known as the Vistaliner.

[ethereal_reality]

We have seen a large number of photographs of the 1938 flood on NLA over the years.

This album of 23 snapshots has recently turned up on Ebay.

The seller only gives us a sampling of five. If anyone recognizes the location(s) let us know.


#1

Ebay





#2

Ebay






#3

Ebay






#4

Ebay







Best for last.

#5

Ebay




Let's look at the last one a bit larger. (because it's pretty darn cool)


Ebay


Does anyone know where Swift's Red Steer Fertilizer plant was located?

(obviously the byproduct of Swift's meat packing plants)
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[GaylordWilshire]

Re photo #2:

Here's post 7288 from 2012....


Here it is today-- Garthwaite and W 43rd...





and re photo #4-- Kelly Pipe at left was at 525 N Mission Rd...

[HossC]

I think that the fertilizer plant is the large building at the center of this August 14, 1941 view, taken after the flood damage was repaired.


mil.library.ucsb.edu

The building is shown on the 1921 Baist map as Agricultural Chemical Works, which I assume got shortened to the A C W Fertilizers seen in e_r's picture. I can't find that company in the CDs, but Agricultural Chemical Works was originally listed at 905 Macy. Looking at Historic Aerials, the building survived into the '70s, and had quite possibly only just been demolished in the 1980 view.

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

This album of 23 snapshots has recently turned up on Ebay.

The seller only gives us a sampling of five.

The seller included 3- or 4-up views of many of the other photos if you scroll the thumbnails. Most show damage along the river, although one includes a sign for Grand Central Air Terminal.

[ethereal_reality]

Thanks for your help GaylordWilshre and HossC!
I don't know how I missed those other pics Hoss.

Neat ol' Grand Central Air Terminal sign.


I remember a black and white photograph of a low flying plane going over this road.

Does anyone else remember that photo...or is it a figment of my imagination?

[ethereal_reality]

...another flood pic that I missed the first time around.


This snapshot reminded me of a couple gifs I had come across several months ago.



giphy


I believe the person dangling from the moving crane is Buster Keaton.

from the silent film 'Seven Chances'(?)

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[ethereal_reality]

mystery object.

This postcard of Willard's was first posted [on NLA] over 8 years ago. (it was before we had honed our sleuthing abilities. )



What, pray-tel, is the structure in the distance that sort of looks like a pyramid missing its top.



Let's take a closer look.

If I'm not mistaken, we are looking south...and a tiny bit west. Correction: "we're looking north...and a tiny bit east." per GW

HERE'S A CLOSER LOOK.


Any ideas folks?










Update:

While searching for past posts and info. on the Los Feliz Willard's I happened upon this 2nd postcard.that might be new to NLA.

LOOKING EAST

Ebay


Amazingly, the Willard's building, later a Brown Derby, still stands on the southwest corner of Los Feliz and Hillhurst.


GSV

FROM THE SAME ANGLE FOR COMPARISON


GaylordWilshire first pointed this out HERE. GW also included a photograph of Willard's when it was a Brown Derby.



p.s. Don't forget about the mystery structure!

[HossC]

I can't see the truncated pyramid, but maybe this July 18, 1928 view will help someone else track it down. I've arrowed Willard's on the corner of Pico and Beverwil. Another view from September 14, 1937 shows a few more houses.


mil.library.ucsb.edu

Willard's is still listed at 9625 W Pico in the 1956 CD.

[GaylordWilshire]

Well, ER, since this is the Pico/Beverwill Willard's, we're looking north...and a tiny bit east.... But I can't give you an answer on the Mayan pyramid

[ethereal_reality]

I got confused.

[Noir_Noir]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

mystery object.

This postcard of Willard's was first posted [on NLA] over 8 years ago. (it was before we had honed our sleuthing abilities. )



What, pray-tel, is the structure in the distance that sort of looks like a pyramid missing its top.

The white house to the left of Willard's in the picture is still there at 1153 Beverwil Drive.


GSV



Here's an aerial from 1937 with new builds to the right since HossC's 1928 aerial.


mil.library.ucsb.edu


These were built circa 1930 - 33. Perhaps the picture quality plus the skewed angle of these houses to the camera is giving the odd shape in the original picture.

[ethereal_reality]

mystery gas station.


"Opening of Santa Claus display at station, Shell Oil Co., Southern California, 1930." (but it says 1929 on one of the giant books in the display)


USC DIGITAL ARCHIVES

If you look closely, along the left edge, you can see the name of the owners of the station.





DETAIL: Van Fleet & Durkee #176





I also spotted *pats self on back* a clue in the far distance.

Drum roll please.

DETAIL



USC didn't list Van Fleet, Durkee or Belmont...but they did list a ton of other details.



also


It looks like someone from Paramount designed the fantastic Christmas backdrop. (it's not really a backdrop...but you know what I mean)

I'm curious...what does [ilg] mean? (it's used numerous times in the 2nd paragraph)
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To see the other two photographs of the Christmas decorations go HERE.

[ethereal_reality]

OK, I'll go ahead and post this because it shows the 1929 book that I mentioned above. (so why did USC date the photographs 1930?) *shrugs*


usc digital archives

It's next to the giant Santa's chair.





FREE BALLOONS!

[Noir_Noir]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I'm curious...what does [ilg] mean? (it's used numerous times in the 2nd paragraph)

illegible

[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

mystery gas station.

"Opening of Santa Claus display at station, Shell Oil Co., Southern California, 1930." (but it says 1929 on one of the giant books in the display)


USC DIGITAL ARCHIVES

If you look closely, along the left edge, you can see the name of the owners of the station.

The Du Barry sign can be seen in the background, so I'm going to guess that we're looking at the Shell service station at 3325 Wilshire Boulevard (listed in the 1932 CD). That's the corner of Catalina.

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

OK, I'll go ahead and post this because it shows the 1929 book that I mentioned above. (so why did USC date the photographs 1930?) *shrugs*

Dick Whittington's envelopes (also part of the photoset) give the date very clearly as 1930.