NEW YORK | What do you think of the new WTC?

[ThatOneGuy]

Kanto now spends his days on Skyscrapercity trying to make the Ryugyong Hotel look bad.

The complex is good, but I never though reflective blue glass suited NYC well.

[jd3189]

Originally Posted by RCDC

OK here's my view and I won't say any more. The original WTC twin towers were iconic in the way the pyramids are. Pure geometry, and the 2 towers were clearly the focus. The detail of their surface treatment and whatnot wasn't as important (nicely done as it was). Their relation to each other was strong and what was the key. The other buildings receded into the background and were part of the urban fabric of the rest of lower Manhattan. You didn't even notice them.

The new complex? Well you have WTC1 which isn't bad, but the complex of other buildings competes with it. The group looks like a set of buildings that don't quite belong together yet still stand out from the rest of lower Manhattan.

Exactly. I doesn't get any clearer than this.

[Guiltyspark]

Originally Posted by ThatOneGuy

Kanto now spends his days on Skyscrapercity trying to make the Ryugyong Hotel look bad.

The complex is good, but I never though reflective blue glass suited NYC well.

Two things...

1. The Ryugyong Hotel makes the Ryugyong Hotel look bad.

2. The glass is not blue.

[ThatOneGuy]

^^ North Korea makes the Ryugyong look bad. End of story.

1WTC doesn't appear blue?

[MolsonExport]

Rebuild the Twins!
-TalB

[Roadcruiser1]

Originally Posted by ThatOneGuy

^^ North Korea makes the Ryugyong look bad. End of story.

1WTC doesn't appear blue?

It is the glass reflecting the sky. If I took my mirror up to the sky it would appear blue too.

[Guiltyspark]

Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1

It is the glass reflecting the sky. If I took my mirror up to the sky it would appear blue too.

Exactly. When NYC has a gray day it will reflect gray, not to mention beautiful oranges and yellows at sunrise and sunset.

[TheBigGeo08]

It's plain and hideous. New York has lost its architectural creativity. Also, good luck on demolishing more historic buildings for glass and concrete boxes. More power to the wrecking ball!!!

[ThatOneGuy]

Hmm...still looks blue to me

By that logic there are no blue glass towers in the world except for the ones tinted blue. As if that's necessary.

[Guiltyspark]

Originally Posted by ThatOneGuy

Hmm...still looks blue to me

By that logic there are no blue glass towers in the world except for the ones tinted blue. As if that's necessary.

Tinted blue glass = blue glass.

Reflective clear glass = reflects the color of the sky and surroundings. And it is not a matter of "by that logic" but physics.

[THE BIG APPLE]

A building with clear glass, but reflecting the sky is NOT a blue glass building, but IS a blue building. A building with blue glass IS a blue glass building and IS a blue building. See the difference. Either way the consensus states the NEW WTC is below expectations, and doesn't suit most parts of the skyline as well as the Twins did.

[Guiltyspark]

Originally Posted by THE BIG APPLE

A building with clear glass, but reflecting the sky is NOT a blue glass building, but IS a blue building. A building with blue glass IS a blue glass building and IS a blue building. See the difference. Either way the consensus states the NEW WTC is below expectations, and doesn't suit most parts of the skyline as well as the Twins did.

What you think does not equal a consensus.

[ThatOneGuy]

I count reflective buildings as blue buildings, as that is how they appear. They are not transparent, like the base glass of 4WTC.

Also, yeah. Too postmodernist for NYC's skyline. Still beautiful, though.

[marvelfannumber1]

Originally Posted by ThatOneGuy

I count reflective buildings as blue buildings, as that is how they appear. They are not transparent, like the base glass of 4WTC.

Also, yeah. Too postmodernist for NYC's skyline. Still beautiful, though.

Uhm actually it appears grey on cloudy days, and would appear red when the apokalypse happens. But whatevs...

[The_Architect]

The twins were universally hated too when they were first built.

[ThatOneGuy]

Anyone who dislikes the old WTC these days is just an anti box-er. The rest know how to appreciate all architecture.

[Guiltyspark]

Originally Posted by ThatOneGuy

Anyone who dislikes the old WTC these days is just an anti box-er. The rest know how to appreciate all architecture.

Thank you for providing us with such a good example of the hasty generalization fallacy. The shape of the old WTC was not what I did not care for, but the way the cladding was treated.

[ThatOneGuy]

Okay, 95% hated it for being boxy.

Why do you dislike the cladding?

[marvelfannumber1]

Originally Posted by ThatOneGuy

Anyone who dislikes the old WTC these days is just an anti box-er. The rest know how to appreciate all architecture.

ThatOneGuy - The master of generalizations

[ThatOneGuy]

^^ Pretty much anyone who dislikes the old WTC these dyas is just an anti box-er. The rest know how to appreciate all architecture.

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