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You can see the miniature railroad in this detail.


above: I've been trying to decipher the large letters that are strung across the plaza.
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It says "BOATING" in dark letters and "V I L L A C I T [Y]" in light letters. The latter being the tent complex next to the Grand Canal.
A clearer view of the hanging Villa City lettering. The word "BOATING" looks like it's a different typeface to e_r's original image. A picture of Villa City can be seen in a recent post by Flyingwedge. The picture also shows the miniature railroad.


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Old Posted Jun 2, 2014, 1:10 PM
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very nice HossC, thx.




Martin Cadillac (1970s?)

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12101 W. Olympic Blvd. today

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..the professional photographer did a really good job with the lighting...don't ya think.?
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Old Posted Jun 2, 2014, 1:34 PM
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La Fiesta de las flores, Los Angeles ~1901

Anyone recognize the background structure? Looks familiar. Probably posted before but I am unable to locate it.

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...XSSHIJ6PT4.jpg



No, I am not identifying the flower-power horseless carriage as a Locomobile.
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzQwWDU1NQ...2J!~~60_57.JPG

October '09

http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/imageser...l&ext=jpg&key=

Loco dealer at 1301 S. Hill




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Race drivers in goggles and dust jackets wait for the starting gun at Ascot Speedway. Ralph Hamlin is driving the Franklin Model H; "Greyhound" is printed on its hood. Original photo caption in Los Angeles Times reads: "Waiting for the starting gun in the twenty-four hour race at Ascot Park yesterday afternoon. In the trying day-and-night automobile grind. In the line they are: The Locomobile, Murray Page driving, with R. J. Leavitt, the heavyweight of the race, leaning anxiously over the hood; Bert Dingley, in Chalmers-Detroit "Bluebird;" Ralph Hamlin in Franklin "Greyhound," and Harry Lord in Studebaker".
1908 (Ascot Speedway?)
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics44/00071962.jpg


But how will it look with bedecked with flowers?
Seventeen year old Earle C. Anthony (Yes Packard-Reo Dealer (1000 S. Hope, etc. and broadcast pioneer) and his 1897 electrically powered carriage.
http://www.mychurchgrowth.com/blog/w...y-Electric.jpg

Whoa Nelly!
http://www.earlyamericanautomobiles..../autos3116.jpg


Earle C. had a residence at 666 S. Berendo. Not to be confused with his estate depicted elsewhere on NLA. A 1909 Greene & Greene design that was moved to 910 N. Bedford Dr., Bev H. GW provides coverage here: http://wilshireboulevardhouses.blogs...e-see-our.html Have we seen any panoramic views of this home situated on Berendo? Related, but not exactly: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=5827



A more mature Earle C in the mid '30's. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=19347
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Old Posted Jun 2, 2014, 2:55 PM
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Venice CA

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I found several pictures relating to Hal Shain at ancestry.com. The first is described as "Retouched photo of Halver Shain. Original photo from the collection of Diana Shain."


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An obituary of Halver Alonzo Shain from the Santa Cruz Evening News.


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Here's the entrance to the 'Daredevil Race for Life'.


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And a view of the track.


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I was hoping to find a larger version of this postcard. It's a colorized version of the first LAPL picture above, but the banner announcing the baseball game between the Chicago White Sox and the Venice Tigers has been removed.


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This picture of the track was also on eBay, but it was a distorted and washed out sepia image. I've done my best to make it clearer.


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Old Posted Jun 2, 2014, 3:56 PM
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Excellent additional information HossC.


I see the two buildings that appear in the background of my photo.




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When I came across this slide a few days ago on ebay, I thought I had found Anna May Wong's elusive tree.

1970s



...alas, I don't think it's the same tree...it isn't weepy enough.



Anna May and her tree.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13868

and here (great photograph)
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13876
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The tree pictured outside Li Po Restaurant was planted by the wife of attorney Y.C. Hong, whose offices were adjacent to this building. It was a Chinese elm, and is still there and still alive. This building IS adjacent to the East Gate, but is inside New Chinatown. That mural above the Li Po sign was painted by Tyrus Wong, still kicking at 103 years old!
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Old Posted Jun 2, 2014, 7:01 PM
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I see the two buildings that appear in the background of my photo.
Great eye, e_r. BTW, the building on the left is Abbot Kinney's St. Mark's Hotel (see picture below). According to an article on virtualvenice.info, "Ground was broken for St. Mark's Hotel on December 5,1904. It was one of Venice's original buildings. It was demolished in 1964." It looks like Venice lost a lot of Ocean Front Walk buildings around this time. The article also says that "The south side of Windward [Avenue] was not filled in with buildings until around 1915." Most of them have since been demolished.


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St. Mark's may have been replaced by part of the Venice Sidewalk Market (a load of shacks offering bike rentals, sunglasses etc.), but the building next door survives as Danny's Venice.


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Google Maps/Streetview lets you venture inside Danny's. That's allegedly the last original gondola bought by Abbot Kinney from the Venice Pavilion at the 1900 World's Fair hanging from the ceiling.


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Finally, I know most of us here at NLA like a tunnel, especially when they were used during prohibition. The following is from an article called 'Debunking Venice's Historic Myths' on www.westland.net:

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Venice has mysterious tunnels beneath Windward Avenue and they were used by rum runners during Prohibition.

When Venice was constructed in 1905, the business district utilities were placed underground in two tunnels running beneath the alleys on either side of Windward Avenue. The two tunnels originated at the heating plant and powerhouse located on Windward near the lagoon (current site of the B of A building near the traffic circle). In addition, some hotels along Ocean Front Walk constructed tunnels beneath the promenade to the beach because an ordinance forbid bathing suits on the boardwalk. The St. Marks Hotel at the corner of Windward was one. During Prohibition in the 20's, rum runners would unload their booze from boats beneath the pier and sneak them into the St. Mark's tunnel. I assume they could then access the utility tunnel directly behind the hotel, but it is a mystery how they transported the booze to speakeasies on the other side of the street. There is no evidence of linked tunnels beneath Windward Avenue, although they may have followed the tunnel to the powerhouse, then transferred to the other tunnel.
Does anyone know if these tunnels still exist?
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LA Ox Cart at Fourth and Broadway

"King Grover III, a political burlesque comedy. In the background is the Broadway Department Store as well as an advertisement for Dayton bicycles."

~1896
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The Boyle-Dayton Company produced gas pumps and tanks. 51 Street and Santa Fe Ave. (Vernon) http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...00005/00000001



Pay no attention to the photographer's shadow.

1929
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...SU2QJU48QS.jpg

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/AN1113...d=101713190806

http://4cornersphoto.com/wordpress/w...0700_thumb.jpg
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Hello all.

I own a website whose purpose is to find filming locations from past and present movies. I am currently working on finding locations for Stanley Kubrick's 1956 movie The Killing. This film features a few shots from vintage L.A.. I was wondering if someone on here could help me locate specific places.

Business #1 - Culligan Soft Water Service



Hint: Address is 1309.

Business #2 - Money To Loan pawn shop at 831???




The second picture is basically the camera looking right. I couldn't find anything about any "Herman's Cafe" in the L.A. area. There seems to be a theater to the right, but which one? Hard to tell.

I suspect this would be around downtown L.A.

Thanks for any help provided.
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The Culligan building was at 1307-09 West 39th Street. The building is still there...


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It's basically unrecognizable; really the only clue is what appears to be a vent at the upper left of the façade:

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The Boyle-Dayton Company produced gas pumps and tanks. 51 Street and Santa Fe Ave. (Vernon) http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...00005/00000001



Pay no attention to the photographer's shadow.

1929
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...SU2QJU48QS.jpg

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/AN1113...d=101713190806

http://4cornersphoto.com/wordpress/w...0700_thumb.jpg
The 1929 photo of the Boyle Dayton plant was more than likely taken before 1929 as in 1928 the company was purchased by the Wayne pump Company and production was subsequently moved to Wayne, Indiana. Boyle Dayton visible pumps are now quite the collector's item with one in good condition or restored often selling to collectors for between $8,000 to $12,000. Certain models associated with specific retail gasoline brands can bring greater amounts. There is such a demand for these old pumps that reproduction repair parts are readily available.
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The 1929 photo of the Boyle Dayton plant was more than likely taken before 1929 as in 1928 the company was purchased by the Wayne pump Company and production was subsequently moved to Wayne, Indiana. Boyle Dayton visible pumps are now quite the collector's item with one in good condition or restored often selling to collectors for between $8,000 to $12,000. Certain models associated with specific retail gasoline brands can bring greater amounts. There is such a demand for these old pumps that reproduction repair parts are readily available.
Date derived from source. Boyle-Dayton is listed in '29 city directory, so maybe there was some lag time during transition?
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Myth v Reality?


1923
http://imageshack.us/a/img18/470/sth...ead1923tom.jpg



The horse in the Mix three-reeler looks mighty small considering some of the other photos of the Cut. Whatever it's size, jumping even a smaller gap was probably no small feat!
Interesting article suggests Beale's Cut's depth has varied over the years from '30 (1854) to '90 feet, and in the words of the author (below), "the still photo was doctored." Having never visited the famous cut, I can't say what reaction I might have, disappointment, awe or a little of both.


http://www.scvhistory.com/scvhistory...n/lw040997.htm





1872
http://www.scvhistory.com/gif/ap2307.jpg



1903
http://www.scvhistory.com/gif/en0100a.jpg


1909
http://www.scvhistory.com/gif/ap0107.jpg



1910
http://www.scvhistory.com/gif/hr1001.jpg




1910
http://www.scvhistory.com/gif/ap1915.jpg



1925 - Buster Keaton in "Seven Chances."
http://www.scvhistory.com/gif/pa2501.jpg



1939 - Ford's Stagecoach


1950's postcard
http://www.scvhistory.com/gif/cu1951.jpg


Source describes below image as "In Freemont Pass, 26 miles from Los Angeles." http://catalog.library.ca.gov/F/YKRP...003&format=999 Could this be an entrance or exit leading to or from what is also known as the Newhall Cut?

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...YMPRTCIES1.jpg
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Date derived from source. Boyle-Dayton is listed in '29 city directory, so maybe there was some lag time during transition?
City directories were done by house-to-house (and business-to-business) polling, much like the census. Much of it for 1929 could have been done during the previous year.


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The 1929 photo of the Boyle Dayton plant was more than likely taken before 1929 as in 1928 the company was purchased by the Wayne pump Company and production was subsequently moved to Wayne, Indiana.

For however long, production appears to have continued in Los Angeles.


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Hello all.

I own a website whose purpose is to find filming locations from past and present movies. I am currently working on finding locations for Stanley Kubrick's 1956 movie The Killing. This film features a few shots from vintage L.A.. I was wondering if someone on here could help me locate specific places.


Business #2 - Money To Loan pawn shop at 831???




The second picture is basically the camera looking right. I couldn't find anything about any "Herman's Cafe" in the L.A. area. There seems to be a theater to the right, but which one? Hard to tell.

I suspect this would be around downtown L.A.

Thanks for any help provided.
You're quite welcome! That's the 800 block of West Third, the other side of Bunker Hill from downtown. The theater next door is the Lux.

lapl

Here's a later shot -- 6/65 -- with, sadly, the 831 "Money to Loan" building already demo'd. This is about mid-way between Figueroa and Flower.

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While The Killing made it into Jim Dawson's excellent book on Bunker noir (The Mission Apts, etc.) I don't believe this location did, which is a shame. Second edition!
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I've been getting all worked up lately about Robert Brown Young -- best known for his large hotels and business blocks like the Lankershim and Wilson and Westminster and Hollenbeck, etc.

But as a Bunker wonk, I was thrilled to find he was the architect of the Argyle (I knew from another source the Antlers on Fourth south of Olive was his). RBY is also the architect of the slidy Highland Villa.

From the book on RBY by Le Berthon, 1905:



huntington

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I was just happy to find a good image of the Argyle with its original porches and tower, before their loss to the widening of 2nd St, so I thought it fitting to share it here!
Amazing picture of the Argyle before 2nd was widened. Never knew it had those gingerbready porches along the south elevation either.

I'm interested in Young's work too. Beaudry, I'm sure you're already familiar with the Alphonse J. Forget House he designed at 1026 S. Bonnie Brae Street, but since I have my own photo I thought I'd share anyway:

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And a very similar house he designed which sits around the corner at 1851 W. 11th Street:

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I'm interested in Young's work too. Beaudry, I'm sure you're already familiar with the Alphonse J. Forget House he designed at 1026 S. Bonnie Brae Street, but since I have my own photo I thought I'd share anyway:

my photo
Glad there's another fan! My buddy Richard does the Broadway on My Mind walking tours, and last Sunday I joined him for an RB Young-themed jaunt where we took folk to the Carr and Barker Bros, and there'll be another one the end of this month too, where we go the other way up Broadway. They're free, come on by!

We're also in the starting processes of blogging the works of RBY -- when we get the first post up, Noirish will be the first to know...
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After having posted this the other day, I feel the need to write a proper post-mortem for my late, beloved California State Building.

mine

Fearing that the Art Deco chandeliers and fixtures would remain entombed forever, I donned my pith helmet and set forth for First and Broadway. At least I could get some of the broken-up marble from the floor!

I had a pretty cool adventure, as Sunday trespassings go (It's kind of my version of church) but it didn't yield me those results.

Apparently the marble from the lobby was the first thing ripped up and was beneath Mount Rubble --



One could still make out the outline of the building...



And here next to Hill St are the remnants of the entry-steps, and that small window to the right I like to imagine is emits light into the aforementioned basement. Which appears to be less full art deco sconces than it is of concrete discard.



Along the back, toward Temple, one can still make out the entrance to the parking garages...which runs down to this nifty little survivor.



Here are the entrances to the underground parking, covered over with concrete pieces and other detritus to keep the locals out and CHUD in.



This is what it looks like inside; note the SOUND HORN sign at the curve. I was tempted to crawl in and explore but no-one knew I was there and if anything happened it would have been a long night.



Do any y'all know what's going into this area? Someone told me the site is to be an extension of Grand Park. But below is some of the excavation work. That kind of pit is for a great big building, not for sod. Which is sad, because I've always enjoyed the uninterrupted sight-vista in front of City Hall from Hill St. Seems they're looking to erect some (unquestionably inferior) structure directly across from City Hall. Sad.



Anyway, I won't take up any more of your time with non-vintage photos of LA. I will say this, though, being at a demo site under the watchful eye of City Hall sort of "took me back" (to a time I'd never been) as it was eerily reminiscent of when we experienced...The Difficulties.


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