noirish Los Angeles

[DViator]

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

I don't understand how this new construction house ever got approved by the city. Although I like its form and style, its nothing harmonious with even one of the nearby homes in that area. I admire this modern design but its wildly visually jarring in this neighborhood.

I agree, I'm a big fan of both mid-century modern and some of whatever they decide to call the latest version of it, but if it destroys the fabric of a neighborhood it's hard to look at it objectively.

[BifRayRock]

More Venice part II



Culver City, City of Certainty?

Lorelei Avenue (18th Avenue(?) Could this have been a western view of what is now Pacific Avenue (Trolleyway) and 18th Ave. (Lorelei Avenue) toward Speedway? The original structures appear to have disappeared but the paving stones on 18th Ave may be a clue.



The Mallet Apartments, 22 Lorelei Avenue. American Transfer was at 26 Lorelei Avenue
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...coll2/id/14733












Brooklyn West? El Segundo, the Standard Oil Payroll City Office here?






Curious Mile Post

[BifRayRock]

More Venice Part III




Aztec Apartments, 511 Ocean front Walk ~1929 (per source)
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...coll2/id/20108




Beach Apartments, 39 Sunset Ave, ~1929 (per source)
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...coll2/id/20111







Dorothy Apartments, 615 Ocean Front Walk ~1929

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...coll2/id/20117







The Drexel Apartments, 1922 Trolleyway (now Pacific Ave.)

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...coll2/id/20120














The former Drexel, 1922 Pacific Ave., circa 2011
GoogleSVU






Montezuma Apartments. 401 Ocean Front Walk
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...coll2/id/20129








Rohampton Apartments, 40 Westminster Ave
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...coll2/id/20132



40 Westminster Ave, circa 2014
GSV

[BifRayRock]

More Venice Part IV





Hotel Waldorf, Oceanfront at Westminster Avenue. On the boardwalk . . . of Venice City . . . ~1915

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...coll2/id/19979


Circa 2008
GoogleSVU





Kemper Apartments, Looking north toward Santa Monica ~1927 (per source)
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...coll2/id/20009







1305 Oceanfront, circa 2008
GoogleSVU

[Flyingwedge]

Originally Posted by tovangar2

Monterey Road and Fair Oaks Blvd, South Pasadena:

google

After one gets back from the commercial strip there are many very pretty blocks of homes in all directions. I checked out some closest to the intersection, but could not find the Rust home. The Rust place is described as a "ranch" in what I've read, so it's not going to be a house on an ordinary lot. Also read that his family ran the nursery he started for 60 years.

1906 South Pasadena City Directory:






Ancestry.com


Both 1224 and 1303 Lyndon appear to have been torn down. Bank Street is the next street south of Lyndon. Here's a map.


H. N. Rust residence:



SCWHR-P-002.2-2124R at Seaver Center


Veranda at H. N. Rust residence (this appears to be the same side of the house as the above photo):



SCWHR-P-002.2-2506R at Seaver Center


There are other big Rust rose bush pictures at Seaver you can easily search for, but they don't show the house.

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by DViator

I agree, I'm a big fan of both mid-century modern and some of whatever they decide to call the latest version of it, but if it destroys the fabric of a neighborhood it's hard to look at it objectively.

Thanks DViator.....you see my point. I bet the neighbors are very concerned about the value of their homes with this strange new build.

Neighborhood zoning ordinances are always concerned about such things as the color of houses in a district. But even more so when it comes to the actual design.

Try painting your house bright fire-engine red and see what happens.

In my neighborhood I've seen 4 houses being repainted immediately because people did not paint their house a compatible color [many nearby residents complained]. People go to the paint store and look at a postage stamp size color sample and get all confused. Then they buy 10 gallons of some horrid color.

[ethereal_reality]

re: Long Beach pic from etsy

Thanks for the follow-ups Hoss and t2.

Here's a rather sweet one.

ebay

A mother with her young son, Long Beach 1940s(?)
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[Rustifer]

I have nothing pithy or witty to add here, my desire is only to get my number of posts to a round but fairly pitiful '30'. I am nowhere near where you veterans of this thread have achieved--thousands of posts over many years' time--nor will I ever be as my interests lay narrowly on 77 Sunset Strip memorabilia. But I have long enjoyed scrolling through the old photos and commentary by the many fine participants on this site. I'm in awe of your LA fervor and expertise!

I'm especially drawn to articles and pics from the 50's LA, as that's where I'd most like to be transported if the power could be granted. City of Stars, are you shining down on me...?

Anyway, I'll keep plugging along here with my occasional Bailey & Spenser tidbits and continue my enjoyment of the massive LA noirish nostalgia collected here.

[HossC]

More survivors in Venice?

Originally Posted by BifRayRock

Aztec Apartments, 511 Ocean front Walk ~1929 (per source)
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...coll2/id/20108

I think that the Aztec Apartments building is still standing in modified form. The image below is from 2008 - it has since been repainted.


GSV

There's a virtual mirror image of the building which fronts onto Speedway. It has been similarly modified - the image below shows the current color.


GSV

Originally Posted by BifRayRock

Beach Apartments, 39 Sunset Ave, ~1929 (per source)
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...coll2/id/20111

A stone's throw away, I think this is the Beach Apartments building (the large white one). The windows are different, but the overall size and shape is the same, as is the slightly angled front. The Googlemobile doesn't go down Sunset Avenue, so here's an aerial.


Google Maps via supercharge.info

Originally Posted by BifRayRock

Dorothy Apartments, 615 Ocean Front Walk ~1929

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...coll2/id/20117

This could be the Dorothy Apartments. If it is, the building has lost all of its decorations, but it has an old apartment shape and feel about it.


GSV

[tovangar2]

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

SCWHR-P-002.2-2506R at Seaver Center

Detail:


I was aghast to see the looted items stacked against the house, but, in the interest of fairness, I add the apologia below:




pacific coast archaeological quarterly,vol 41, #1
http://www.pcas.org/assets/documents...tweb-2_000.pdf



However, it would be difficult to overstate the continuing heartache and distress such practices cause.



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[HossC]

I've got another of those mystery Julius Shulman locations for you today. This is "Job 4055: Allyn E. Morris, Bernbaum Apartments, 1966".



The apartments come with a reasonable view. The only clue is the street numbers (1611 and 1613). Did everyone spot the fluffy animal on the balcony?



The last shot shows a side view.



All from Getty Research Institute

Does anyone know where this building is/was?

[BifRayRock]

Originally Posted by HossC

I've got another of those mystery Julius Shulman locations for you today. This is "Job 4055: Allyn E. Morris, Bernbaum Apartments, 1966".


Does anyone know where this building is/was?

Strong suspicion it is 1613 Silverwood Terrace. Open spaces are now enclosed but the outline is still there.

GoogleSVU

[ScottyB]

Originally Posted by tovangar2

Detail:


I was aghast to see the looted items stacked against the house, but, in the interest of fairness, I add the apologia below:




pacific coast archaeological quarterly,vol 41, #1
http://www.pcas.org/assets/documents...tweb-2_000.pdf



However, it would be difficult to overstate the continuing heartache and distress such practices cause.



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Huntington Digital Collection has this photo dated 1882, Rust residence on Monterey Rd. Is this the same house? The hills in the background look larger than the area's topography.....perhaps the zoom lens has magnified the Monterey hills, but hard to tell. The siding looks similar, though.

[Flyingwedge]

Originally Posted by ScottyB

Huntington Digital Collection has this photo dated 1882, Rust residence on Monterey Rd. Is this the same house? The hills in the background look larger than the area's topography.....perhaps the zoom lens has magnified the Monterey hills, but hard to tell. The siding looks similar, though.

Good eye, ScottyB! It certainly looks like the same house. You're right about the siding. Also, the brick chimney
matches both photos; there's a stove pipe over the door at left in both photos; the windows on either side of that
door match; and there's a porch on the right side of the house in both photos, although it's screened in below:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

H. N. Rust residence:



SCWHR-P-002.2-2124R at Seaver Center

I think the 1882 photo was taken looking south or southwest. The hills in the background seem to match up OK.
I think the little "pocket canyon" to the left of the house in the 1882 photo is the same area that's above and to
the right of the football field below:



Google Earth

[tovangar2]

Yes, extraordinary find ScottyB. How amazing to see the Rust home not draped in plants.

Is that the beginning of the rose bush near the left door? And odinthor, what is that sapling with the enormous leaves?


ETA, No roses e_r, but this splendid cedar tree may date from Rust's time. It would have been in his side yard:


gsv

[tovangar2]

Originally Posted by ProphetM

The Garvanza Improvement Association's Facebook page has some photos of the Stewart house, including its move and a roof replacement in September:

https://www.facebook.com/Garvanza/

Just use "Search for posts on this page" function to search for 'stewart'.

The Stewart Farmhouse is coming along, looking fancier than I thought it would. I don't know why they're going for a high-Victorian look That pop-up in the porch roof isn't original and the gingerbread arch and turned porch supports (etc, etc) look odd to me. What is all this stuff*?:

GIA

Originally Posted by tovangar2

find a grave

oldstuff's original post is here


ETA, I've seen the Stewart house described as the second-oldest wood-frame building in LA. Does anyone know the oldest one?

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[Flyingwedge]

Originally Posted by tovangar2

Detail:


I was aghast to see the looted items stacked against the house, but, in the interest of fairness, I add the apologia below:




pacific coast archaeological quarterly,vol 41, #1
http://www.pcas.org/assets/documents...tweb-2_000.pdf

However, it would be difficult to overstate the continuing heartache and distress such practices cause.

Yes, ouch. I don't see how the "scientific standards of the time" could have included preserving the artifacts by leaving
them outside and unprotected, as Mr. Rust chose to do. Even in the 1800s people should have had more sense than that.


This photo was taken somewhere in the Baldwin Hills on April 24, 1931. "Mr. Repp is seen here with the rewards of two
hours laborious excavating. This collection includes stone bowls, metates, pounders, heating stones and miscellaneous
relics recovered at a depth of seven feet."



00071902 at LAPL

That's Edward Earl Repp (1901-79), who wrote short stories and screenplays. In 1931 he lived on Field Avenue, just north
of Jefferson Blvd., where Dorsey High School is now. I wonder what happened to the artifacts he collected?

[ScottyB]

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

Good eye, ScottyB! It certainly looks like the same house. You're right about the siding. Also, the brick chimney
matches both photos; there's a stove pipe over the door at left in both photos; the windows on either side of that
door match; and there's a porch on the right side of the house in both photos, although it's screened in below:





I think the 1882 photo was taken looking south or southwest. The hills in the background seem to match up OK.
I think the little "pocket canyon" to the left of the house in the 1882 photo is the same area that's above and to
the right of the football field below:



Google Earth

Thanks for the GoogleEarth view Flyingwedge, I think you're spot on. I am always surprised at how much larger the local hills seem in old views, and conversely how much smaller they appear in contemporary vistas - that is, the ones that haven't been scraped into oblivion.

[DViator]

Originally Posted by BifRayRock

Strong suspicion it is 1613 Silverwood Terrace. Open spaces are now enclosed but the outline is still there.

GoogleSVU

Nice! It's great that it's still standing, but those renovations take away so much of its character. Who else wants to buy this place and restore it?

[HossC]

Thanks for finding today's Julius Shulman location, BifRayRock. I knew that Allyn E Morris designed several buildings around the Silver Lake area, but my searches failed to find the Bernbaum Apartments. Here's the view from the road below (Easterly Terrace).


GSV

DViator, I entirely agree that the apartments deserve to be restored.