Posted Jul 22, 2008, 5:45 AM
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Originally Posted by yeah215
I have a question. This may have already been addressed, but I wasn't able to easily find it.
Will there be a train that runs from San Diego to San Francisco? It seems that one would have to transfer. Does that really make sense? I would think there would be an express train that would run San Diego, Los Angeles, San Francisco. Wouldn't that make sense?
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Past literature described 5 different lines. AS I recall they are/were:
LA - SF
LA - Sacramento
SD - SF
SD - Sacramento
SF - Sacramento
I believe these were cited in the original business plan; dated circa 2003 or 2004.
Below is copied/pasted from the Final Program EIR/EIS Report: Volume 1. Not very telling, but does speak to service levels. Of note, I have seen similarly described literature at the same web site, but with different numbers. 21 instead of 12 for semi-express and local. Typo's?
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2.6.2 Conceptual Service Plan
To satisfy the travel time, service quality, and ridership goals (representative demand) developed for the Business Plan, and accounting for the general characteristics of the corridors considered, a conceptual service plan was developed that would provide a wide variety of service options. A mix of express, semiexpress, local, and regional trains would serve both intercity passengers and long-distance commuters.
In order for HST service to be economically viable, the plan provides frequent and efficient operations. In 2020, a total of 86 weekday trains in each direction would be provided to serve the statewide intercity travel market. Sixty-four of the trains would run between northern and southern California, and the remaining 22 trains would serve shorter distance markets. The basic service pattern provides most passenger service between 6 a.m. and 8 p.m., with a few trains starting or finishing trips beyond these hours. Eighty-six trains per day could be a highly frequent operation; however, as shown below, when divided into 5 levels of service the frequency is greatly reduced. Frequencies would be further reduced in order to serve multiple end points. For example, for HST service between northern and southern California through the Central Valley, some trains would go to the Bay Area, and others to Sacramento. Therefore, while there could be 12 local trains, only a portion of these would serve each endpoint. The following five types of intercity trains are planned.
• Express (20 trains per day): Trains running between Sacramento, San Jose, or San Francisco and Los Angeles or San Diego without intermediate stops.
• Semi-Express (12 trains per day): Trains running between Sacramento, San Jose, or San Francisco and Los Angeles and San Diego with intermediate stops at major Central Valley cities such as Modesto, Fresno, and Bakersfield.
• Suburban-Express (20 trains per day): Trains running between northern and southern California and locally within the major metropolitan areas (i.e., the San Francisco Bay Area and the Los Angeles area) at the beginning and end of the trip without intermediate stops in the Central Valley.
• Local (12 trains per day): Trains stopping at all stations. Some of these local trains might ultimately be operated as a “skip stop” or semi-express service, where trains would stop at only a portion of the possible stations on a specific line, to improve the service and better match patterns of demand.
• Regional (22 trains per day): Sacramento to San Francisco service and early morning service from the Central Valley to San Francisco or Los Angeles/San Diego.
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See the Final Program EIR/EIS Report: Volume 1 for more of the 97 page document. The above is on page 2-25 (pdf pg 25).
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