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Old Posted Mar 1, 2016, 12:48 AM
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I have a total of 22 photographs missing from imageshack that I posted a couple weeks ago.

I've replaced 2 so far.
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Hoss, I can't see the two photographs you posted earlier this afternoon.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=33936

I'm curious, are they visible on your computer?

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Old Posted Mar 1, 2016, 1:11 AM
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Here's a fun jumbo postcard.

"American Bowling Congress, Long Beach California" [no date]


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Old-Vintage-...MAAOSw~OVW0lI0

I think the lanes might have been set up in the Long Beach Arena.

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Pueblo Oratorio

I wasn't aware the Chapman Hotel & Bungalows had a private chapel somewhere on it's grounds.



http://www.ebay.it/itm/CPSM-INTERIOR...kAAOSwAKxWUBvr




Here's a second postcard I found that mentions the Pueblo Oratorio.


eBay

Does anyone know where the chapel was located on the hotel grounds?

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Here's a picture of it, on the corner c. 1937. The first wedding was held in it Jan 31, 1937, for the Arthur L. Valentines.
lapl

Part of it was taken up for the Zephyr Room


postcard view

Starting in November 1945, into 1950 the radio reality show Bride & Groom was broadcast from Chapman Park Hotel. The host interviewed couples about how they met, where they went on their first date, etc (it's corney but kind of cute), then they would marry off-mike, in the Chapman's chapel, and afterward came back on the show. In exchange they got a bunch of loot like appliances and tableware plus a free honeymoon.

postcard advertising Bride & Groom


The mural in the postcard "the Annunciation" was done by Alfredo Ramos Martinez in 1936 and apprently painted over after only a few years. In 1957 the Secret Harbor restauraunt now occupying the Zephyr space expanded into the then-unused chapel and demolished the apse where the mural was. Part of the article about it from the Times at the time the the Chapman was being wrecked in 1967:

10-5-1967 lat

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Old Posted Mar 1, 2016, 5:03 AM
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Yesterday I happened across a group of rare negatives featuring 'Bronco Pictures'. [1910, 1911]

below: Here we see half a church.

#5

eBay


below: Is that the 'Chute-the-Chutes' tower along the left border? (the fence appears different here than in the preceding 5 pictures)

#6

ebay


below: I believe that might be amusement park 'Swings' in the distance.

#7

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this fence matches the fence in photo #6. (I believe it's higher than the fence in photos #1 thru #5, also it's lighter in color & doesn't have the diagonal supports)
so...this might be a different venue than what appears in #1 thru 5.

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e_r, the "half a church" in photo #5 is the German Evangelical Church on the NE corner of 12th and Hope,
adjacent to Fiesta Park, that we've seen before.

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Los Angeles High School Football Team, ca. 1908.


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Was #5's name Heiney Hunter?


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President Wilson, taken on 12th St. near S. Hope. Sept. 20, 1919, Los Angeles Calif.


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Also, good eye to recognize the theater at Chutes Park!

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Your photo #6, showing the Chutes Theater from behind, must have been taken in the area beyond the right
field fence. As for photo #7, the Circle Swing ride is the largest of the circles in the lower right corner, beyond
the left field fence:

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1907 Sanborn Map, Chutes Park:


LAPL
Chutes Park, the baseball park, was rebuilt on the same footprint and renamed Washington Park during
the winter of 1910-1911. Since your photos are dated 1910-1911, I'm not sure which park's outfield
fence is shown.
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Seems that host photobuckit has amended/scrambled some preexisting settings. I also wonder if some of the photo prestidigitation may be due to posting higher resolution "png" images instead of jpeg, pushing bandwith parameters for the image host site and this site. FWIW, reposted newer links to lower res images still resulted in a few blank images - while I was logged. Then, magic reappearances after log off.






These images are from a 1944 -Santa Monica Blvd panorama (5900 block) near its intersection with Tamarind Ave. http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/72267/rec/2 Conveniently located near the cemetery. Note street lamp tops are shrouded. Probably part of the WWII black-out effort. Recall seeing a NLA map demarcating blackout areas, but they likely changed as the war progressed.




Cinema Cafe at 5925 Santa Monica Blvd.









5959 Santa Monica?



















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NW corner Wilshire and Mariposa

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Here's a picture of it, on the corner c. 1937
lapl


postcard view
Very nice, NCD!

In a couple of the Chapman Park Hotel photos we see one block to the west the
Auburn-Cord/Blue Cross/Packard Bell/Richfield/ARCO/Indonesian Consulate building
at the NW corner of Wilshire and Mariposa, so here is an item on that building's
ownership history:

Nov 4, 1951 Los Angeles Times @ LAPL
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USCDL

Since we've been in the neighborhood recently.... According to the USCDL, the house was Nathan Jacoby's restaurant ca. 1890; apparently the librarians think "res" in city directories refers to 'restaurant'. According to the 1886-1887 CD, this was the residence of "N Jacoby" of Jacoby Brothers, who appear to have had a number of clothing and shoe stores. N Jacoby is listed at "318 S Fort"--which of course became Broadway. There were renumberings as well as street-name changes in the '90s, so I'll have to investigate to see if early Sanborns reveal what Jacoby's house may have become...perhaps 418...although much of the "old" in these blocks was swept away for commercialism and Jacoby's house may have been demolished soon after the photo was taken.


I'm sure we've noted that change before, but here's what the Times had to say in a story on July 5, 1989:

In 1890 Part of [Broadway] was first called Calle Fortin--Fort Street--because it passed through the hilltop Ft. Moore. Another section was known as Eternity Street, because it led to a cemetery; Downey Avenue, after Gov. John G. Downey, and Buena Vista Street, whose "good view," as legend has it, was the view from the hillside of the women's bathing pools (where the senoritas wore bathing dresses). City officials eventually decided to rename Fort Street because the area's many German citizens had trouble with the pronunciation--it would come out "Fourth Street," causing confusion with a thoroughfare by that name. By 1910, all sections were dedicated under the one name, Broadway.






Notorious views of the Jacoby Bros. Store.



1887 - Corner of Temple Street at Main Street and Spring Street looking south.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/3936/rec/12





http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=444

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=449



1886 - Jacoby store's staff.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...d/17701/rec/26


Butch Cassidy would have looked at home.
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Here's a picture of it, on the corner c. 1937. The first wedding was held in it Jan 31, 1937, for the Arthur L. Valentines.
lapl
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Very nice, NCD!

In a couple of the Chapman Park Hotel photos we see one block to the west the
Auburn-Cord/Blue Cross/Packard Bell/Richfield/ARCO/Indonesian Consulate building
at the NW corner of Wilshire and Mariposa, so here is an item on that building's
ownership history:

Nov 4, 1951 Los Angeles Times @ LAPL


The house once at the NW corner of Wilshire & Mariposa.... More at

http://wilshireboulevardhouses.blogs...lease-see.html



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NoirCityDame, thanks so much for the excellent information on the Pueblo Oratorio Chapel and for the photograph above that clearly shows the shape of the chapel
before the Zephyr Room was built. I always thought the tower was purely ornamental, I didn't realize it was attached to a chapel.

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also..............


posted by NCD


I just noticed the large house (I circled in blue above) nestled among the smaller bungalows. Does anyone know if it predates the Chapman Hotel complex (GW?)

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Thanks Flyingwedge for the follow-up on the 'Bronco' photographs. The name 'Fiesta Park' had slipped my mind; that's why my initial post was a bit vague.
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Here's Emmet Street on the 1910 Baist map. It can also be seen on the 1914 map, but it appears as Gleason Street, its current name, by 1921.
NB. This area is covered by two different plates of the Baist map. I've done my best to merge them.


www.historicmapworks.com/www.historicmapworks.com

Freeman M Hallett is listed as a photographer in the contemporary City Directories, but his home address isn't given as 3302 Emmet Street until 1912. He worked for Putnam & Valentine, a photographers who were at 208 N Spring Street.
Hoss, thanks for locating Emmet Street & for the information on Hallett. (the seller on eBay listed the bronco pictures under Wallett). It's much appreciated!

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I bet he was moonlighting from Putnam & Valentine when he took the rodeo photos.

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Here are two additional Hallett 'Bronco Pictures' from around 1911.

I like to point out the people in the periphery.


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It looks like the bleachers are on the opposite side of the fence facing a different attraction. -perhaps in Chutes Park.

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Here's a fun photograph I happened across on eBay a month or so ago.


It shows the Cole Bros. Circus in Los Angeles. (but it doesn't include a location, other than the city, or the date)

I've kept it LARGE for your viewing pleasure.

eBay

-from the look of things it appears to be in 1940s. (note the carnival canes with kewpies hanging on them) -in that barrel over there.......................................................................... (my Dad collected them)


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Having a drink in some alleyway in Los Angeles.

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Looks like fun!

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'mystery' location.

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Does Carodins Wardrobe ring a bell for anyone?

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Starting in November 1945, into 1950 the radio reality show Bride & Groom was broadcast from Chapman Park Hotel. The host interviewed couples about how they met, where they went on their first date, etc (it's corney but kind of cute), then they would marry off-mike, in the Chapman's chapel, and afterward came back on the show. In exchange they got a bunch of loot like appliances and tableware plus a free honeymoon.

In a previous post I mentioned this radio series with a link to a sample broadcast of the show!


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One of the postcards mentions the Chapman Park Hotel "Where the 'Bride & Groom' Broadcast is Held." This radio show apparently had a happy couple telling audiences their love story minutes before they were married. The program also interviewed couples who had been married 50 years or more.
This LINK has a sample episode one can listen to, and a google search will bring up a couple websites about this radio series.
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'mystery' location.

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Does Carodins Wardrobe ring a bell for anyone?

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http://brighamyen.com/tag/carodins-wardrope/


BEFORE: Carodins Wardrobe thrift shop at the corner of Fair Oaks and Colorado in Old Pasadena in 1984.

AFTER: Today a J.Crew occupies a beautifully restored historic art deco edifice with offices above

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I hope these images show up. I emailed Photobucket yesterday, but so far I've only had automated responses.


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I posted about the Stiles Oliver Clements designed Vons store at the Broadway-Crenshaw Center in post #33284. A couple of my images, and a couple in Noircitydame's follow-up in post #33285, show the extant Broadway department store at that location. This is Julius Shulman's view of The Broadway. It's "Job 142: Raymond Loewy, The Broadway (Department Store) (Los Angeles, Calif.),1947".







All from Getty Research Institute

The building is now occupied by Walmart. Due to work on the Metro Crenshaw Line, the Googlemobile hasn't been able to get closer than this for the last few years.


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Yes! I can see them Hoss. Beautiful Shulman photographs.

While we're in the area, I wanted to ask about a former Bank of America that's just a block or so south on Crenshaw.

Today it is a liquor store called 'The Liquor Bank'.


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I know it was a B of A because if you look closely the Bank of America Clipper Ship is visible on the deco pylon (see below)


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Surely we've visited this former bank on NLA, but I haven't been able to find any previous posts.
Was it one of your Bank of America Shulman photos Hoss, and I just forgot?

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The color in this Kodachrome slide from the 1940s is spectacular.


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I feel like I should know where this is, but at the moment it escapes me.
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Thanks for locating the Carodin Wardrobe slide from this afternoon Lakeshow. -much appreciated.

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I just happened across the following two slides earlier today.

They're both dated 1953, and the seller says they show a LARy "rail laying car".


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orig-Kodachr...8AAOSwUuFWz63M

It would be fun to figure out the location but I don't believe there are enough clues.

Here's the second one folks.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orig-Kodachr...kAAOSwx-9Wz67g

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