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Help Redesign Park Avenue, City Asks New Yorkers
A major construction project at Grand Central Terminal is giving the city the chance to restore Park Avenue's malls to their former glory.










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Work is set to begin on a massive, 20-year project to rebuild parts of Grand Central Terminal, and the construction may give the city the chance to restore Park Avenue to its former glory.

As the name suggests, Park Avenue was once home to wide, plant-covered pedestrian malls, but the medians were narrowed in 1927 to add extra lanes of car traffic.

Starting early next year, the $2 billion rehabilitation of the Grand Central train shed will force the city to tear up a stretch of the avenue as they repair tunnels and the 1.8-mile Park Avenue viaduct.

That provides an opportunity to reimagine a stretch of Park Avenue between Grand Central and 57th Street, including the possibility of widening the malls to allow pedestrian access once again.

An online portal launched last Monday by the Department of Transportation gives an overview of the avenue's history, lists some possible improvements and includes a survey where New Yorkers can weigh in on which version they like best.
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More info and surveys on the website...


https://nycdotprojects.info/project/park-avenue

Re-imagining Park Avenue
Re-imagining Park Avenue for the future.



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Welcome to DOT’s portal for the Re-imagining Park Avenue project. The City of New York and the MTA Metro-North Railroad is embarking on a multi-year project to rehabilitate and repair the 100+ year old Grand Central Terminal Train Shed. As part of this project, the medians along Park Avenue between Grand Central and East 57th Street will need to be reconstructed, and we want your input on what you’d like to see when the medians are re-built following construction.

This project portal offers some background of the project area, and showcases the different design options and potential features for the malls. Please use the left-hand bar to navigate through the different pages.

After you’ve viewed this site, please visit our survey link to tell us what you’d like to see along Park Avenue. Your feedback will kick-off a multi-year process led by the City of New York to help inform the re-design of the iconic Park Avenue malls.

MAP of the overall plan:
https://nycdotprojects.info/sites/de...2019-01-09.pdf






























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What a COOL Shot.. from the cars, looks to be the 40's!!

What's the tower to the left?
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It would be nice to think of this promenade as an opportunity to provide additional outdoor space. I am thinking about stalls for food carts, book sellers, and other goods with a pedestrian-only strip down the middle and lots of greenery and some canvas canopies here there. This could help in case of future pandemics or just green space for the office workers. Push the bikes/scooters to a protected bike lane and shrink the space dedicated to cars. There's no reason for Park Ave to be 4 lanes across on either side.
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What a COOL Shot.. from the cars, looks to be the 40's!!

What's the tower to the left?
The photo is no earlier than the mid-1950's, because I see a building completed in the mid-1950's.

The tower is the Carlyle, a fancy hotel on Madison Ave. The photo shows Park Ave. in the low 70's, looking uptown.
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FINALLY!

Back Park Ave.

Does anyone have a timeline?
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While I love the idea of bringing back a walkable green space to Park Ave (not to mention the traffic flow benefits of dedicated turning lanes), the last thing NYC needs is another speedway for homicidal Lance Armstrong wannabes. The Park Avenue malls should be for pedestrians only, or they simply shouldn’t happen.
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I think thats an unwarranted concern. Aside frombthe fact the bicycle lane would likely be segratwd from the rest of the space, unlike cyclists on the street which would pass through interesections with the directional flow of traffic, cyclists in the mall space would be forced to stop at every cross street because they would be approaching a sidewalk. A fair question would be whether the cycle lanes on the mall would be used all that much at all for this reason.
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It's so obvious that Park Ave does not need to be 8 lanes wide.
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