Gardens on Rose | Regina | 13 floors | 45 meters | Completed

[Regina Boi]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

haha that is hilarious Well, glad that you didn't do it!

Uuuughhhh, what a nightmare that would have been! Nice guns!! Lol

[Chadillaccc]

Thanks yeah... I've heard it's proving to be quite the crap-shoot for any one that invested in Capital Pointe at all. :S Scary.

[TechnicalRecession]

Originally Posted by Goose

February 26, 2013


This project is quickly catching up to Centre Square Place.

I'd say it has done more than catch up, it is now ahead, working on floor eleven while center square works on 10!

[Draftsman]

Originally Posted by TechnicalRecession

I'd say it has done more than catch up, it is now ahead, working on floor eleven while center square works on 10!

True...but to be fair, Centre Square Place does have a few levels of underground parking while Gardens on Rose is all above grade.

[prairieguy]

Does anyone have any theories on why there is a pretty significant amount of condo tower development in Regina close or in downtown core, yet Saskatoon, with a higher actual number and percent of pop growth has nothing?? Is it because of developers in Regina willing to take a risk, municipal incentives, government city, ???? Thanks.

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by prairieguy

Does anyone have any theories on why there is a pretty significant amount of condo tower development in Regina close or in downtown core, yet Saskatoon, with a higher actual number and percent of pop growth has nothing?? Is it because of developers in Regina willing to take a risk, municipal incentives, government city, ???? Thanks.

Good question, I've wondered that myself seems a lot has/is happening in Regina and really not much is happening in Saskatoon (aside from the hideous new downtown hotel)

[UPP]

Originally Posted by prairieguy

Does anyone have any theories on why there is a pretty significant amount of condo tower development in Regina close or in downtown core, yet Saskatoon, with a higher actual number and percent of pop growth has nothing?? Is it because of developers in Regina willing to take a risk, municipal incentives, government city, ???? Thanks.

1) Saskatoon already has a huge lead in condo stock downtown or near the downtown. They must have 2x as many high rise condos.

2) Apartment vacancy in Saskatoon is around 3% while Regina's is less than 1%.

3) Much of Saskatoon's growth is in industrial/commercial/trade growth that is located in the north industrial park. Living downtown would not be practical. Regina has probably a lot more downtown workers based on the crown head offices and now Mosaic.

Just my thoughts

[Treesplease]

Originally Posted by prairieguy

Does anyone have any theories on why there is a pretty significant amount of condo tower development in Regina close or in downtown core, yet Saskatoon, with a higher actual number and percent of pop growth has nothing?? Is it because of developers in Regina willing to take a risk, municipal incentives, government city, ???? Thanks.

While the two condos being built downtown have a physical presence in the sense that you can see them from more than 4 blocks away - the actual number of condo units being built downtown relative to the burbs is ... miniscule.

[Treesplease]

Floor for what will be the 7th living surface poured today (not sure what the actual floor number is in SSP terms given the parkade underneath)

[thefourthtower]

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[Goose]

Originally Posted by thefourthtower

Is there room on that city block for another tower

Yes, there is a large surface parking lot on that block south of Gardens on Rose. A developer could easily fit in two more buildings of the same width.

[thefourthtower]

Originally Posted by Goose

Yes, there is a large surface parking lot on that block south of Gardens on Rose. A developer could easily fit in two more buildings of the same width.

That could clear the way for possible new towers , no buildings to demolish , no underground vaults to move three in a row one never knows

[CoR East]

Originally Posted by Goose

Yes, there is a large surface parking lot on that block south of Gardens on Rose. A developer could easily fit in two more buildings of the same width.

The downtown plan's mandate for a minimum 20m tower separation would limit you to one tower on the remaining property south of the Garden's on Rose I believe.

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by CoR East

The downtown plan's mandate for a minimum 20m tower separation would limit you to one tower on the remaining property south of the Garden's on Rose I believe.

Isn't it 10m separation? Which would allow buildings on the corners of the streets. 20 seems excessive (but you could very well be right).

[Goose]

Originally Posted by CoR East

The downtown plan's mandate for a minimum 20m tower separation would limit you to one tower on the remaining property south of the Garden's on Rose I believe.

There has to be ways around that, because Hill Tower 3 is less than 20 metres from Hill Tower 1 and FCC 2 will be less than 20 metres from FCC 1.

[Devon]

Originally Posted by CoR East

The downtown plan's mandate for a minimum 20m tower separation would limit you to one tower on the remaining property south of the Garden's on Rose I believe.

What constitutes a tower? How many floors? I feel like there shouldn't be a regulation for how close the buildings are, as long as they are safe.

[Festivus]

Originally Posted by Devon

What constitutes a tower? How many floors? I feel like there shouldn't be a regulation for how close the buildings are, as long as they are safe.

I'm of the opinion that there needs to be some mandatory distance between tall structures to allow for safe demolition, but I don't know enough to say what it should be.

[CoR East]

Originally Posted by Devon

What constitutes a tower? How many floors? I feel like there shouldn't be a regulation for how close the buildings are, as long as they are safe.

Anything above the podium level of the building (typically two to three commercial floors or three to four residential floors ). It is true that we have some new buildings that are closer to their neighbours than 20m but the examples are all office use to office use and they are all exceptions to the rule. The city is extremely unlikely to approve a residential use within 20 m of any other use including other residential because of privacy concerns.

[Devon]

Originally Posted by CoR East

Anything above the podium level of the building (typically two to three commercial floors or three to four residential floors ). It is true that we have some new buildings that are closer to their neighbours than 20m but the examples are all office use to office use and they are all exceptions to the rule. The city is extremely unlikely to approve a residential use within 20 m of any other use including other residential because of privacy concerns.

I have this dream(I do this a lot) of super dense residential reminiscent of apartment blocks in early east coast US cities.

[Draftsman]

Originally Posted by Festivus

I'm of the opinion that there needs to be some mandatory distance between tall structures to allow for safe demolition, but I don't know enough to say what it should be.

Correct me if i am wrong, but isn't the tower of Capital Pointe supposed to abut the North Canadian Oils Building tower next door (east side)? There isn't enough space to allow for a 20m separation, let alone 10m.