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We are on the blue tower, though I agree that it does not look 60 stories tall.
     
     
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The shorter blue glass tower never really made sense to me. As Brookfield owns the entire platform and all plots are sufficiently contiguous to be merged for zoning purposes, they could just add residential components to the tops of the office towers (similar to what's proposed with Hudson Spire) and sell the condos for much more.

I guess the advantage of the current approach is that they can start building the residential without an anchor tenant, but I think that's fairly short sighted. In either case, I really don't think that the rendering of the blue glass tower is anything more than a placeholder.

For many bland and ugly buildings, even though the surrounding area suffers from their visual pollution, they don't fee the full brunt of the damage because the tenants (all that really matters from the developer's perspective--$) care much more about the view they are looking out towards than the view their building is creating. This situation is different, though; Brookfield owns everything around it. They should really be thinking more like Steven Ross and trying to build something with an "Eiffel Tower of New York" effect to make the area more desireable. This is the location where you hire a starchitect and tell him or her to go wild and build iconic.

I'm not actually expecting that Brookfield will satisfy us with something groundbreaking (although I maintain that they should), but I'd be surprised if they served up Atlier twin pictured above.
     
     
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Did you notice that residential building will have 60 stories? So are we back to the black tower? Blue glass tower looks shorter than 60 floors.

The blue building is the one they have currently posted on the website, though only the base of the tower. It could be the same tower, at a different height. But none of the towers in that overall rendering are exactly the scale they will be.


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Rudin: Brookfield Has A Leg Up


By Rayna Katz
April 7, 2014


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Now that companies are hiring, just as a host of new, state-of-the-art large-scale space is coming online, there could be a plethora of firms looking to move into upgraded bigger digs in the near future.

And in the competition among developers building multiple projects around town, one firm may win the race for one simple reason: its buildings are slated to be the first ones ready for delivery.

“If you’re a large tenant, you’re going to look at the World Trade Center (Silverstein Properties); Brookfield Place, Manhattan West (both created by Brookfield Office Properties) or Hudson Yards (the Related Cos.),” noted Mitch Rudin, president and CEO, Brookfield Office Properties, during a recent talk in Midtown hosted by B’nai B’rith’s real estate division.

And Brookfield is poised to be the first one out of the starting gate, he said. The firm’s most anticipated development, Brookfield Place, will debut its dining terrace, which is slated to feature 14 eateries, as soon as next month, he said.

Soon after, in the fall, Le District Marketplace—which is, as Rudin described it, “a French-themed Eataly”—will open at the 8.5 million-square-foot complex. Meanwhile, construction on the platform for Manhattan West is well under way and will be done by year-end.

Slated to open in 2016, Five Manhattan West (formerly the much maligned 450 W. 33rd St.) promises not to feature “a sea of columns,” Rudin said, with those that will be in the building expected to sit 25 feet apart. Brookfield also is considering building a breezeway between the tower and the High Line that would include retail stores. Progress is taking place at the building, where “we expect to sign a lease with a key office tenant by year-end.”

The timing, along with the location of Brookfield’s projects, could put the company well ahead of its counterparts, noted Greg Kraut, principal and managing director, Avison Young and board member of B’nai B’rith.

“We did a study which showed that, last year at this time, there were 100 blocks of 100,000 square feet of space available, then it shrank to 68 and then 63 throughout 2013 and now that number is at 58,” he tells GlobeSt.com. “So large blocks of space are dwindling and a lot of other buildings aren’t up until 2019/2020, giving Brookfield a strategic advantage,” he said.

The company’s timing also is fortuitous, Kraut said. “Except for financial services firms, everybody is moving. For the first time in a long while, we’re seeing companies look to move and spend capital. And once the latter starts doing well and adding jobs especially, that industry is going to have the same mindset.”

Brookfield’s Manhattan West, along with portions of the Hudson Yards re-zoning district, will have much to offer tenants, asserted Kraut. “The real benefits of Manhattan West are that it’s walking distance to Penn Station and Brookfield is a great, institutional-quality landlord.” Nearby, 3 Hudson Blvd., which sits in the Hudson Yards area “is just two stops away from Grand Central Station on the 7 train, plus Hudson Square Park is right there. I think it’s the best building in the area.”
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Space Quest: Google Needs More Offices in New York City
Internet Giant Launches Search for Room to Hold More Than 3,000 Workers




The Internet giant's headquarters, at 111 Eighth Ave. in Chelsea.


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April 13, 2014


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Google Inc. has played a major role in New York's evolution into a technology center and now wants to expand further in the city, launching a search for enough space to hold more than 3,000 employees, according to several real-estate executives familiar with the hunt.

The Internet firm has been in discussions with several landlords about leasing at much as 600,000 square feet in Manhattan—about half the size of the Chrysler Building. A space that large would represent a roughly 80% expansion for the company, which first established a small outpost in New York in 2000.

Today, Google is based in the Chelsea neighborhood. The company occupies a total of about 750,000 square feet in two properties—at 111 Eighth Ave., a mammoth building that it bought in 2010 for $1.9 billion, and in Chelsea Market across Ninth Avenue. Google has run out of available space at those locations, the executives familiar with its search said.

The expansion options include 450 West 33rd St., a bulky 16-story building on 10th Avenue that used to house the New York Daily News, and the St. John's Terminal Building, a former freight rail terminal at 550 Washington St. by the West Side Highway in the West Village, people said. The company doesn't appear to be close to making a decision, and it is unlikely all of it would be occupied at once. Many tech companies have started leasing more space than they need in anticipation of growth.

Google's search is the latest sign of how important the tech sector has become to the city's economy and real-estate industry. Tech, advertising and media jobs have grown from 265,700 in 2006 to 327,100 this year, according to brokerage Newmark Grubb Knight Frank. At the same time, the financial-services industry is losing standing as New York's traditional growth engine. The number of positions dropped to 434,500 from 449,100 in 2006, Newmark said.

Much of the tech growth in Manhattan is from Bay Area tech firms, such as Google, Facebook Inc., Yahoo Inc., and Twitter Inc., which want to recruit software engineers and other who want to live in New York.

If Google ultimately leases multiple hundreds of thousands of additional square feet, it would be one of the largest corporate expansions in New York in years. A company typically puts about 500 employees in every 100,000 square feet it leases.

Google's headquarters in Mountain View, Calif., are much bigger than its Chelsea operation. The company reported owning or leasing 7.3 million square feet in the California city as of the end of 2012, the last year it reported specifics.

But New York is the second largest outpost in the country for the company, and company executives have said the demand by its employees to live in the city was far greater than it expected.

Google's building on Eighth Avenue has 2.9 million square feet, but most of the space is occupied by other companies that have long-term leases that were signed with the previous landlord. The company has coaxed some to move; with the others, Google will simply have to wait until their leases expire—in some cases, years.

....The floors at 450 West 33rd St., for instance, are at least 100,000 square feet in size. The building, owned by Brookfield Office Properties Inc., is getting a $200 million face-lift; one change is the replacement of small turret-like windows with large blue glass panels.

Across 10th Avenue, developer Related Cos. is building two giant office towers set near the station of the No. 7 subway line extension that is set to open later this year.

The St. John's Terminal has floors that are larger, more than 200,000 square feet—perhaps the largest floors in Manhattan.

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Legal behemoth Skadden Arps, which was a pioneering tenant at the Durst Organization’s 4 Times Square, is looking to another game-changing neighborhood.

Despite efforts to lure it downtown, the law firm wants to stay in Midtown, sources said. The hunt for space, handled by Peter Riguardi and Ken Siegal of JLL, has led it to the upcoming Hudson Yards area.

While The Post’s Steve Cuozzo has previously reported on Skadden’s search, we hear the team is focusing on 3 Hudson Boulevard and Manhattan West.

In both cases, Skadden would become the anchor tenant with 550,000 to 600,000 square feet. Of that total, 50,000 square feet is for back-office functions that could be moved to a lower-priced alternative nearby.


Manhattan West is a multi-tower project along Ninth Avenue between 30th and 33rd streets being developed by Brookfield Properties with leasing through Cushman & Wakefield. The first 67-story tower will have 2 million square feet.

C&W has been offering 450 W. 33rd St., which will get new floor-to-ceiling greenhouse-like windows, as the back-office alternative.


Hudson Boulevard is a 1.89 million-square-foot tower proposed by Joseph Moinian at the northeast corner of Eleventh Avenue and 34th Street being leased through Avison Young.

The law firm is said to be tired of Times Square, where it moved before it became gridlocked with pedestrians. Even if Skadden remained, the firm faced a disruptive restacking to get freshened and technologically updated office space.

Durst is also beginning to ask $80 to $90 per square foot, and Skadden believes it can get a better deal to anchor a new building and get early leasing lower taxes, just as they did when they signed their 20-year lease in 1996. That lease does not end until May 2020 but requires a 24-month notice to renew for five years.

Co-tenant Condé Nast is also moving from the lower portion of the tower to One World Trade Center. Its lease term is being paid for by the Port Authority while Durst tries to lease to another tenant.

Skadden does have the right to take over the rest of the building.

No one would comment.
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Due to the back office option, I think Manhattan West would have the upper hand here...



http://therealdeal.com/blog/2014/04/...idtown-spaces/

Skadden Arps eyes new Midtown spaces
Manhattan West, 3 Hudson Boulevard believed to be law firm's top contenders






April 24, 2014


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Law firm Skadden Arps is on the hunt for a Midtown space, despite attempts to draw the company downtown.

Jones Lang LaSalle’s Peter Riguardi and Ken Siegal are leading the search, which is rumored to be focusing on the Hudson Yards area. Two properties, 3 Hudson Boulevard and Manhattan West, are said to be the firm’s top choices, according to the New York Post.

In either locale, Skadden would settle in as the anchor tenant with between 550,000 and 600,000 square feet. A 50,000-square-foot chunk of that would serve as back-offices, and those operations could ultimately shift to a less expensive space nearby. One contender for the alternative is 450 West 33rd Street, which will soon be outfitted with new floor-too-ceiling windows, according to the Post.

I don't know why 55 Hudson Yards didn't make it to the top of the list as well.
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NO! The executives at Skadden Arps will change their minds when the Midtown East rezoning passes in the fall or when Related starts looking for tenants for the Hudson Blvd buildings. It's a desperate attempt to find any building at this point... MW will not be developed until 2025 at least.

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As soon as the platform is complete, the MW office towers could start at anytime a tenant is found.
     
     
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NO! They will change their minds(executives at Skadden Arps) when the Midtown East rezoning passes or when Related starts looking for tenants for the Hudson Blvd buildings. It's a desperate attempt to find any building at this point... MW will not be developed until 2025 at least.

LOL, Brookfield is set on moving this forward. The back office option is the carrot that dangles. Related's new towers are on the market for tenants as well, particulary 55 HY. Apparently though, 3 Hudson Blvd is proving further ahead in the competition for this particular tenant.


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...we hear the team is focusing on 3 Hudson Boulevard and Manhattan West.

In both cases, Skadden would become the anchor tenant with 550,000 to 600,000 square feet. Of that total, 50,000 square feet is for back-office functions that could be moved to a lower-priced alternative nearby.

C&W has been offering 450 W. 33rd St., which will get new floor-to-ceiling greenhouse-like windows, as the back-office alternative.

It's the mix of lower priced alternatives that would be attractive to those looking for such a thing. You really aren't going to get that with most of the Hudson Yards developments.
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I like both developments, it has to be a hard choice to make for Skadden. Hopefully they do end up moving to Hudson Yards though, it would be yet another major investment in the future of the neighborhood.
     
     
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All of a long Manhattan block separates Manhattan West from 3 Hudson Boulevard, you know...
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All of a long Manhattan block separates Manhattan West from 3 Hudson Boulevard, you know...

They're all in the Hudson Yards, but Manhattan West will be it's own mini-community. There will be a lot of new office space in that distance between 3 Hudson and 1 Manhattan West.
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http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/2014...-city-council/

Plan to Increase Public Space in Hudson Yards Approved by City Council


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April 30, 2014


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The City Council unanimously approved developer Brookfield Properties' plan to double the amount of public space at its $4.5 billion Hudson Yards project on Tuesday.

The rezoning plan for Manhattan West, which Brookfield is building between West 31st and West 33rd streets, from Ninth Avenue to Dyer Avenue, will let Brookfield expand its open space from just over 1 acre to 2 acres.

"This project brings 2 acres of vibrant open space that is sorely needed to this community, which will include world-class free and public arts and events programming by Brookfield," said City Councilman Corey Johnson, who represents the neighborhood, in a statement.

The plazas will include an event space for concerts, art exhibits and performances; an "art plaza" to show off artwork and sculptures approved by the city's Public Design Commission; and areas of trees, tables and chairs.
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I mean that's not necessarily bad, if there is more open space and the same amount of square footage in the buildings maybe they can be pushed higher?
     
     
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Plan to Increase Public Space in Hudson Yards Approved by City Council


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The only surprise is this: Brookfield is currently building a platform above the West Side Rail Yards, where the development will rise.

Brookfield is building a platform above the west end of the Penn Station tracks & yards, between 9th Ave & Dyer Ave.
Related is starting to build the foundations for a platform above the West Side Storage Yard, part of their Hudson Yards development. The current phase of development is in the Eastern Rail Yard (between 10th & 11th Ave) of the WSSY...
     
     
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