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Temple and Hill

Did you notice tetsu and FW, a little house west of the Gillette place , in a matching style? It's almost totally hidden by the larger Gillette home. It will fall for the Montana Grocery, which, in turn, was demolished in 1925:

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Here it is ca 1882, looking so fresh and new, with a stunningly different view to the north than the one in the photos we've been looking at recently:

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When did they straighten out Hill St (it still has a kink in it at Temple)? I forget.

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Did you notice tetsu and FW, a little house west of the Gillette place , in a matching style? It's almost totally hidden by the larger Gillette home. It will fall for the Montana Grocery, which, in turn, was demolished in 1925:



Here it is ca 1882, looking so fresh and new, with a stunningly different view to the north than the one in the photos we've been looking at recently:

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When did they straighten out Hill St (it still has a kink in it at Temple)? I forget.
Kink still there in 1884 ( Stevenson's cadastral survey http://www.bigmapblog.com/2012/steve...-angeles-1884/); seems perhaps to be ironed out by 1891 (Elliott's http://www.bigmapblog.com/2012/ellio...-angeles-1891/.
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Kink still there in 1884 ( Stevenson's cadastral survey http://www.bigmapblog.com/2012/steve...-angeles-1884/); seems perhaps to be ironed out by 1891 (Elliott's http://www.bigmapblog.com/2012/ellio...-angeles-1891/.
The 1921 Baist is still showing the jog:
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The Elliott Birdseye is very difficult for me. Possibly because it's upside-down and I have enough trouble with direction in the best of circumstances.


Interesting that the 1884 Stevenson's map has Hill Street labeled "Cemetery Ave" north of Temple before it becomes Castelar. I don't remember seeing that anywhere else:

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This attractive building is the Cornell Theatre in Burbank. Julius Shulman photographed it in 1949 - the year it opened. It's his "Job 619: Clarence J. Smale, Cornell Theatre (Los Angeles, Calif.),1949".



A slightly different angle shows a striped beacon on the left.



The building looks considerably plainer from the back.



I can almost smell the popcorn . Those candy canes are enormous!



A couple of shots of the auditorium.





Any guesses where this last picture was taken? Was this some sort of bar area?



All from Getty Research Institute

According to cinematreasures.org, the Cornell Theatre was at 1212 N San Fernando Boulevard. They also say that it closed in 1978 and was demolished in 1980. Historic Aerials seems to be working again, so I checked out the location. The 1980 image shows no trace of the Cornell Theatre. It's there on the 1977 image, but it's blurry, so here's the view from 1972.


Historic Aerials

Today, you'll just find a strip mall where the Cornell Theatre once stood.


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This attractive building is the Cornell Theatre in Burbank. Julius Shulman photographed it in 1949 - the year it opened. It's his "Job 619: Clarence J. Smale, Cornell Theatre (Los Angeles, Calif.),1949".



Any guesses where this last picture was taken? Was this some sort of bar area?


My guess is the ladies' powder room. They really *did* powder their noses in those days :-)

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This attractive building is the Cornell Theatre in Burbank. Julius Shulman photographed it in 1949 - the year it opened. It's his "Job 619: Clarence J. Smale, Cornell Theatre (Los Angeles, Calif.),1949".



A slightly different angle shows a striped beacon on the left.



The building looks considerably plainer from the back.



I can almost smell the popcorn . Those candy canes are enormous!



A couple of shots of the auditorium.





Any guesses where this last picture was taken? Was this some sort of bar area?



All from Getty Research Institute

According to cinematreasures.org, the Cornell Theatre was at 1212 N San Fernando Boulevard. They also say that it closed in 1978 and was demolished in 1980. Historic Aerials seems to be working again, so I checked out the location. The 1980 image shows no trace of the Cornell Theatre. It's there on the 1977 image, but it's blurry, so here's the view from 1972.


Historic Aerials

Today, you'll just find a strip mall where the Cornell Theatre once stood.


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AH, Yes, The Cornell. Named for the side street, which, in turn was named for Cornell University. I had never seen it looking new and pristine. By the time I was old enough to go to movies, you took your life in your hands going there and not getting stuck to the floor. The same carpet seen in the lobby shots was by then (mid to late 60's) so covered in soda, candy gunk, popcorn "butter" and other detritus that it was slick in spots and very sticky (like a tar pit) in others. It was all uniformly black except in some untraveled spots in the lobby. We all wore old grungy shoes so our good ones would not get ruined going there. All seats were 50 cents. The roof had leaked and there were odd brownish patches between the stars on the ceiling like clouds of radioactive waste. I also recall that there was a "thing" that was projected on the screen when there was not actually a movie or preview running. It looked like some sort of metal Jello mold, that rotated and changed colors. It also looked kind of grungy.

We (all the people who went to Burbank High, anyway) learned to drive in the parking lot. The parking lot gave way to the condos which can be seen behind the strip mall in the current picture

That was the ladies room, although later there were no chairs.

When they finally took it down, they had also closed the other theaters in Burbank and we had to go to Glendale to go to the movies, even though a lot of them were made right in Burbank. This lasted for a very long time, until they finally put in the AMC multiplex. Thanks for finding the pictures!
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'mystery' location in Boyle Heights. [c. 1940s? maybe 30s?]


Sandy Lopez at https://www.pinterest.com/pin/388928117794183003/

It's interesting how the children are at a much higher elevation than the street below.
I tried finding the name of the market, "Potosi," in the city directories without any luck.

All I found was a Potosi Avenue in the San Fernando Valley.

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It was reported today that a new 6 story hotel is going to built at 1925 N. Wilcox in Hollywood.

This aerial was included in the article


http://urbanize.la/post/six-story-hotel-rise-hollywood

I noticed there were two buildings within the construction zone so I decided to check them out.

The larger of the two is a rather nice looking garage with some nice architectural elements. I'll be sad to see this one go.


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The other building is fairly interesting as well, if you can look past the tacked on wood-paneled front.


gsv


Here's a side view. note the many skylights along the top.


gsv


Go here to see the design for the new hotel.
http://urbanize.la/post/six-story-hotel-rise-hollywood

I think it would have been cool if they had at least incorporated the front of the garage into the design.

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The Hansom Family, taken outside their home at 3454 Percy Street, south of Boyle Heights.





The Hansom home is still there.


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'mystery' location in Boyle Heights. [c. 1940s? maybe 30s?]


Sandy Lopez at https://www.pinterest.com/pin/388928117794183003/
The picture appears to be from LAPL. Their caption is "Children outside their home on 1st Street in Boyle Heights, in Los Angeles, in the 1940's. El Potosi Market is in the background." I eventually found a Facebook page called Who remembers in East L.A. which suggests the location is 1st Street at Cheesbroughs Lane. The gray building on the right certainly appears to match, and so does the sloping street on the left.


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The houses on the opposite side of the street are raised above street level, which also matches the original picture.


GSV

LAPL have another picture of the El Potosi Market.

"Anthony Rodriguez walking on 1st Street, circa 1955."


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Thanks to Earl Boebert and oldstuff for your identification of the Cornell Theatre ladies' room, and for your personal recollections. I bet the men's room never looked as good. The leaking roof doesn't sound nearly as good as Cinema Treasures' description of the curved ceiling which "contained ‘twinkling star’ lights, giving a semi-Atmospheric style to the decoration."
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Excellent research Hoss! Thanks for your help.
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A view of downtown Los Angeles from a 1950s era prop plane.


Richard Clark at https://www.flickr.com/photos/richar...7624251756768/




below: I've enlarged it (by using two halves).




I spy the oft discussed Mode-O-Day building lower left.
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Residence of Mabel Normand, Beverly Hills, California. (postmarked 1929)


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Does anyone know where in Beverly Hills this home was located?
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Mabel Normand



There's a web page on it here.

526 N Camden Drive at Carmelita

It's been remodeled, but retains the same basic shape. This view is from Carmelita:

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The front:

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From the alley:

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It was reported today that a new 6 story hotel is going to built at 1925 N. Wilcox in Hollywood.


Go here to see the design for the new hotel.
http://urbanize.la/post/six-story-hotel-rise-hollywood

I think it would have been cool if they had at least incorporated the front of the garage into the design.
Thanks for the news ER.

I looked at the proposed building then we went to dinner. We had some great prime rib, baked potato and a salad...that's about all I can remember.
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It was reported today that a new 6 story hotel is going to built at 1925 N. Wilcox in Hollywood.

This aerial was included in the article


http://urbanize.la/post/six-story-hotel-rise-hollywood

Go here to see the design for the new hotel.
http://urbanize.la/post/six-story-hotel-rise-hollywood
What a tiresome hotel design. It will just miss the Trylon though (6515 Franklin), a more lovable budget hotel, shown here from the east side in "Collateral" (2004):

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Pity about the single story buildings; they would have added some interest to a very dull design:

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Some of the recent posts on (then) modern banks reminded me of the "Girder and Panel" construction toys of the '60's, some sets were of a similar modern style...can remember playing with them as a kid back in the day.



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What a tiresome hotel design. It will just miss the Trylon though (6515 Franklin), a more lovable budget hotel, shown here from the east side in "Collateral" (2004):
Exactly T2. When I saw that design my teeth began to hurt....oh, the pain.
Then the tears....and nausea.
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Did you notice tetsu and FW, a little house west of the Gillette place , in a matching style? It's almost totally hidden by the larger Gillette home. It will fall for the Montana Grocery, which, in turn, was demolished in 1925:

Here it is ca 1882, looking so fresh and new, with a stunningly different view to the north than the one in the photos we've been looking at recently:

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Well, actually, no, but that's a great early photo of Temple and Hill. This says J. W. Gillette lived in his house from June 1875.

However, I noticed that the house just east of Gillette's on Temple (partially cut off on the middle right edge) . . .
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. . . appears to be the same house -- albeit minus its eastern porch -- seen behind St. Athanasius Church (@ the SW corner
of Temple and New High Sts.) in this c. 1874 photo looking west on Temple. The house is not there on the 1888 Sanborn Map:

LAPL -- http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics13/00026354.jpg
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JW Gillette and Temple St



Excellent!

I always focused on the fantastical terrain on the north side of Temple through there, at that time. Initial grading sure left some strange configurations.

Another. Source says 1871. Your house (No. 320) is the only thing out there. Temple and Hill was the boonies back then:

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Thx too for the 1889 info on JW Gillette. His involvement with the Good Templars, who gave the NW corner of Temple and Broadway to the WCTU, was very interesting.


P.S.

This small item notes that Mrs JW Gillette, at least, was still living at 322 Temple in 1906:


cdnc LA Herald 13 May 1906

And "L. Gillette" was listed as owner on that 1919 demo permit I posted, so the Gillettes owned the home for its entire existence.

One more, ca 1884:

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I love these pictures for the telling details that reveal so much about life then in contrast to life now. For me, the most poignant detail of the Cornell Theater series is the two exterior shots. Note that kids have just left their bikes outside while they went in to see the show. Would kids now be so foolish as to leave their bikes unlocked and unattended? The world has changed.
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