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Old Posted Jun 15, 2022, 7:55 PM
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Not true. I like the Waldorf, St. Regis, Aston, and 830 Brickell. Most of the other newly-proposed (and recently-built) buildings are crap though. My love for Miami is more centered on Coral Gables and Miami Beach.
I prefer this building to all of those, except maybe 830 Brickell. Waldorf and Aston Martin are a little tacky for my taste. Especially at that size.
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It's great to see a big office tower without a huge parking podium proposed for Miami. There are enough of those skinny boxes on top of boxes. Adding a little girth will help. All the better that there's some visual interest incorporated into the design.
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I like that it’s a fattie. Reminds me of something in Tokyo.
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Much improved form over the previous design.

Depending on if and how they light the vertical lines, it could be amazing at night.
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Old Posted Jun 15, 2022, 10:21 PM
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I recently spent some tome in Miami, and this is a tower that skyline needs. Sure there are other proposals just as tall, but a fully fledged office tower matures that skyline somewhat. And it’s easy on the eyes.
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I recently spent some tome in Miami, and this is a tower that skyline needs. Sure there are other proposals just as tall, but a fully fledged office tower matures that skyline somewhat. And it’s easy on the eyes.
Agreed. It’s looking like more and more future office buildings are incorporating more balconies/outdoor spaces which may change future skylines a lot.
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Tallest office building in the South once complete. Will dethrone the Bank of America Plaza in Atlanta.
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Swire, Stephen Ross’ Related plan Florida’s tallest commercial tower in Miami’s Brickell; Proposed building represents second phase of Brickell City Centre


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For the second phase of Brickell City Centre, Swire Properties is teaming up with Stephen Ross to build one of the tallest towers in the Sunshine State.

Swire, led by President Kieran Bowers, and Ross’ Related Companies announced a joint venture to develop One Brickell City Centre, an office tower that will rise 1,000 feet at 700 Brickell Avenue and 799 Brickell Plaza in Miami.

If built, One Brickell City Centre would surpass the state’s tallest commercial building, the 85-story Panorama Tower, a mixed-use project that is also in Miami’s Brickell neighborhood.

However, a few residential projects in the pipeline would rise nearly 50 feet above One Brickell City Centre — to 1,049 feet, the maximum height the Federal Aviation Administration allows — including a Major Food Group-branded luxury condominium at 888 Brickell Avenue and Property Markets Group’s Waldorf Astoria Miami condo-hotel in downtown Miami.


Designed by Miami-based Arquitectonica, One Brickell City Centre would encompass 1.6 million square feet of office space, and would feature the largest floor plates in Miami for a Class A office building, with 360-degree views of the ocean, Miami River, and downtown Miami, according to a press release. Construction is expected to begin in 2023.

The project is the latest confirmation that Related Companies is encroaching on territory that has long been the domain of the Related Group, the Miami-based development firm founded by Jorge Pérez, a longtime friend and business associate of Ross. Related Companies owns a 20 percent stake in the Related Group.

Last month, Ross unveiled his plan to buy and redevelop the site of the historic Deauville Miami Beach hotel at 6701 Collins Avenue. The 3.8-acre resort is being demolished after a yearslong battle between the city of Miami Beach and the property owner over the Deauville falling into disrepair. Ross, who is embroiled in a still-pending discrimination lawsuit filed by former Dolphins coach Brian Flores against the NFL and its 32 teams, is proposing a hotel and luxury condos.


Related Companies is also the biggest Class A office owner in downtown West Palm Beach. In February, the company and its partners, Key International and Wexford Real Estate Investors, paid $35 million for office properties at 400 and 450 South Australian Avenue. Last year, Related spent nearly $500 million buying downtown West Palm’s high-end office towers, including the pair of Phillips Point buildings, CityPlace Tower and half of the ownership interest in Esperanté Corporate Center.
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So these are balconies on the office tower? That's sort of unusual isn't it?

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I hope that this gets built, but I can see it not rising. Miami does not have a booming office market. TheNextMiami pops Champagne when a firm signs a 20k sf lease.
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I hope that this gets built, but I can see it not rising. Miami does not have a booming office market. TheNextMiami pops Champagne when a firm signs a 20k sf lease.
Lots of champagne popping going on these days. The popping add up.
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Let's hope they pull it off, ~1k foot office towers are quite a feat outside of NY and maybe Chicago.

Though on the bright side several have already happened (Philly / SF / LA / Houston etc.).


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So these are balconies on the office tower? That's sort of unusual isn't it?
You'd think but many modern office towers have them like 15 Penn in NYC and the Park Tower in SF. Although they don't have them every floor like many residential towers do.


EDIT: It seems Swire Properties is a Chinese (errr... Hong Kong) company
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Let's hope they pull it off, ~1k foot office towers are quite a feat outside of NY and maybe Chicago.

Though on the bright side several have already happened (Philly / SF / LA / Houston etc.).




You'd think but many modern office towers have them like 15 Penn in NYC and the Park Tower in SF. Although they don't have them every floor like many residential towers do.


EDIT: It seems Swire Properties is a Chinese (errr... Hong Kong) company
Thanks for the other examples, though 15 Penn is not built yet...

Yeah, I feel this is a bit of a long shot along with JMKeynes. We're just too late in the cycle. Rates are rising at warp speed making financing more expensive and will push rents down, even more if the economy contracts. The risk is probably just too risky to take... I can see them taking a 'wait and see' approach.

I'm curious to know about leasing at 830 Brickell. Anyone have any numbers on leasing %??

Edit: Found this article via the Google, https://therealdeal.com/miami/2022/0...kell-in-miami/, (date Jan 25, 2022)

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Overall, the tower has signed more than 150,000 square feet of leases in the last six months, according to the release.
And this https://www.thenextmiami.com/worlds-...ll-for-u-s-hq/ (date Feb 2, 2022)
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The developers of the project say they are seeing strong demand for space in the new building.

Talks are now underway with enough tenants to occupy the entire building, the head of developer Cain International’s Miami office told Commercial Observer.
https://www.thenextmiami.com/miamis-...of-completion/

Boom, 60% c.a June 15, 2022 https://profilemiamire.com/miamireal...r-830-brickell
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Brickell is already more than 60% leased ahead of its late-2022 completion and has attracted additional top-tier office users, including Microsoft, WeWork, and others.
'Top tier' like Wework, lol. 60% is good, not great tho.

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Thanks for the other examples, though 15 Penn is not built yet...
Another completed example would be the new Google building in Austin which has outdoor space on every floor (minus the parking podium). Some of the office tower proposals going up in San Jose also have outdoor space on at least every other floor. It definitely seems to be more common in warmer weather cities and in newer proposals since the pandemic started.

On an unrelated note I'm also skeptical of this being built to the scale that it's proposed at given the current state of affairs, and the design discrepancies between the ground level renders and the shot of the full tower makes me think this is still somewhat early in it's redesign process. Hope I'm wrong though!
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Remember that this project has been in gestation for years now and has recently been transitioned from mixed-use to mostly office. Maybe, just maybe Ross and company are seeing something we aren’t ?
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the Miami-Dade office market is doing extremely well. It's just not a lot of the activity is in the CBD like you might see in Chicago or New York. It's spread all over the County,
Miami's CBD is very small by comparison and has to compete with other neighborhoods where brand new mid and lowrise office construction is also encouraged. Most of the new construction in Brickell and Downtown since 2010 has been residential. More office towers are needed.
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I recently spent some time in Miami, and despite the fact that so much construction is going on, it really doesn’t feel like a lot has changed from my last visit a few years ago. Residential towers are fine, but they don’t bring the extra people (workers, visitors, etc.) that fill the streets up making it a more vibrant and walkable area.

That’s why I’m more excited for towers like this one to go up. It’ll have a presence, and become a symbol the way the other towrs might not, even at the same height.

Anyway, lots of construction in the area, (and what’s the story with so many wild chickens in Miami?)



























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I also see wild chickens all over Ybor City in Tampa lol. https://www.hobbyfarms.com/ybor-city...wild-chickens/
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I hope that I’m wrong, but I’d be shocked if this is built.
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