noirish Los Angeles

[John Maddox Roberts]

The names of the fallen speak volumes about the changing demographic of L.A. over the span of a century. Not a single Hispanic name. Most are Anglo-Saxon-Celtic, but four are German.

[HossC]

This is Ice Capades at 6121 Santa Monica Boulevard. Julius Shulman visited this Stiles Oliver Clements building in 1953. Unsurprisingly, the title of the photoset is "Job 1619: Stiles Oliver Clements, Icecapades (Los Angeles, Calif.),1953".



Here's a different angle showing the entrance.



A wider view of the building.



Getty Research Institute

The section of the building on the corner of Lodi Place has gained an extra story, and the palm trees have grown a bit, but otherwise the scene has stayed much the same.


GSV

The small wall to the right of the entrance has been removed sometime in the last 62 years. This angle also shows how high the palm trees have grown.


GSV

I'll finish with this advert from the September 22, 1956 edition of Billboard.


books.google.com

[Flyingwedge]

Originally Posted by HossC

I'll finish with this advert from the September 22, 1956 edition of Billboard.


books.google.com

Walter A. Brown was founder and owner of the Boston Celtics.

Oh and Edward W. "Eddie" Shore was a hockey hall of famer, mostly with the Boston Bruins.

# # #

Unrelated P.S. -- This Saturday, Oct 24, is the farewell to the 6th Street Bridge over the Los Angeles River: https://www.facebook.com/events/923096777770808/

[Dr House]

"Special dinners"...I wonder what they were?

Edit to add: Sorry...this was supposed to be in response to a long-ago post but the quote didn't show up. Never mind...

[alanlutz]

I enjoyed the GREAT photos of Bunker Hill recently. I'm not on here every day so I don't know if this has been discussed but I see that ONE BUNKER HILL was recently bought this past week by same group that recently remodeled PacMutual Bldg, promising upgrades for the old Edison Building now. http://www.ladowntownnews.com/news/u...2db9fb853.html

[Dr House]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Graf Zeppelin over Leimert Park area of Los Angeles, August 1929.

Most amazing photo ever

[Ed Workman]

Originally Posted by Dr House

Most amazing photo ever

weeelllllll
I bet a dollar that it's a paste-up
Tthe 1930s version of photoshop.
The Zep appears to be a model and heavily retouched.
Cut it out, glue it on and re--photo the montage.
But I'll take good photo special effects over CGI most days

[Earl Boebert]

Originally Posted by Ed Workman

weeelllllll
I bet a dollar that it's a paste-up
Tthe 1930s version of photoshop.
The Zep appears to be a model and heavily retouched.
Cut it out, glue it on and re--photo the montage.
But I'll take good photo special effects over CGI most days

Looks like the swastikas were painted out, at the very least.

Cheers,

Earl

[BifRayRock]

Originally Posted by Earl Boebert

Looks like the swastikas were painted out, at the very least.

Cheers,

Earl

Those symbols were not on the GZ rudders in '29. It was not until a certain dictator assumed control (1933+) that the markings were added.

1929 mines field and a big 'ol dirigible
USCDigital



1929 issue Graf Zeppelin stamp
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...1930_issue.jpg

[HossC]

I may have run out of Bank of America branches photographed by Julius Shulman, but I found a branch of Citizens National Bank that I don't think we've seen before. It was located at 10925 Kinross Avenue in Westwood. Just like yesterday's Ice Capades building, this is another Stiles Oliver Clements design. It's "Job 1618: Stiles Oliver Clements, Citizens Bank (Los Angeles, Calif.),1953".



A closer view.



The photoset also includes this interior shot.



All from Getty Research Institute

The building survives as Bel Air Camera, although the clean lines of the original have been slightly compromised by the addition of two heavy horizontal bars. The stonework on the corner now accommodates three ATMs.


GSV

The building continues back along Gayley Avenue. It's not clear from the Shulman pictures whether the bank originally had a side entrance.


GSV

[Earl Boebert]

Originally Posted by BifRayRock

Those symbols were not on the GZ rudders in '29. It was not until a certain dictator assumed control (1933+) that the markings were added.

That would argue that it was a later photograph of the GZ that was pasted in.

Cheers,

Earl

[Bristolian]

[QUOTE=Flyingwedge;7205836]This is a pre-1930 aerial view looking NE at the 1917 Los Angeles High School. North across what is now Olympic Blvd.,
in the upper left corner, is Memorial Park, future site of the Memorial Branch Library:

UCLA

Interesting that in the 1920s it appears a soccer field or at least a penalty area has been marked out on the field. Was anyone in California playing soccer then?

[ethereal_reality]

originally posted back in 2009

Originally Posted by Dr House

Most amazing photo ever

Believe it or not, the photograph is a "Dick Whittington" in the USC digital Archives. (I apologize for not including the link back in 2009)


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...d/20263/rec/15


Back in 2009, when I first came across the photograph, USC didn't have the zoom function/-so let's take a closer look noirishers.

Here's a close-up of the Graf Zeppelin. (fake or real?) -real but superimposed?


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...d/20263/rec/15



And here's a close-up of the insignias on the tail-fins.


detail

I don't recognize them. Do they ring a bell for anyone?



Now let's look at what's on the ground in the center of the photograph (initially I thought it was a movie theater / now I'm leaning toward a gas station)


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...d/20263/rec/15

Frustratingly, I can't make out any of the lettering on the signs, especially the white lettering on black.
Could it be 'lorem ipsum' (gibberish fill-in)? -that would prove some doctoring has been done.

I think Ed, Earl and BRR made some excellent points.
Does anyone know if Dick Whittington manipulated any other photographs?
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[Earl Boebert]

I think it definitely is a model made for some movie. Not only are the fins slightly the wrong, but in the real GZ the control surface hinges and actuating horns are quite prominent. Also, when the swastikas were added they were large, in a white circle on red background, and in the middle of the fins. I could locate no pictures that would indicate that there were ever any markings on the aft outboard tips of the fins.

Here's a picture of the aft end of the real thing:


Graf Zeppelin, LZ127 by Wolfgang Wiggers, on Flickr

Note the differences.
Cheers,

Earl

[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Now let's look at what's on the ground in the center of the photograph (initially I thought it was a movie theater / now I'm leaning toward a gas station)


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...d/20263/rec/15

Frustratingly, I can't make out any of the lettering on the signs, especially the white lettering on black.

That's the Mesa Vernon Market. It appears that the Dick Whittington image has been mirrored. I've posted details of this photo before (during my Citizens Bank round-up) - it dates from March 29, 1930.


Detail of picture in Huntington Digital Library

For comparison, here's a mirrored version of the detail posted by e_r.

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by tovangar2

*Austraila has since been turned right way up:

This is a great tid-bit of information t2. I love when NLA'ers uncover obscure facts like this. -so fun!



I really thought the 1964 slide (shown below) was taken in a lobby. (mostly because of the lighting)
So I appreciate the clarification sopas...Hoss...etc. -that the mural was actually outside.


eBay


Here are a couple close-ups.

A portion of the mural/mosaic is made of thousands of old telephone switching parts.


Dave Bullock at http://eecue.com/b/632/Bell-Comunica...insbergen.html





...more switching parts.


http://eecue.com/a/1425/1-Bell_Commu...ound_the_Globe

I wonder if there's a significance to 52781?





http://eecue.com/a/1425/1-Bell_Commu...ound_the_Globe

Oh there's more numbers. Now I think they're just random.
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[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by HossC

That's the Mesa Vernon Market. It appears that the Dick Whittington image has been mirrored. I've posted details of this photo before (during my Citizens Bank round-up) - it dates from March 29, 1930.


Detail of picture in Huntington Digital Library

For comparison, here's a mirrored version of the detail posted by e_r.

Excellent sleuthing Hoss!

So what I thought might be lorem ipsum (dummy text) is ornamental grill-work with indirect lighting. (right?)

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[HossC]

I thought it might me neon on the grill-work, but it could be indirect lighting. I tried to get a later picture, but so far I've only progressed to October 21, 1933. At least it shows the large Van de Kamps windmill which wasn't in the earlier shot.


Detail of picture in Huntington Digital Library

[BifRayRock]

Photo verity was probably not as sacrosanct as we tend to think of it today. The answer to ER's question regarding photo manipulation may exist in the notes connected with the Liemert Park night photo, i.e., "composit[e]". (All images are from USCDigital)



http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/13101/rec/13










How did they get that big tire up there?

Originally Posted by Chuckaluck

The original post may have been more tongue in cheek than a definitive assertion that the GrafZ was the direct inspiration for the Zep Diner and novelty electric lights. No doubt the Airship Los Angeles 126 received a fair amount of press in its own right and most likely inspired the depicted lamp. However, the Graf Z 127 garnered plenty of Los Angeles' attention as part of its "celebrated" 1929 world tour. More here: http://www.airships.net/lz127-graf-z...tory#weltfahrt

http://losangelespast.blogspot.com/2...-postcard.html

Graf Zeppelin at Mines Field, 1929
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1342730865153

http://www.airships.net/lz127-graf-z...tory#weltfahrt

Bullocks Wilshire Ceiling Mural
http://www.google.com

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And before GrafZ and the commissioning of the USS Los Angeles there was . . . the Altadena Float!

Altadena apparently had a Zeppelin produced for its entry in the 1908 Rose Parade.
LAPL

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Slightly off topic and some distance from Wilshire Boulevard . . . the subject of Zeppelin Mooring Masts.
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/build...asts-for-zeps/

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by BifRayRock

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Photo verity was probably not as sacrosanct as we tend to think of it today. The answer to ER's question regarding photo manipulation may exist in the notes connected with the Liemert Park night photo, i.e., "composit[e]". (All images are from USCDigital)



http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/13101/rec/13

You found the smoking gun BifRayRock! It says "composit[e]" clear as day.


And here is the original "night shot" BRR's label is referring to. (minus the Graf Zeppelin in the sky)


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/13101/rec/13

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