Homicide stats in Canadian Cities

[biguc]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

The near North and near West Ends of Winnipeg as well as a small portion of the downtown, the areas where most of the city's violent crime occurs, have if anything witnessed a slight gentrification in recent decades.

"Booze" was definitely not the only choice in the 70s and 80s. There were plenty of other choices such as cocaine, PCP and speed, all of which were more prevalent than today. What didn't exist were cheap and toxic meth and crack as well as large numbers of people zombified by SSRIs. In the United States at least, deaths from drug overdose have doubled in the past decade. I would think that the statistics for Canada would not diverge markedly.

No one is arguing that alcohol does not result in social pathologies. It has for centuries. (There was a "gin craze" in the 17th and 18th centuries that provided the impetus for the temperance movement). All drugs do to varying degrees, even marijuana is not entirely benign. I think the point is that it's preferable for an addict to drink a 12 pack of beer rather than do meth. At current prices though so many use a cheaper alternative.

To be fair though, I'll likely be in agreement with you that drug use and distribution of any kind is only one of the roots of violent crime.

I agree with you that high liquor prices in Manitoba contribute to the popularity of meth (and liquor store theft, obviously). Now that the cat's out of the bag it's not like you can just liberalize liquor and expect things to get better, but it's something that should happen, along with a lot of hard, expensive work. Let's not pretend that these problems didn't all crop up soon after Pallister and the Cons cut social services and grass-roots community supports to the bone.

Meth is a convenient scapegoat for the Cons. It's not so much the cause of Winnipeg's crime problem as the other side of the coin (more accurately, another facet of a brilliant piece of shit). It's more popular now, apparently, but meth has always been a thing in Winnipeg. When I moved to Osborne in the mid-2000s people approached me for meth all the time. Around that time the government put in all kinds of regulations on the ingredients of meth. Did the measures stop working? Did they ever work? You even mentioned people doing speed in the '70s. Speed is meth!

It's awful convenient for the Cons if meth use suddenly took off for no reason. Obviously that's not the case. The spikes in homelessness, petty crime, meth use, and murders all have a common cause: a 6'7 Ogre from Portage la Prairie.



Also, I don't know why you're going off on SSRIs like they aren't lifesaving medicine, but that's another thing.

[Denscity]

Just saw Vancouver has hit 17.

[Acajack]

Gatineau has had a fourth.

Man in his 30s shot in the Vieux-Hull downtown.

Targeted hit apparently.

[ssiguy]

Vancouver city at 18. Metros........Van 39, Vic 4, Kel 2, Abbot 4.

[vid]

‘This was not a snowball’: Man who threw metal hitch at Barbara Kentner guilty of manslaughter
APTN National News | Dec 14, 2020
https://www.aptnnews.ca/national-new...-manslaughter/

...

Justice Helen M. Pierce said Monday that the Crown proved Brayden Bushby knew he would seriously injure Kentner, a mother from Wabigoon Lake Ojibway Naiton, when he threw the hitch at her from a moving car in January 2017.

Pierce said the Crown also proved beyond a reasonable doubt that Kentner’s injuries from the assault accelerated her death. Kentner died in July 2017 at age 34.

In delivering her reasons to the court, Pierce referenced witness testimony that Bushby said “I got one” after striking Kentner, and that he laughed after throwing the hitch.

...

The trial heard from a forensic pathologist who testified that complications from an abdominal injury — caused by the hitch assault — were the main cause of Kentner’s death.

Bushby, 18 at the time of the attack, admitted throwing the hitch and pleaded guilty to aggravated assault, but not guilty to manslaughter.

His lawyer argued at trial that Kentner’s underlying health condition cast doubt on the true cause of her death.

...

A sentencing hearing will be held on Feb. 9.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by vid

‘This was not a snowball’: Man who threw metal hitch at Barbara Kentner guilty of manslaughter
APTN National News | Dec 14, 2020
https://www.aptnnews.ca/national-new...-manslaughter/

...

Justice Helen M. Pierce said Monday that the Crown proved Brayden Bushby knew he would seriously injure Kentner, a mother from Wabigoon Lake Ojibway Naiton, when he threw the hitch at her from a moving car in January 2017.

Pierce said the Crown also proved beyond a reasonable doubt that Kentner’s injuries from the assault accelerated her death. Kentner died in July 2017 at age 34.

In delivering her reasons to the court, Pierce referenced witness testimony that Bushby said “I got one” after striking Kentner, and that he laughed after throwing the hitch.

...

The trial heard from a forensic pathologist who testified that complications from an abdominal injury — caused by the hitch assault — were the main cause of Kentner’s death.

Bushby, 18 at the time of the attack, admitted throwing the hitch and pleaded guilty to aggravated assault, but not guilty to manslaughter.

His lawyer argued at trial that Kentner’s underlying health condition cast doubt on the true cause of her death.

...

A sentencing hearing will be held on Feb. 9.

Justice of a sort. We’ll see what penalty he pulls.

[JuelzJones]

Toronto - 70

Vancouver - 19

Edmonton - 36

Calgary - 31

Hamilton - 17

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

Justice of a sort. We’ll see what penalty he pulls.

18 too... Systemic racism at play?

[Dengler Avenue]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...-4YpDpwHTkJ_hg
Why am I having the impression that some are getting away with these egregious acts?

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...-4YpDpwHTkJ_hg
Why am I having the impression that some are getting away with these egregious acts?

Why would you get that impression? All murders are investigated. In some cases they find the murderer, in some cases they don't.

In this case the victim being a lawyer who may have had some powerful friends, probably means there is a better chance someone will get caught, than if it was some young member of a street gang.

[SignalHillHiker]

Shared this story in the media thread yesterday when they announced only that correctional officers had been charged. Today we leaned more and holy shit it’s 10 officers. Good on them for cleaning house but damn... that’s a horrific number of people to be involved in killing an Indigenous inmate.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker

Shared this story in the media thread yesterday when they announced only that correctional officers had been charged. Today we leaned more and holy shit it’s 10 officers. Good on them for cleaning house but damn... that’s a horrific number of people to be involved in killing an Indigenous inmate.

Hard to weep for that guy when you consider what he did, but still astonishing that 10 screened professional trained individuals could be complicit in someone's death in 2020.

[Luisito]

We are at 43 here in Winnipeg.

[ssiguy]

London ends the year with a total of 4.

Chatham-Kent nearly went another year without a murder but one just happened in Wallaceburg.................a 94 year old man killed his 89 year old wife.

[ssiguy]

Hey guys, seeing this horrid year of 2020 is mercifully over, let's try to end it on a positive note.

Let's get some stats from some area/counties/districts that enjoyed no murders or levels that are at drastically record lows for decades.

I'll start..............Perth and Huron in SWO Ontario both of which have around 70,000 had no murders.

[JuelzJones]

End Of The Year Numbers For Cities Over 500k:

Toronto - 71
Winnipeg - 43
Edmonton - 37
Calgary - 34
Montreal - 25
Vancouver - 19
Hamilton - 17
Surrey - 11
Brampton - 8
Ottawa - 8
Mississauga - 7
Quebec City - 3

[JuelzJones]

5 Year Averages For Cities Over 500k:



Winnipeg:

2016 - 3.40
2017 - 2.80
2018 - 2.93
2019 - 5.75
2020 - 5.62
5 Year Average = 4.10/100k


Edmonton:

2016 - 4.29
2017 - 4.48
2018 - 2.88
2019 - 2.88
2020 - 3.77
5 Year Average = 3.66/100k


Toronto:

2016 - 2.64
2017 - 2.25
2018 - 3.31
2019 - 2.63
2020 - 2.37
5 Year Average = 2.64/100k


Surrey:

2016 - 1.93
2017 - 2.11
2018 - 2.83
2019 - 3.64
2020 - 2.0
5 Year Average = 2.50/100k


Vancouver:

2016 - 1.72
2017 - 2.81
2018 - 2.37
2019 - 1.47
2020 - 2.79
5 year Average = 2.23/100k


Hamilton:

2016 - 2.18
2017 - 1.90
2018 - 1.55
2019 - 2.24
2020 - 2.90
5 Year Average = 2.15/100k


Calgary:

2016 - 2.26
2017 - 2.20
2018 - 1.40
2019 - 1.63
2020 - 2.63
5 Year Average = 2.02/100k


Brampton:

2016 - 0.85
2017 - 1.00
2018 - 2.15
2019 - 3.28
2020 - 1.28
5 Year Average = 1.71/100k


Ottawa:

2016 - 2.50
2017 - 1.41
2018 - 1.61
2019 - 1.31
2020 - 0.77
5 Year Average = 1.52/100k


Montreal:

2016 - 1.43
2017 - 1.36
2018 - 1.80
2019 - 1.35
2020 - 1.35
5 Year Average = 1.46/100k


Mississauga:

2016 - 0.75
2017 - 1.08
2018 - 1.20
2019 - 1.36
2020 - 0.85
5 Year Average = 1.05/100k


Quebec City:

2016 - 0.18
2017 - 1.47
2018 - 0.37
2019 - 0.92
2020 - 0.54
5 Year Average = 0.70/100k

[le calmar]

Originally Posted by JuelzJones

End Of The Year Numbers For Cities Over 500k:

Toronto - 71
Winnipeg - 43
Edmonton - 37
Calgary - 34
Montreal - 25
Vancouver - 19
Hamilton - 17
Brampton - 8
Mississauga - 7
Quebec City - 3

How many homicides in Ottawa this year?

[JuelzJones]

Originally Posted by le calmar

How many homicides in Ottawa this year?

Updated the list, forgot to add Ottawa. They had 8 in 2020.

[kwoldtimer]

Eight in Ottawa this year. All males.