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New York City & Chicago 13 20.63%
Los Angeles & Houston 7 11.11%
San Francisco & Boston 13 20.63%
Atlanta & Dallas 14 22.22%
Austin & Nashville 27 42.86%
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St. Louis & Memphis 4 6.35%
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the Wolverine was the US Navy's only Great Lakes gunboat.
yep, the rush-bagot treaty allowed for each side to maintain only one naval ship below niagara, and one naval ship above niagara, "to keep the peace".

this was a drastic reduction from the large naval fleets both sides built on the lakes, above and below niagara, during the war of 1812, and in effect it rightfully demilitarized the great lakes.

today, all we have on the lakes are about a dozen coast guard ice breakers/buoy tenders equipped with machine guns for law enforcement purposes, with a similar number of coast guard cutters on the canadian side. they can engage in minor counter-terrorism/smuggling stuff if need be, but would not fall under any reasonable definition of a proper "military ship".

there are no longer any commissioned naval vessels on either side that are stationed on the lakes, though occasionally the navy does send a frigate/LCS up the seaway on a goodwill/recruiting tour around the lakes. and as i've mentioned previously, the US navy's freedom class LCS ships, and the soon to be built constellation class frigates, are built on lake michigan at Marinette, WI and then sailed down the seaway to the bases they're to be stationed at.
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Now just a small-ish non-navigable creek in Buffalo running beneath the Scajaquada Expressway, a sign along the bike path commemorates its nearly forgotten history:

Black Rock Shipyard
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How did this become a thread about boats?
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Boats are just floating horizontal skyscrapers. Natural flow of discussion.
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Because nerds.

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i grew up going to a boat mcdonalds


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i swear there was a burger king too

damn i don't remember the giant PEABODY COAL sign across the river.
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How did this become a thread about boats?
My fault..I was proposing to take metros in a region and scale them down to a Navy fleet formation to make it tangible in a different way.
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yep, the rush-bagot treaty allowed for each side to maintain only one naval ship below niagara, and one naval ship above niagara, "to keep the peace".

this was a drastic reduction from the large naval fleets both sides built on the lakes, above and below niagara, during the war of 1812, and in effect it rightfully demilitarized the great lakes.

today, all we have on the lakes are about a dozen coast guard ice breakers/buoy tenders equipped with machine guns for law enforcement purposes, with a similar number of coast guard cutters on the canadian side. they can engage in minor counter-terrorism/smuggling stuff if need be, but would not fall under any reasonable definition of a proper "military ship".

there are no longer any commissioned naval vessels on either side that are stationed on the lakes, though occasionally the navy does send a frigate/LCS up the seaway on a goodwill/recruiting tour around the lakes. and as i've mentioned previously, the US navy's freedom class LCS ships, and the soon to be built constellation class frigates, are built on lake michigan at Marinette, WI and then sailed down the seaway to the bases they're to be stationed at.
Interesting stuff. I faintly recall the Rush-Bagot treaty name from history class, but its topic was long lost to my memory. Didn't realize the connection with my hometown's Wolverine.

I always liked (and still do) seeing those Navy ships on those goodwill/recruiting visits when I was a kid. My dad was always good about taking me to see stuff like that. As I've likely mentioned before, I spent my summers on the water... my dad had an old 1950s Chris Craft cabin cruisier that he always was working on (obviously ), and I would accompany him down to the gritty marina right smack in the middle of Erie's heavily-industrial bayfront. My grandfather, who worked on the docks as a shipbuilder, would sometimes come down too and take me around the docks and onto some of the ships, since he knew a lot of the guys down there. It definitely had an impact in making me a boatnerd.
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My fault..I was proposing to take metros in a region and scale them down to a Navy fleet formation to make it tangible in a different way.
Haha by all means carry on gentlemen! I just found it to be a particularly hilarious right turn in the conversation.
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i grew up going to a boat mcdonalds


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i swear there was a burger king too

damn i don't remember the giant PEABODY COAL sign across the river.
I went to a boat TGI Fridays in Covington, KY a few times as a kid. It was part of a larger complex of restaurants and bars called "Covington Landing". I remember the Fridays was next to a club called the Yucatan Liquor Stand lol

Most of the floating restaurants across from Cincinnati have gone. There is still a floating Hooters in Newport, though.
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My uncle met his wife at the Yucatan Liquor Stand.
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Didn't Jeff Ruby's riverboat restaurant break free from its moors and slammed into the supports of the Clay Wade Bailey Bridge a few years back?
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Until we get more voters who see things differently, it looks like:

1st place goes to Austin & Nashville
2nd place goes to Denver & Minneapolis
3rd place goes to Atlanta & Dallas
and New York & Chicago gets an honorable mention,
while San Fransciso & Boston started out strong but fizzled in the home stretch.
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They hijacked by thread like pirates out to sea.
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