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Old Posted Apr 23, 2015, 5:31 AM
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Actually they are suing the Federal government and not AAF.

http://www.tcpalm.com/franchise/shap...bonds_81052029
Yes, you're right. I didn't even know that. Why they suing the Federal government? I just don't understand it.
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Old Posted Apr 23, 2015, 7:24 AM
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Yes, you're right. I didn't even know that. Why they suing the Federal government? I just don't understand it.
They're suing the Federal government because it is them doing the environmental study, and it is them that will approve the remedies of any environmental issues. The FEC AAF project is already approved informally, just waiting the final report of the environmental study to be issued. The suit is about the Feds not waiting for the final report to be issued before commenting their approval of the project.

I would like to add that almost all transportation projects are eventually approved by the Feds anyways. What's being decided presently are what remedies or remedial actions will have to be done to address all environmental issues, so the final report can be issued. Those remedial actions will be included in the final report.

Let's review what some remedial actions might be included for various environmental issues:

Noise: (1) Using welded rail and (2) Installing sound barriers to lower noise to maximum allowed levels. Not running the train at all isn't a permissible remedial action.
Additionally, most of the noise will come from the train's horn that must be so loud at every crossing by law or regulations. Not using the horn is only allowed in low noise zones where the crossings meet pre-approved remedies. Only governments can ask for low noise zones.

Vibrations: (1) Using alternate materials in the railroad beds and (2) Beefing up nearby buildings.

Neighborhoods inequalities economically: (1) Rerouting the rail corridor.
I would like to add that they will be using an existing rail corridor north the Cocoa Beach and a turnpike corridor west to Orlando. They aren't using a brand new corridor that can be rerouted.

Wildlife: (1) Limit construction activities while birds are nesting, (2) Install fencing to keep wildlife out, (3) Provide a means for wildlife to cross (over or under) the corridor safely, and (4) Reroute the corridor. Again, 4 isn't applicable in this case and the other three aren't going to stop this train.

Affects on other modes of transportation: (1) Building more grade separation crossings, (2) Improve the signaling and gates, and (3) Improving bridges over waterways. On flat Florida land, it's more likely for bridges to be built over the railroad where it is at now, and for the railroad to be built over the highways where there is no railroad now. It seems whatever existed first has legal priority at crossings. As for the waterways, all the bridges' operations can be improved upon.

Never-the-less, none of these potential remedies will stop the train by themselves. At best, they will make it more expensive to be built, possibly too expensive.

Which brings us back to what is imho a frivolous lawsuit. The Federal office holder being sued included the phrase meeting the environmental remedial actions in his speech. Which is the purpose of environmental studies in the first place, to identify remedial actions instead of stopping a project.
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State looking at costly fix to unclog Ives Dairy

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/br...423-story.html

Finally!!! It's long overdue!!

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They are proposing a flyover be built over the coastal tracks that parallel U.S. 1 – allowing westbound traffic on Ives Dairy Road to bypass the trains.

Ives Dairy, in northern Miami-Dade County, is the pipeline from Interstate 95 to the Aventura Mall, the state's largest shopping center. It also carries a heavy influx of tourists and traffic to Gulfstream Park in neighboring Hallandale Beach.
I realize that I knows about the traffic on Ives Dairy Rd & US 1. Too much traffic!!! You have avoid this area. Way too extremely overcrowded!!!

Let the speculation begin.
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http://realtime.blog.palmbeachpost.c...ntial-project/
Whats Up With This? new tower for the WPB station......
I cant find any info or pics on this......
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http://www.bizjournals.com/southflor...ential-at.html
still no details on new tower for WPB station, maybe across the street
with a bridge?
maybe they will do the same for Fort Lauderdale......
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For the NIMBYS:

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http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs...be/Ynu7phf.jpg
this is being built next to miami AAF station, next to the giant worldcenter mall thing.
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this is being built next to miami AAF station, next to the giant worldcenter mall thing.
What? There is no hotels or condos? Why not?
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What? There is no hotels or condos? Why not?
There will be that. This is just one tower of many for the innovation district. Condos btw are a big portion of it too.
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http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/...3640607.735719
very very good article about the AAF. must read please
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Bay Link group balks at study, but urges cities to get started with light-rail system


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A Bay Link task force that includes the cities’ mayors and Miami-Dade Mayor Carlos Gimenez on Monday declined to accept a consultant’s request to move forward with a lengthy environmental study needed for Washington to help pay for a rail system linking Miami with Miami Beach. Instead, the group asked for a new plan that envisions Miami and Miami Beach separately studying the rail lines needed in both of their cities, with a cross-bay linkage getting its start later in the process.
Hopefully they will be approved within 90 days and they will decide.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/loca...e20272497.html

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Is going to be great having that connection. I miss Orlando. Land of the crapload of lakes.

Its always just refreshing during the cold season up North to fly down there, and say, damn its hot.
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Yeah it is as they have a failsafe against any negative implications of the lawsuit. Project is moving along. Nothing to worry about.
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Is going to be great having that connection. I miss Orlando. Land of the crapload of lakes.

Its always just refreshing during the cold season up North to fly down there, and say, damn its hot.
Yeah, me too. I miss Florida. I remember Orlando. I haven't been at MCO for a very long time. My last time that I flew on Comair by operated Delta Connection. I remember everything.
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From planes to trains: Robert Crandall joins opposition to All Aboard

1) Not to play ‘battle of the modes’ but I don’t know what it is about passenger rail that seems to drive some people crazy and mad. Unfortunately, passenger rail investments have become another of the ‘cultural war’ issues.

2) Bob Crandall is a smart person—I don’t know what is so difficult to figure out that a large part of the business case for the All Aboard Florida rail project comes from real estate development at the stations and land surrounding the stations. Florida East Coast Industries, which is building the rail line, is a large, savvy, real estate developer and is developing large plots of land, including in downtown Miami, around most of the stations that it owns. Mobility and increased connectivity greatly enhances land values. Mr. Crandall likely only sees this as a transportation investment and not as a significant real estate play. At a Transportation Research Board session a few years ago, I heard one of the executives from either JR East or JR Central in Japan note that something like half of the company’s revenue comes not from the rail operations but from the real estate development.


From planes to trains: Robert Crandall joins opposition to All Aboard

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"Robert Crandall was a titan of the airline industry in the rollicking days of deregulation, and at 79, his heart still pumps jet fuel.

Today, though, he's got another transportation project in his crosshairs -- All Aboard Florida's $2.9 billion express passenger rail.

Crandall, a winter resident of Palm City, is on the steering committee of the anti-All Aboard Florida group Citizens Against Rail Expansion. When he joined the opposition, it bolstered the rag tag effort of grassroots organizers who were taking on All Aboard Florida..."

http://www.bloomberg.com/research/ma...S_4745_32454-1
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