Originally Posted by mr1138
You guys are kind of narrowing in on my beef with this particular line of criticism against this project. Right, wrong, or otherwise, people like Sachs and the folks at COPIRG are asking for the near impossible. In a city that has nowhere near the walking or transit culture, they are asking that we act like San Francisco and remove a freeway. It just seems like they are about 20-30 years too early in fighting this kind of fight, and the energy would be better spent doing something positive like advocating for better inner-city transit. Instead, they're wasting their time, breath, and potentially even making enemies; going negative and trying to throw sand in the gears of a project that most agree needs to happen sooner than later for reasons other than just congestion.
There are so many other criticisms that can be leveled at the relocated I-70 crowd due to the impratical nature of their proposal that it's funny:
-Sachs and the like are also using spur freeways, nut thru freeways, in their examples of freeway removal which is a false comparison.
-The tree-lined boulevard replacement is really a 100,000 car per day major traffic corridor, the traffic will not simply move elsewhere along the street grid due to the nature of the I-70 corridor being Denver's logistics corridor with a ton of originating and terminating vehicle traffic (along with a ton of thru traffic). You'd be replacing I-70 with a street that has twice the daily traffic of Colorado Boulevard- a street that Sachs has vilified for being an auto nightmare. Just what kind of tree-lined boulevard with meandering bicycle facilities will support 100,000 vehicles per day? It's called a surface highway.
-Their cost estimates are beyond ridiculous in being optimistic.
-They equate managed lanes with general purpose lanes when talking about induced demand which is a false equivalency. I don't think there have been any studies done thus far to see if managed lanes cause induced demand, but it seems very unlikely due to the market clearing dynamics of variable pricing.