noirish Los Angeles - Page 986

ethereal_reality · #**19701** Posted **Feb 19, 2014, 5:38 PM**

Miss Green's cottage, Eagle Rock May 10, 1922

ebay

enlarged for further inspection.

GaylordWilshire · #**19702** Posted **Feb 19, 2014, 9:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

LA Times

Effie Neustadt's house at 2515 Wilshire is at right....

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Originally Posted by oldstuff

A note: Before moving to the Wilshire address, Effie Newstadt lived at 1217 W. 23rd St, Los Angeles, in a house that is, perhaps miraculously, still there. Of course, now, it is next door to a Chevron station... She appears at the 23rd street address in the 1897 directory.

My notes indicate that the house Effie was listed at in the 1897 CD--1217 West 23rd--no longer stands. The first remaining vintage house on the north side of the block to the west of the Arco station is 1223.... The next year, Mrs. Neustadt was listed at 823 S Bonnie Brae--now the site of a '20s-era apartment building. Until she settled in LA permanently and built 2515 Wilshire, it seems she rented houses or stayed in hotels.....

Am I being

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Another of Effie's houses is this one seen on NLA before:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=11338

Martin Pal · #**19703** Posted **Feb 19, 2014, 10:20 PM**

Surely THE CROSSROADS OF THE WORLD must’ve been posted before now in this forum? I found several matter-of-fact mentions, as though everyone knows of it, but I don’t recall, nor have I found, to my surprise, any posts with photos. (The mentions were in relation to the architect’s other building, the Coca Cola building and about the place in proximity to other Sunset Blvd. locations.)

So, in case if you’ve seen any of these “selections” before, enjoy again:
Unless otherwise noted, photos from these two links HERE and HERE.

LAT
Grand Opening Ad in the Los Angeles Times, Oct. 29, 1936.

This is considered to be the first outdoor shopping mall in the United States.
It’s nautical design was themed to be like a ship coming into port and the stores
Representing the merchandise brought in from all over the world.

Three postcard views:

Jim Heimann Collection

http://www.martinturnbull.com/2012/1...d-sunset-blvd/

Day & Night:

A few details:

Crane's at Crossroads of the World, ca. 1937
Herman J. Schultheis Collection, LAPL

The “world” revolves atop its spire, but the machinery needed repairing in 2005, only the second time since 1936.

ICONIC:

Illustration on the album “America’s Greatest Hits”

Information booth entrance to Disney Studio Theme Park in Florida.

A cake celebrating the 50th Anniversary in 1986.

Danny DeVito’s Hush-Hush Magazine office in L.A. Confidential

RagTagDesign

Aerials

...remember, dear reader...it's all on the Q.T. and very hush-hush..."

Martin Pal · #**19704** Posted **Feb 19, 2014, 10:42 PM**

Ragtag, a design company, moved to Hollywood and posted this interesting noirish photo
captioned: “The view from our place.”

http://ragtagdesign.com/cross-roads-of-the-world/

They also put Crossroads of the World into very noirish territory with this item:

http://ragtagdesign.com/cross-roads-of-the-world/

Who knew?

A KCET article, with photos, about this:
http://www.kcet.org/socal/lost-crossroads.html

rcarlton briefly noted it:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=9584

And some noir induced photos of The Crossroads of the World by Alan M. Pavlik from “Dark Crossroads” on:
http://www.justabovesunset.com/20101...rossroads.html

Flyingwedge · #**19705** Posted **Feb 19, 2014, 11:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

posted earlier by Flyingwedge.
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I am surprised the rather large building between the Fremont Hotel and the Trenton is labeled 'Health Department'.
I thought this was the Olive Street School.
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Wow, good memory er!

Olive St. School building, c. 1920:

LAPL -- http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics13/00026015.jpg

The 1914 and 1921 Baist Maps show that property as the Health Department, but earlier maps, such as this 1906 Sanborn Map, confirm that it was the Olive Street School:

LAPL

1910 Baist Map; the future Sherwood Apts site on Grand is marked "Not Finished":

HistoricMapworks -- http://www.historicmapworks.com/Map/US/19472/Plate+007/

The Olive Street School is referred to as Board of Education property as late as 1922, so that "Health Department" label on the 1914 and 1921 Baist Maps could be incorrect:

Los Angeles Times, Oct 31, 1922

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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson

The lost foundations of 431 South Grand Avenue, ca.1910 (3)

A man test driving the Lansden Electric truck on Grand Avenue in Los Angeles. And one last look at our electric truck road test (I'm sure the grade was the point) passing the abandoned construction at 431 S. Grand Avenue. In this shot we get another glimpse of the Engstrum plus the added attraction of the spire on the State Normal School.

Southern California Edison Photographs and Negatives, Huntington Digital Archive

1888 Sanborn, west side of Grand between 4th and 5th:

LAPL

M. L. Wicks was trying to develop Port Ballona around this time and also apparently running out of money: http://bigorangelandmarks.blogspot.c...residence.html

1894 Sanborn, west side of Grand between 4th and 5th:

LAPL

Martin Pal · #**19706** Posted **Feb 19, 2014, 11:01 PM**

Have we seen this photo of the May Co. before? There’s two men standing on top of it.

LAPL

And I’ve never heard of this theater before, the Bay Theater, 15140 W. Sunset Boulevard. Grand Opening 1948. Showing The Paleface.

LAPL

Interior:

Cinema Treasures

15140 must be way out in Pacific Palisades or vicinity.
Converted to a double theatre in the 70’s; a hardware store in 1980.

Tourmaline · #**19707** Posted **Feb 20, 2014, 12:10 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

originally posted by Martin Pal

I dug up another view of that impressive MobilGas sign. Here's the opposite side...Cresta Blanca. or Bianca

old file of mine
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Cresta Blanca, another view. I'll drink to that! Note the annex.

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/vp19/...3_original.jpg

http://weimax.com/images/Cresta-Blanca_Sauterne_Ad.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...7CT54T5J5D.jpg

CityBoyDoug · #**19708** Posted **Feb 20, 2014, 2:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal

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Thank you Martin for this post. Most interesting.

My mother used to tell me about the days when she lived at the Blessed Sacrament Catholic Orphanage next door to the church and Cross Roads of the World. This was around 1930, after her mother had died of cancer.

I outlined the building with blue. I doubt that its still an orphanage. Her job was to prepare breakfast for the little ones each morning. One day she burnt the toast and the nuns were not happy. She was there for a year or so and then her father shipped her off to our relatives in Kansas. This was the Great Depression era and money was very tight. When she arrived in KS she gave the black Pullman Porter a 10 cent tip....after buying meals and such on the train, all she had left was 15 cents.

Sky F.

Martin Pal · #**19709** Posted **Feb 20, 2014, 5:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

anamorphic...panoramic....stereophonic...and George?

Trying to put various things together...in one search I found a newspaper blurb saying that with recent innovations in movie technology a stripper in Los Angeles billed herself as "anamorphic, panoramic, stereophonic and George." Another newspaper blurb with nearly the same info wrote it as "anamorphic, panoramic, stereophonic and real George." If, as suggested, these are all movie technology terms, could "George" refer to George Eastman and Eastmancolor, which was a print stock developed in the mid-50's arond this same time? I have no corroboration on this.

I was wondering what this meant:

SAM INCESSANT:
PLEASE WRITE!

Chuckaluck · #**19710** Posted **Feb 20, 2014, 5:55 AM**

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Citizens of Boyle Heights, with War Bonds, bought this Flying Fortress, shown poised for take-off to the battle front. Administrator Howard D. Mills of the Treasury Department's War Savings Staff, wishes the aircraft Godspeed, as Mr. and Mrs. Myer Pransky of Boyle Heights, look on.

January 14, 1943

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics21/00045417.jpg

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics21/00045466.jpg

Chuckaluck · #**19711** Posted **Feb 20, 2014, 6:06 AM**

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

NLA

More on the corner of Los Feliz and Hillhurst...

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1786

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1787

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1788

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13587

In 1951, this particular Derby was toast, char broiled or at least partially overcooked. (Could have sworn I'd seen it before, possibly on the NLA site, but search was inconclusive.)

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics48/00073822.jpg

Flyingwedge · #**19712** Posted **Feb 20, 2014, 7:33 AM**

I don't believe we've seen this photo here before. At first I thought it was taken from the Mayflower/Hilton Checkers Hotel, but that's obviously not tall enough. It was taken from the
Crocker Bank Building at 6th and Grand.

Fifth Street runs left to right across the bottom of the photo, and Grand Avenue runs top to bottom through the center of the photo. The roof decks on the Sunkist Building at lower
left look very nice. Was anyone here ever out on them?:

Huntington Digital Library -- http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou.../74799/rec/393

Zooming in a little closer, in the upper right corner is either Sinai or Olivet on Angel's Flight . . . at upper center are the Castle and Salt Box waiting to be relocated and torched . . .
and at left, at the end of what I guess is Upper North West 4th Street, is the Stuart K. Oliver house, the western end of which looks to be tilted down toward Flower Street:

And of course that's the Engstrum to the left of the Edison Building, with the Edison Annex just behind the Engstrum. The old brick building north of the annex is still there, too.

More on the Stuart K. Oliver house:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1314

http://onbunkerhill.org/georgemann#comment-350

P.S.

Well heck these two photos -- one of which I thought I saw posted here before but now I can't find it -- show part of Bunker Hill and were taken in December 1968, which I think was close
to when the photo above was taken. So why not put all three together in one post?

The intersection of Figueroa and 3rd is in the extreme lower right corner:

Los Angeles Fire Department Historical Society -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/lafdhs/...7626553445719/

At left, 6th Street forks into 6th and 5th as it crosses eastbound over the Harbor Freeway, and to the right of center Wilshire Blvd. crosses over the freeway by the Signal Building.
It looks like there's a building behind (north of) the Sunkist Building that is missing from the Huntington photo above, so I guess that photo is early 1969 (the Castle and Salt Box were
moved in March '69):

Los Angeles Fire Department Historical Society -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/lafdhs/...7626553445719/

Martin Pal · #**19713** Posted **Feb 20, 2014, 6:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by kznyc2k

LAPL

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8428

This is one photo from a great series of photos posted by kznyc2k in the above link detailing Pershing Square through the 30's & 40's. It is Carole Landis doing her part for the War Bond drive. My question is, does anyone know what those numerous things are stacked on the shelves on either side of her legs? They look like lunch boxes. Perhaps they were (war bond lunches?), but I am curious if anyone has the scoop?

MichaelRyerson · #**19714** Posted **Feb 20, 2014, 7:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

At left, 6th Street forks into 6th and 5th as it crosses eastbound over the Harbor Freeway, and to the right of center Wilshire Blvd. crosses over the freeway by the Signal Building.
It looks like there's a building behind (north of) the Sunkist Building that is missing from the Huntington photo above, so I guess that photo is early 1969 (the Castle and Salt Box were
moved in March '69):

Los Angeles Fire Department Historical Society -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/lafdhs/...7626553445719/

To fully appreciate the answer we've got to go here...

Bryson Block, 2nd and Spring Streets, 1905

Beautiful high resolution shot of the Bryson Block at 2nd and Spring Streets. Some loafers around the side of the building in the sun, an interesting little sidewalk business at street-level right on the corner and if you feel lucky, up in Pasadena they're having a chariot race, 1st prize is $1,000.00. In 1905, that's real money. About ten years earlier than this shot, Col. Holdridge Ozro Collins had his offices in Room (Suite) 59. Among his many endeavours Col. Collins was a founding member and the first president of the California Chapter of the Society of the Sons of the Revolution. And it was in his offices in Room (Suite) 59 that the Society held it's first meetings and established it's library, whose collection by 1900 would number 5,000 volumes. The Society went through a half dozen moves or more as their membership and collections grew. Finally, in the mid-late teens they began discussing the desirability (and the feasibility) of one day owning outright a freestanding building of their own. Enter Nathan Stowell...

Nathan Stowell, ca.1920

As an active member and enthusiastic supporter of the Society, Mr. Stowell saw his way clear to place at the Society's disposal a prime site of real estate located in the 'core of the central business district' and while one might quibble about where and what such a 'core' might be, one cannot dispute the appropriateness of what happened next. Described as a 'portion of Lot 1, Block T, in the Mott Tract, 44.5 feet frontage by 41 feet depth' and 'given on the condition that there be placed thereon "a fireproof building" suitable to the needs of the Society.'

We've all seen this great map before...(which I place at about 1930, note the Edison is still being annotated as a 'site')

Bunker Hill, ca.1930

The Sons are up and running at 437 S. Hope Street.

Someone posted this image the other day (I think it may have been you) It is an absolutely great shot...

Aerial looking northeast from approximately 5th and Hope Streets, 1930

We get just a peek of the Society of the Sons of the Revolution over the top of the Touraine (large dark building, lower/center with the peaked front cornice). There, next door, is a white, essentially square building with a decorative urn on the corner of the roofline...

I give you the only known (to me) shot of the front elevation of the California Chapter of the Society of the Sons of the Revolution (trumpets sounding)...

Sons of the Revolution, 437 South Hope Street, 1929

The Society constructed their building for about $25,000 and retired the underlying mortgage (construction loan, I'm assuming) in 1935. Free and clear, they did business at this location for many years, finally in 1964 the Society received notice of an eminent domain action and was forced to vacate sometime later (perhaps a couple of years) as part of the Bunker Hill redevelopment.

I believe this little white speck behind the Sunkist is the last image of the Sons of the Revolution on Hope Street. (Could be the name of a new rock group)

1968FireDept5th6thWilshire_zps65071903

Earl Boebert · #**19715** Posted **Feb 20, 2014, 8:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8428

This is one photo from a great series of photos posted by kznyc2k in the above link detailing Pershing Square through the 30's & 40's. It is Carole Landis doing her part for the War Bond drive. My question is, does anyone know what those numerous things are stacked on the shelves on either side of her legs? They look like lunch boxes. Perhaps they were (war bond lunches?), but I am curious if anyone has the scoop?

Square glass "piggy" bank to but your change in until you had enough to buy a bond.

Cheers,

Earl

Flyingwedge · #**19716** Posted **Feb 20, 2014, 9:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson

I give you the only known (to me) shot of the front elevation of the California Chapter of the Society of the Sons of the Revolution (trumpets sounding)...

Sons of the Revolution, 437 South Hope Street, 1929

Hey great story MR!