Future Canadian Skylines

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally Posted by dreambrother808

Novelty architecture? Point towers with townhouse podiums? No. You clearly aren't reading his posts, just parsing them and making assumptions as to his point of view based on where he is from.

Thanks but, I do read his posts. Point towers with townhouse podiums is a product of the Vancouverism ideologue that is centre around softening the urban experience through tower floorplates, towers distances, setbacks and sightlines to name a few. He has a thing for complex, inticate designs ( don't we all?) that are seldom pulled off well and sees the business end of development as an excuse.

[Coldrsx]

Originally Posted by dansk

Also, I believe the land to the north of Ice District is purchased for development as well. But as mentioned, the current development at the old CC Airport will be mixed residential low-rise for the most part.

Indeed, expect a couple thousand units of residential in a mixed use village there over the next decade or two.

[Skyisnolimit]

Originally Posted by dansk

Also, I believe the land to the north of Ice District is purchased for development as well. But as mentioned, the current development at the old CC Airport will be mixed residential low-rise for the most part.

Yes that area up to 106 ave will be high rise condos but its a good 4 years off.

[Metro-One]

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

Its Saint John, quite frankly anything would be good. They have built something like only a single private sector led project in the downtown in the last 20 years.

I agree with that, and I don't hate the building, but it is definitely not an exciting or interesting design either.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

I agree with that, and I don't hate the building, but it is definitely not an exciting or interesting design either.

I like the St John building. It is certainly not flashy, but once built it will look like it has been there for decades, which is not the worst thing.

[TorontoDrew]

It's totally a 1950s design. Looks solid but if it's prefab and not limestone why bother?

[dreambrother808]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Thanks but, I do read his posts. Point towers with townhouse podiums is a product of the Vancouverism ideologue that is centre around softening the urban experience through tower floorplates, towers distances, setbacks and sightlines to name a few. He has a thing for complex, inticate designs ( don't we all?) that are seldom pulled off well and sees the business end of development as an excuse.

Yes and he is a critic of most of what you have described when it is contextually-inappropriate. Nuance is key. He does see the business end of development as an excuse, and often it is, especially amongst those who would pretty much defend anything local.

[dleung]

Whippersnapper is only referring to "the business end of development" to justify why 8 of Toronto's last 8 office towers are and should be blue boxes. Debatable... but we're here to talk about architecture; that's why when yet another forumer brings up that cliche about Vancouver's "sea of blue/green glass" you'd never hear me bumbling about market forces and buyer preferences

But yeah, everything he said about sightlines, liveability, softening the public realm, etc, I'm a big fan. I laugh at those who fetishize Manhattan.

[caltrane74]

The last time Toronto tried a gimmick office tower we ended up with Brookfield Place.

Thanks, but no thanks, you can keep the wacky office towers out there if that's what you like.

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally Posted by dleung

Whippersnapper is only referring to "the business end of development" to justify why 8 of Toronto's last 8 office towers are and should be blue boxes. Debatable... but we're here to talk about architecture; that's why when yet another forumer brings up that cliche about Vancouver's "sea of blue/green glass" you'd never hear me bumbling about market forces and buyer preferences

But yeah, everything he said about sightlines, liveability, softening the public realm, etc, I'm a big fan. I laugh at those who fetishize Manhattan.

You're not here to talk about architecture. You're here to mock those that do not share your sensibilities. It's all over that post and every other post you have ever posted. You also completely miss the point of things likely out of indifference.



I'll make it as simple as possible. So what. They are 8 blue boxes. Some are mediocre and some are good. You want even better? It ain't coming from our large commercial developers or our largest corporations.

[DrNest]

Originally Posted by caltrane74

The last time Toronto tried a gimmick office tower we ended up with Brookfield Place.

Thanks, but no thanks, you can keep the wacky office towers out there if that's what you like.

I must be one of the few people that actually really likes Brookfield Place.

[Alegan]

Originally Posted by DrNest

I must be one of the few people that actually really likes Brookfield Place.

I like Brookfield Place too! Always have

[TorontoDrew]

Originally Posted by dleung

I laugh at those who fetishize Manhattan.

Give me Manhattan over sight lines any day.

[TorontoDrew]

Originally Posted by DrNest

I must be one of the few people that actually really likes Brookfield Place.

It's probably one of my favorite PoMo office buildings in the country. I don't like it's twin so much though.

[caltrane74]

I laugh at those who fetishize Manhattan.

So who don't you laugh at then? hmmmmm...

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by caltrane74

So who don't you laugh at then? hmmmmm...

Me!

[TorontoDrew]

To kind of show how these skylines have changed over the past 15 years I made a quick list. I wonder how many future renders we've seen now?

Since the boom started in Vancouver (Then spread east) in 2000 till now, a 400ft and up list of built or U/C by city.

@ 900ft or less
Toronto - 3

@ 800ft or less
Calgary - 1
Edmonton - 1
Toronro - 3

@ 700ft or less
Calgary - 3
Edmonton - 1
Toronto - 10

@ 600ft or less
Vancouver - 2
Burnaby - 3
Calgary - 5
Edmonton - 2
Toronto - 27

@ 500ft or less
Vancouver - 4
Burnaby - 4
Surrey - 1
Calgary - 10
Edmonton - 2
Niagara Falls -1
Mississauga - 3
Toronto - 56
Montreal - 1

@400ft or less
Vancouver - 16
Burnaby - 5
Surrey -1
Calgary - 15
Edmonton - 4
Niagara Falls - 1
Mississauga - 7
Toronto - 116
Ottawa - 1
Montreal - 4

[Gresto]

caltrane, your new avatar and signature line are almost as insufferable as the previous one with the heinous chick.

[caltrane74]

Guy you know I'm in love with Kylie Jenner..

[DrNest]

Originally Posted by Gresto

caltrane, your new avatar and signature line are almost as insufferable as the previous one with the heinous chick.

So long as he doesn't change it to Kanye West, I won't complain.