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Old Posted Aug 29, 2016, 2:37 PM
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What drives Florida growth? What is in Florida that is creating jobs and makes people want to move there?
Growth.
Growth fuels growth. Until there is no more.
It's basically a giant Ponzi scheme.
But with alligators and hurricanes.
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I was in LIC today visiting a job site, and holy dog shit... there are more construction workers than normal people walking the street. If you don't believe me, take a visit down this week; during lunch time. Bad news is that many roads are blocked and its traffic hell.

But yeah on the city population, I have a feeling it will be 8.60 million by the end of 2016. I think it's already past that. If we count the illegal population, its at 9 million already. I'm still salivating for a Daytime population study for various U.S. cities. There was one by NYU in 2012, but I haven't seen one as detailed as that report in terms of day time population dynamics for the region.

DoBro has the pedestrian density of midtown. It's quite incredible on the street. Especially Flatbush Avenue.
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I drove from Rockaway to downtown brooklyn the other day, taking Flatbush the whole way back.

amazed at the density and pedestrian congestion around Brooklyn college. basically all the way from avenue J to prospect park was hopping.

between flatbush and ave j, and the beaches seems like a great place for new highrises/infill, if they could build an express subway out there.
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between flatbush and ave j, and the beaches seems like a great place for new highrises/infill, if they could build an express subway out there.
They've actually been talking about that for 60 years. It's almost as ridiculous a delay as the 2nd Ave. subway.

DeBlasio supports extending the 3/4 trains down to Kings Plaza, so we'll see. The entire Flatbush/Utica corridor desperately needs the subway, down to the ocean.
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I always find odd that for a city as rich as NY is such a struggle to build new transit lines. I wonder if there's the chance in NY of having something similar as a half cent tax for new transit projects as in LA. Would that be possible in NY or not?

Also, if you can have the posibility of building 50 km of new subway lines, what would be your priorities? (Additional of the second avenue subway from 125th st in Harlem to Hannover sq in downtown, so you already have the second ave subway as it is being built and planned PLUS 50 km / 30miles more)
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Hard pass on the half cent tax increase. NYC taxes are already high enough, and the city has a $82.1 Billion budget for 2016, which would put it behind only the states of California, New York, Texas, Washington, Florida and Illinois. The city has plenty of money.

What's worse is projects are always way over budget and completed years behind schedule: WTC Transit Hub, East Side Access, Second Ave Subway, Fulton St, 7 Train extension, the list goes on. Until the city/MTA can prove that they actually know how to build something for a reasonable price, and deliver it on schedule, they should not get any more money. I'm genuinely interested if any other New Yorkers disagree with that sentiment btw.

As for where new train lines should go, outside of the SAS and a 125th crosstown line, the boroughs are severely underserved by the subway, and should get a bulk of the new lines in this scenario.
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Also, if you can have the posibility of building 50 km of new subway lines, what would be your priorities? (
I would put a second North Brooklyn line and another crosstown Queens line ahead of any other priorities. The L train is insanely overcrowded and lacks express tracks. In Queens, the 7 and the Queens Blvd. lines are both ridiculous.

It's really North Brooklyn/Queens that needs new capacity the most. You have former empty industrial areas that are now just jammed with commuters, with far more development to come. Manhattan, most of Brooklyn, and the Bronx are at least tolerable in terms of capacity (esp. once Second Avenue Subway is fully completed).

There's a proposal for converting one of the Queens LIRR surface lines to subway. That may be a cheaper/easier solution than digging tunnels for new lines. But North Brooklyn will need something run underground, eventually. I cannot imagine a Williamsburg in 2050 without another crosstown line.

Also, the MTA isn't underfunded, it has the largest budget of any metropolitan rail agency on the planet. The current capitol plan (basically the plan for current new starts/renovations) is something like $30 billion, yet barely funds anything outside of a few new miles of track and a few new stations. The problem is that everything costs too damn much. Too many regulations, bureaucratic layers, salaries are ridiculous.

The MTA spent nearly $1 billion on a single subway station renovation, with no added capacity (Fulton Center). Then the Port Authority spent $5 billion on essentially a replacement subway station (new WTC transit center). Flood-protecting a single subway station (South Ferry) is costing nearly a half-billion. The new LIRR route to Grand Central is costing, what, $15 billion? All for a new substation at Grand Central, a new station in Queens, and a few miles of tunnel. Second Avenue is costing $2 billion+ a mile. There has to be a better way.

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People Fled the Bronx in the 1970s. Now Its Population Is Booming.

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The Bronx is surging.

The borough, which lost one in five residents during the 1970s when it was afflicted by high crime and arson fires, has not only recouped its population loss but also appears to have surpassed its historic peak, according to new census projections.

An influx of immigrants helped boost the borough’s population to 1.455 million as of July 1, 2015, according to the United States Census Bureau. At the annual rate the Bronx has been growing since 2010, about 1 percent, the highest of any county in the state, that would place the current total ahead of the high of 1.472 million in 1970, demographers agree.

And Queens, already a polyglot mix of residents from every corner of the globe, is growing ever more diverse. Nearly half, or about 48 percent, of the population of Queens is foreign-born, ranking the borough second only to Miami-Dade in Florida (with nearly 53 percent) among larger American counties in the share of residents from abroad. One-fourth of Queens residents come from Asia.

The latest figures from the bureau’s American Community Survey and other estimates also confirm that New York City’s total population has exceeded 8.5 million, the highest it has ever been.

In the Bronx, a housing boom has contributed to the population comeback.

A recent report by the New York Building Congress found that the Bronx accounted for nearly 32 percent of building permits issued by mid-2016, compared with an annual average of 11 percent between 2011 and 2015. The Bronx led all five of the city’s boroughs in the number of homes and apartments authorized for construction, with 1,926.

Over 50,000 more people are employed in the Bronx this year than five years ago, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
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1926 new units and that leads the city? New construction has slowed down a lot in the city.
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1926 new units and that leads the city? New construction has slowed down a lot in the city.
Because the 421a tax benefit is locked in a stalemate in Albany. Developers won't file until it's resolved.
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New York City’s population projected to exceed 9 million by 2040, an increase of 500K

BY ERIN DURKIN
November 1, 2016


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Relentless growth fueled by immigration, people arriving from other parts of the country and more residents simply staying put will push an already swelling population past the 9 million mark in the decade beginning 2030.

The growth rate — similar to the average increase of 75,054 between 2010 and 2015 — is forcing city leaders and policy experts to confront how to house, transport, and school another half million people.

“New York City is a magnet for people from all around the world,” Mitchell Moss, director of NYU’s Rudin Center for Transportation, told the News Tuesday. “We have a problem that is based on our success.”

The population, which was at 8.55 million last year, is projected to reach 9.03 million by 2040 at the latest.

Since 1990, the city has added another 1.2 million people, and in 2011 the city for the first time in decades saw more people move in than move out, according to census data.


Subways are already at their highest ridership level since the 1940s, but the number of annual trips through the Metropolitan Transportation Authority system is projected to reach 3.1 billion by 2030, up from 2.7 billion today, according to an MTA report.

According to the 2013 projections, the Bronx is expected to grow the fastest, 14% between 2010 and 2040, an increase of 194,000 people. Brooklyn's population was projected to grow 11%.

For Manhattan, Queens, and Staten Island, the highest level of growth is projected to be in the 2010-2020 period, with growth slowing thereafter

Moss said the city still has plenty of room to fit a growing population, with its “special genius” at creating residential neighborhoods where they didn’t previously exist, like Manhattan’s far West Side and the Williamsburg and Greenpoint waterfront.

“There are vast areas of the city that have potential for more housing,” Moss said, citing Red Hook and the Atlantic Ave. corridor in Brooklyn and several parts of the Bronx.

The city's total number of housing units, which was 3,375,000 in 2010, is projected to increase to 3,696,000 by 2040, according to 2013 city projections.

But the challenges don’t end there, and will include making sure the city’s roads and mass transit are up to the task.

That may require expanding the capacity of subway cars, which the MTA is working on now, and bolstering alternate forms of transportation like ferries and modernized bus systems.

“It’s abundantly clear that the transit system we have today cannot support the ridership that it has today,” said Rich Barone, vice president for transportation at Regional Plan Association. “We have to be looking at the surface as well, the streets. Street space needs to be rethought in a way that doesn’t just focus on providing capacity for automobiles. Instead it needs to focus on people, on cyclists and transit.”

Mayor de Blasio, who spoke at a Crain’s New York Business breakfast on preparations for the population surge Tuesday, says the city will need to be taller, denser, and conquer neighborhood fears that development will force locals out.

“It’s true there are types of development that can exacerbate inequality and reduce inclusion. There’s also types of development that can increase inclusion, that can open up opportunity. And we have to have a good and clear conversation about what the difference is,” he said.

For Crain’s, experts and developers dreamed up ambitious ideas like using existing track beds to allow light-rail commuter lines and commercial development, building a suspended tram line encircling the five boroughs and parts of New Jersey, or shrinking city highways to take advantage of advent of self-driving cars and get more space for development.

The mayor has faced resistance in neighborhoods around the city to his construction plans, and said the opposition, while understandable, is wrong-headed.

“The notion of locking things down the way they are ... the danger in that is it bakes in inequality. It doubles down on inequality,” he said. “If you believe in an inclusive city, we have to create affordable housing. And the only way we get affordable housing is through development.”

De Blasio pointed to a rezoning near Grand Central, which allowed a developer to build a 63-story skyscraper in exchange for paying more than $200 million for transit improvements.

“We need height and density if we’re going to be able to create the city of tomorrow and to address a lot of our underlying needs. But look at how much the public got back in that equation,” he said. “We need people to be able to see in very tangible terms how that pathway to 9 million people can be good for them.”

Meanwhile, in the latest test of the mayor’s ambitious building plans, the City Council struck a deal to approve a proposed housing and commercial tower in downtown Brooklyn.

The Willoughby Street project will shrink to 44 stories from the 49 originally proposed by developer Savanna Properties under the deal with Councilman Steve Levin (D-Brooklyn). It’s set to have 203 apartments, 61 of them with restricted rents under new mandatory inclusionary housing rules, in addition to retail and office space.

“I look forward to seeing more mixed use projects in downtown Brooklyn and making a thriving downtown,” Levin said.

The Council’s zoning subcommittee voted to approve the project along with two others in the Bronx under the affordable housing rules.






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LOL. Just right after DeBlasio says the city needs to be taller and denser, Councilcritter Levin boasts about shrinking the Willoughby project.



And don't you just love how they would include pictures of Fifth Ave and a crowded subway when there are literally thousands of other streets where there are hardly anybody walking and subways where there aren't many people on them.
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The Times had a story this morning I think on the three possible alignments of the BQX light rail, which thankfully is being considered using dedicated lanes. People will lament the reduced lanes for traffic but the whole waterfront from Red Hook to Astoria is booming and is only likely to become more dense. Right now it is so difficult to travel between where I live in Astoria (near the park) to anywhere in Brooklyn south of Williamsburg (I'm a 20 minute bike ride to Greenpoint & W'burg via the Pulaski Bridge) and that is really unacceptable.
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It doesn't matter. The Growth Machine is too powerful. NYC will hit 9 million by 2027.
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The Times had a story this morning I think on the three possible alignments of the BQX light rail, which thankfully is being considered using dedicated lanes. People will lament the reduced lanes for traffic but the whole waterfront from Red Hook to Astoria is booming and is only likely to become more dense. Right now it is so difficult to travel between where I live in Astoria (near the park) to anywhere in Brooklyn south of Williamsburg (I'm a 20 minute bike ride to Greenpoint & W'burg via the Pulaski Bridge) and that is really unacceptable.
On the back of your comment about BQX, Crains article, "De Blasio says more streetcars and ferries could be on the way." The L Train shutdown should be used as a pilot for a streetcar in Manhattan across 14th Street. Realistically, pretty much all major East West streets in Manhattan should have street cars.
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Who are these jokers lamenting the loss of traffic lanes in exchange for dedicated ROW for rail?
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LOL. Just right after DeBlasio says the city needs to be taller and denser, Councilcritter Levin boasts about shrinking the Willoughby project.



And don't you just love how they would include pictures of Fifth Ave and a crowded subway when there are literally thousands of other streets where there are hardly anybody walking and subways where there aren't many people on them.

The point is that the streets people do walk on (obviously a reason for it) are already crowded. Adding more to that mix won't make it more noticeably crowded. But I don't think anyone who rides and depends on the subway would have to point out to you how crowded the system already is with limited space and resources.

Of course the city can absorb more, it just has to ensure that things don't become overloaded to the point that it's a victim of its own success.
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421a is back on the table. That will help the construction of housing units. Many which are needed to meet the demand.
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CIA, to follow up on your question, if the BQX route down 21st street is chosen (probably the most logical considering the F train stop at Queensbridge), the entire character of the street will change. Right now it's a horrible mess: lots of double parking, tons of taxi traffic coming off of or heading onto the Queensboro Bridge, which I assume would shift west to Vernon Blvd, and many bus lines use 21st Street to connect LIC with Astoria, Jackson Heights, and Flushing. But there is also a boom of mid to high rise apartments and condos on the street, which has surprised me because frankly, it's a pretty ugly street.
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In two months time, the Census Bureau will issue population estimates as of July 1, 2016. It should be a safe bet that NYC's numbers will exceed 8.6 million people.

From 2014-2015, the population growth was ~55k, and that's been consistent every year since the last census.

Anyone have any other ideas?
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