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Originally Posted by Crawford
I stand corrected....I didn't know there was net decline during the 70's and 80's.
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I appreciate this acknowledgment. I know you never intended to misinform, but it has been very frustrating to see incorrect assertions spread and get repeated so often over the years. Hopefully we can just point forumers to this thread in the future, if need be. Anyway, moving on.
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But the larger point stands. The overall trends show that Detroit has the same or higher population growth than all the other major cities in the region. I was wrong in the decennial trends, but the overall patterns stand.
There's no reason to ignore, downplay, or deny. But there's also no reason to single out. Why is Detroit singled out when other major cities have worse population decline?
If you want to point out cities on the basis of population loss, why wouldn't you point out those metros that have the worst population loss? Why would you instead point out those which have very bad, but not the worst loss?
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Detroit city is the actual subject of this thread. The metro stuff is always introduced by hudkina as a means to divert attention from Detroit's decline--not that the metro is growing, but whatever.
Detroit is second only to St. Louis in percentage of population decline from peak, according to
Wikipedia:
City, State -- Percent population decline since peak
St. Louis, Missouri -- 62.7%
Detroit, Michigan -- 61.4%
Youngstown, Ohio -- 60.6%
Cleveland, Ohio -- 56.6%
Gary, Indiana -- 55%
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania -- 54.8%
Buffalo, New York -- 53.4%
Niagara Falls, New York -- 51%
Scranton, Pennsylvania -- 46.9%
Dayton, Ohio -- 46.1%
New Orleans, Louisiana -- 45.2%
Flint, Michigan -- 43.4%
Cincinnati, Ohio -- 41.1%
Utica, New York -- 38.8% *
Camden, New Jersey -- 37.9%
Birmingham, Alabama -- 37.7%
Canton, Ohio -- 37.6%
Newark, New Jersey -- 37.3% *
Rochester, New York -- 36.7%
Baltimore, Maryland -- 34.6%
Akron, Ohio -- 34.5%
Syracuse, New York -- 34.2%
Trenton, New Jersey -- 33.7%
Hartford, Connecticut -- 30.1% *
Providence, Rhode Island -- 29.6% *
Hammond, Indiana -- 27.6%
Albany, New York -- 27.5% *
Minneapolis, Minnesota -- 26.7%
Erie, Pennsylvania -- 26.5%
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania -- 26.3% *
Chicago, Illinois -- 25.6%
Toledo, Ohio -- 25.2%
Washington, D.C. -- 25% *
South Bend, Indiana -- 23.6%
Boston, Massachusetts -- 22.9% *
Jersey City, New Jersey -- 21.8% *
New Haven, Connecticut -- 21.1% *
Reading, Pennsylvania -- 20.8% *
* Grew between 2000 and 2010
I've said what I care to regarding Detroit's metropolitan decline, but I did try to find a similar chart for metro areas. I couldn't find one. Anybody?