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Old Posted Jul 27, 2010, 11:13 PM
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I always thought that it would be a good idea to put that gold globe statue back in the center of the plaza, just where it used to be. I think everyone remembers that well.
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Old Posted Jul 28, 2010, 2:08 PM
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Pic by Sal Schiano over at WNY.


The 18000 will be putting that thing up soon. It's a continuation of one of the big plate girders over the PATH station.
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NEW YORK -- Plank by plank, archeologists on Monday began the delicate process of dismantling a section of an 18th century ship that was found buried across the street from the World Trade Center site.

Each plank will be freeze-dried so that the fragmentary hull can eventually be reassembled and put on display, said Nichole Doub, head conservator for the Maryland Archeological Conservation Laboratory.

The 32-foot section of the nameless vessel was found earlier this month as workers were excavating for the rebuilt World Trade Center's parking garage.

The archeologists who carefully began taking it apart said they were thrilled by the historic find.

"This is my first ship. I've been doing archeology in New York City for almost 30 years," said Diane Dallal, director of archeology for AKRF, an environmental, engineering and planning consulting firm that is working on the project.

The section of the ship lay bathed in water and shielded from the sun by a tarp strung up on poles. Doub said the timber has to be kept wet or it will warp.

Each plank was labeled so conservators will know its precise location in the wreckage. The members of the conservation team then picked up each plank, measured it and wrapped it in layers of moisture-preserving insulation. The process of dismantling the ship was expected to take two to four days.

Debris found under the timbers gets placed on a screen and hosed off. The water-screening process, which evokes images of prospectors panning for gold, is the best way to separate artifacts from the mud they were buried in, Dallal said. Items like coins and buttons could yield clues to the ship's past, she said.

Historians believe the ship had been junked by the time it was used around 1810 as landfill to extend the shores of lower Manhattan. The ship's exact age will be determined by lab analysis.

Warren Riess, a historian at the University of Maine whose specialty is 18th-century ships, said the buried fragment appeared to be the ship's bow. "It's probably something that was like a coastal schooner or brigantine or sloop," he said.

Riess said the ship likely sailed from New York to Boston or to Virginia or Barbados carrying goods such as flour, bricks or hay.

"A merchant ship, a jack of all trade - that's my first guess," he said. "It's the kind of ship that made New York, when you think about it."

The ship was found partially intact because the dirt it was buried in preserved it. Riess said the ship is an important find because no one would have bothered to save such a commonplace vessel 200 years ago. "Nobody wrote about it, nobody made drawings of it," he said.

The discovery of the ship's rotting timbers 20 feet below street level in a spot surrounded by office towers suggests Manhattan's long history as a hub of commerce.

"The Dutch set it up as a trading post and what is it today?" Riess said. "It's the world's biggest, greatest trading post, isn't it?"

(Copyright ©2010 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
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The 18000 will be putting that thing up soon. It's a continuation of one of the big plate girders over the PATH station.
whats the weight on something that size!!!
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Old Posted Jul 28, 2010, 9:24 PM
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<Zen whips out his calculator>

Let's see at 40.83 pounds per square foot per inch of thickness . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . about 70 tons or 63,500 kg.
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What does a $3.2 billion train station look like? An animated rendering offers New Yorkers a taste of how the sleek Santiago Calatrava-designed transit hub at the World Trade Center site will come together in 2014, when the huge project is slated for completion.

So i tried to embed the videos in here but it didn't quiet go the way i though it would so instead just click on the links to watch the videos

WATCH IT HERE


Fox 5 Ground Zero Tour

WATCH IT HERE
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Old Posted Jul 30, 2010, 6:28 AM
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Finally got around to uploading the video. It gives a really good account of the connection from the Fulton St transit center all the way to the World Financial Center...

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Old Posted Jul 31, 2010, 12:54 AM
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I'm willing to bet money this thing is going to be installed tomorrow ! (Saturday, July 31st) If anyone can get down there and take some pics and/or video you would be our Hero ! I would go there myself but the wife and I have a wedding to go to. ( No, the bride's name is not Chelsea.)
Pic by Sal Schiano over at WNY.


Just a few facts about the section of plate girder. It's 7 feet high almost 6 feet wide, I already posted the estimated weight, and it's about 50 feet long. The Calatrava archs well hang from it, as can already bee seen on the earthcam. It is covered in shear studs because it well be tied to the plaza level slab and a re-enforced concrete thrust beam . (The holes in the web stiffiner plates are for rebar to pass through.)

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OK, the earthcam shows the 18000 and the girder positioned for the lift. I think they well wait tell morning to actually lift it into position. After the last morning train on the PATH around 8:30am.

I hit the refresh on the cam, and the girder is hooked up and off the ground. Looks like they well not wait tell morning. 12:50am local time
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where is the 1wtc entrance on the way to the wfc in that video?
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Old Posted Jul 31, 2010, 6:33 PM
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That 18000 is amazing. Look at the stretch out on that thing. I had no clue they would put the beam on using that thing. Wow.
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Finally got around to uploading the video. It gives a really good account of the connection from the Fulton St transit center all the way to the World Financial Center...

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That's gonna look so amazing. It looks like the next Grand Central Station! And by that I mean, it's gonna be a masterpiece like Grand Central is.
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Lower Manhattan residents eye untapped Sept. 11 utility funds
Community may access money meant for infrastructure; Con Ed holding firm

By Jeremy Smerd

Shortly after sept. 11, Congress earmarked $750 million to help cover the cost of rebuilding the city's utilities infrastructure downtown. Almost nine years later, more than $200 million remains unspent, and residents say they—not the utilities—should be entitled to use the money for projects meant to bring the neighborhood around Ground Zero back to life.

The board of the Lower Manhattan Development Corp. appeared to side with residents last week when it voted to lift the restrictions on the remaining money.

A HOST OF GOOD PROJECTS
Last Thursday's vote means the money could be used not only to compensate utilities but also to pay for World Trade Center memorial and cultural facilities, affordable housing, economic development, transportation, and other quality-of-life improvements.

The public now has 60 days to comment on the proposal, which has put the utilities on the defensive. Another vote would be needed to appropriate the funds for specific uses.

“It's the first step in what will result in a very large amount of funding going to the lower Manhattan community, and that's what Congress intended,” says Julie Menin, an LMDC board member and the chairman of Community Board 1.

Ms. Menin says that the money should already have been invested in the community and that the LMDC was remiss in allowing millions of dollars to languish for so long. The LMDC, created after Sept. 11 to distribute more than $2.7 billion in federal grants, has the legal authority to use the remaining $212.5 million for projects in the neighborhood, rather than rebuilding the utilities infrastructure, she says.
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where is the 1wtc entrance on the way to the wfc in that video?
After about 25 seconds, you begin to see it on the right...
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The museum seems destined to become one of the most remarkable memorial structures in America.

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The entire museum will be a total of seven stories, all below ground; inside, still dwarfed by the space, there will be a fire truck preserved from Ground Zero; a "trident" column from the exterior of one of the Twin Towers; the 58-ton, 36-foot-tall "Last Column," which was the final beam removed during the site cleanup; and the "Survivor's Staircase," which was used by everyone who escaped the towers on 9/11.

...Upon entering the museum, visitors will rise in the shadows of two tridents taken from the Twin Towers' facade--at about 1/20th of the original height of the towers, they're the museum's first stark reminder of the mind-boggling scale of the tragedy.

...Visitors will then pass a number of impressionistic exhibits designed by Thinc design with multi-media by Local Projects, which evoke the experience of 9/11 around the world--which more than 2 billion people saw on TV

...After those initial galleries, visitors then walk down a 5% slope that's so gentle it's hardly noticeable. Walking through a darkened hall, they get glimpse of the enormity of the space--until finally coming to an overlook at the main gallery, which is dominated by the Last Column.

...Visitors will then descend into the main gallery via a stair right next to the remains of the Survivor's Staircase, which was just recently put into place:

...Looming above the galleries will be the recessed footprints of the 9/11 memorial pools. As reminders of the tower footprints, they'll be clad in crushed, recycled aluminum and brightly lit, so that inside the space, they become ghostly and almost diaphanous:

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Another indicator of the scale of the Twin Towers: That rusted behemoth you see is one small section of the TV antennae that once topped them]


An indicator of the immense height of the gallery, which is six stories tall at some points. The hole you see above is temporary, and has been used to haul in the massive artifacts and construction materials contained inside


At one end of the main gallery, visitors will be able to see a preserved excavation of the original columns that bolted the Twin Towers to bedrock
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Another element to the World Financial Center connection...

http://tribecatrib.com/news/2010/aug...y-objects.html
Brookfield Plans to Demolish Winter Garden Stairs; City Objects



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The World Financial Center’s owners, Brookfield Properties, are planning to knock down the grand marble staircase in the Winter Garden in Battery Park City, according to documents obtained by the Trib.

The demolition would be part of the reconstruction of the eastern side of the Winter Garden to accommodate a pedestrian tunnel that will connect the World Trade Center transportation hub to Battery Park City. Brookfield intends to overhaul much of the retail space inside the Winter Garden where it meets the tunnel.

The semicircular staircase was rebuilt with exquisite care after its destruction on Sept. 11, 2001.

Earlier this year, Brookfield proposed removing the stairs, reopening the pedestrian view of the Winter Garden and outdoor pavilion immediately upon exiting the connector tunnel, an experience lost in the destruction of the footbridge that once connected the atrium and the World Trade Center. New escalators would be installed on the east end of the atrium to account for the loss of access to the second level.

After Planning Commissioner Amanda Burden panned the preliminary designs in a June 23 letter to the company, Brookfield chairman John Zuccotti defended the plan, saying that the 88-foot-wide, 15-foot-high wall supporting the stairs were a “significant physical and visual barrier” and would be “a major inconvenience” for pedestrians exiting the tunnel into the atrium.

“[Keeping the stairs] would require people to maneuver around the wall as they enter the Winter Garden from the new transit center, creating choke points and...severely limiting the flow of traffic,” Zuccotti said in his letter. “Our proposal removes the wall and the steps, restoring the unobstructed view of the Winter Garden and river beyond.”


In her letter to Zuccotti, Burden was firmly critical of Brookfield’s intent to eliminate the staircase, noting that it would “create a significant void” in the Winter Garden, noting both their physical dominance of the space and their practical worth to atrium visitors.

We think it highly questionable as to whether there is a compelling rationale for removing the stairs, which are used by a broad range of people throughout the day, seven days a week,” Burden wrote.

In a subsequent letter to Community Board 1 chairwoman Julie Menin, Burden called Brookfield’s defense of its design “tepid.” Menin said Brookfield representatives had agreed to meet with the Battery Park City Committee in September, and that she was hopeful that company could be convinced to preserve the stairs.

“[Brookfield] knows how important that Winter Garden staircase is to our community, and the symbolism it has for us,” she said.

Today, visitors climb the staircase to reach the expanse of windows that overlook the Trade Center site and the stairs are used by workers on their way to offices in the Financial Center. The stairs also are often used for seating during performances. Over time, some Battery Park City residents and workers say they’ve also come to think of the staircase as a symbol of Lower Manhattan’s resilience in the aftermath of the attacks.
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Construction continues on the National September 11 Memorial and Museum, below, Tuesday, Aug. 10, 2010, in New York. Construction cranes work above One World Trade Center, rear, also known as the Freedom Tower. (AP Photo/Mark Lennihan)
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I'm with the city on this one; hopefully those stairs stay.
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Makes little sense to demolish a fixture of the Winter Garden that was restored after 9/11. Hopefully an alternative plan will be found.
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