noirish Los Angeles

[odinthor]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

p.s. I forgot to mention there are murals of dubious quality in the tunnel.


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In Quieter Times


calishpere

I just came across this 1949 photo earlier this afternoon.

"David Fraser and Alice and Helen Flint visit the "Oak of Golden Dream" in Placerita Canyon."

PEACEFUL.

Thanks for this and the earlier posting, e_r!

I wonder if the wild onions which were the handmaiden to finding the gold still grow nearby...? When I visit the oak, my eyes will be darting about looking for wild onions . . .

[odinthor]

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

Well Odin, I want to announce that I must to be on that pre-order publication list.

Your name now leads the (very short) list!

[LA Kitty Kat]

Odinthor

Me too, me too!

[odinthor]

Originally Posted by LA Kitty Kat

Odinthor

Me too, me too!

Golly--thanks so much! It starts . . . with a house burning down . . .

This novel has been on ice for quite a while; but somehow I'm being overtided with inspiration these days, on both this and other projects. Huh! Maybe I'll actually get something done.

[Flyingwedge]

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA

ETA: It's definitely from the Observatory. I'll find a current pic.
...and here's a pic(from my b-day hike):
20180121_170945_glendale_facebook by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr

This was shot on the trail just below the observatory, but the view is pretty much the same.

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

EBAY

Original Slide, View Overlooking Los Angeles, c. 1945
Mount/Film Type: 35mm Kodachrome film, remounted from glass mount to plastic mount

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Thanks for posting the ebay pic, e_r (is that John Marshall High School at the extreme left center edge?),
and thanks for IDing the location and adding your photo, Bill.

In e_r's photo, the house at the bottom, directly below the watermarked green n is 2501 N. Catalina St.
at Glencairn Road, as seen below:



Google


Here's a photo taken from almost the same spot as e_r's photo, but a few years earlier and a little more toward
the east. At lower right, above the round photographer's stamp, is N. Catalina Street (but 2501 is just out of view
to the right). Catalina ends at Glendower Ave., the curvy street that rises up out of the caption at the bottom.
The home in the ebay pic to the left of the watermarked green e is just below center in this image (and also at
the extreme edge above the lower left corner in Bill's photo):



UCLA/Islandora

[BillinGlendaleCA]

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

In e_r's photo, the house at the bottom, directly below the watermarked green n is 2501 N. Catalina St.
at Glencairn Road, as seen below:



Google

That house(I initially thought it might be a church on Los Feliz) was one of the things that made me sure it was from the Observatory. I'll admit I didn't notice John Marshall High, good catch. The other thing that made me question the Baldwin Hills ID is I was up there last Monday taking pictures. Here's the view from the southern portion of the Baldwin Hills:

_3050339-HDR.jpg by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA

_3050339-HDR.jpg by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr

If you look closely at this photo you can see a hawk, high in the sky at about the top middle of this great photo. Thanks Bill

[59imperial]

On YouTube I was watching an episode of Top of the Pops that was aired on 2/27/69 and they were showing a promotional film of Glen Campbell's Wichita Lineman. At about midway through the film we see Glen and an actress standing on the front porch of the Hale House approximately a year before it was moved to Heritage Square. Has anyone seen the house make an appearance on any movie or tv show prior to it being moved? [IMG]Untitled by houseoftomorrow, on Flickr[/IMG]

[oldstuff]

The picture of the malt shop may not be the address that it seems to be. The building in the picture does not have the right papapet on the front. There is also a jog in the wall of the malt shop building, which goes in about 3-4 feet and the footprint of the current building does not have that. The county assessor's office says that this particular building was built in 1958, after the building in the photo. They may have re-numbered the street at some point or the actual number is 12805. Another possibility is 12605 but I cannot confirm that since my computer is displaying that address with a big black blob in front of it. GRRRR!

OK, now the blob has gone away and it confirms that 12605 is not a possibility, unless they have torn down the malt shop and built a strip of those storefronts with angled entrances that were popular in the 1940's/1950's

[oldstuff]

Originally Posted by Lorendoc

The 1946 Burbank City Directory helps here:

Marcia Ruth Beauty Shoppe 2206 N Hollywood Way
H B Clark's Barber Shop 2004 N Hollywood Way
Brawley Drug 2000 N Hollywood Way

e_r's picture was taken from Victory Blvd, just west of N Hollywood Way, looking NE.
Surprisingly the building at the NE corner of North Hollywood Way and Victory Blvd is still standing:


GSV

My mother worked for a time in the tiny real estate building on the corner as a secretary for Harry White who built a lot of houses in that area of Burbank. The corner where the little building once stood is now a Petco, a party store and some other things.

[Beaudry]

Originally Posted by 59imperial

On YouTube I was watching an episode of Top of the Pops that was aired on 2/27/69 and they were showing a promotional film of Glen Campbell's Wichita Lineman. At about midway through the film we see Glen and an actress standing on the front porch of the Hale House approximately a year before it was moved to Heritage Square. Has anyone seen the house make an appearance on any movie or tv show prior to it being moved? [IMG]Untitled by houseoftomorrow, on Flickr[/IMG]

How cool! Never seen the Hale House in the flickers.

Pertinent to the topic, though, is the contemporary cameos of the Castle & Salt Box, also destined for Heritage Square (with less beneficial result) in this episode of The Outsider .

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by oldstuff

My mother worked for a time in the tiny real estate building on the corner as a secretary for Harry White who built a lot of houses in that area of Burbank.
The corner where the little building once stood is now a Petco, a party store and some other things.

oldstuff, so you're talking about this little building? (see below / above the red arrow)


1945 slide/ detail

If so, that's pretty cool. (I hadn't noticed it earlier)

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[ethereal_reality]

"Francisco Lopez pulled wild onions near an oak tree on his Placerita Canyon Ranch and found gold nuggets caught in their roots."

Originally Posted by odinthor

I wonder if the wild onions which were the handmaiden to finding the gold still grow nearby...?
When I visit the oak, my eyes will be darting about looking for wild onions . . .

lol, no doubt odinthor. I'd return from the trip with a trunk full of wild onions!


Here's an interesting bit of ephemera:

Walker's Camp was using the 1842 gold find as a marketing tool in the 1930s.

FRONT AND BACK ONLY

SCVHISTORY

and this.....(about the brochure)

"In a promotional brochure published by 1930s Placerita landowner Frank Walker:
"The first anniversary [in 1843] of this gold discovery was celebrated by the erection of a chapel on the site of the discovery
and the chanting of a solemn high mass by three priests, two from San Fernando and one from Los Angeles,
six altar boys, the entire Mission choir, consisting of twenty neophytes and eight musicians.
Many prominent families of Los Angeles, Santa Barbara, San Buena Ventura and the surrounding country
and the Commissioners sent by Mexico to investigate the truth or falsity of the discovery, were present,
— a date in the history of our State was solemnized, which was to be forever after forgotten."

That's a surprise! I wonder what happened to the chapel?

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excerpt HERE

[ethereal_reality]

Thanks BillinGlendale for figuring out the location of the mystery slide(s), and to Flyingwedge for the follow-up. (but I'm still looking for that school you mentioned)



Here's yet another 1945 slide.


EBAY

"Original 35mm Slide, Burbank CA Street Scene, Furniture Store & City Hall [1945]"

note that it's Christmas time (bells and evergreen cuttings on the street lights)
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UPDATE:
actually that's a whole Christmas tree up there on the pole.

[ethereal_reality]

& here's a second Burbank slide for tonight. (also dated 1945)


EBAY

"Original Slide, Burbank CA Street Scene & Post Office, c. 1945"

I like the florid script used for the post office sign. It seems unusual for a government bldg. (hmm..but it doesn't appear to be spelling out "Burbank Post Office"

So is this nice looking post office still in use?

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[Beaudry]

Originally Posted by Scott Charles

That's one of the reasons I posted a question a few days ago, asking about the boundaries of the various downtown hills.

Eventually, I realized that such a resource might not exist - so I decided to make one myself!

So I took this November 29, 1933 image from FrameFinder (231 MB), cleaned it up a bit, and added in layers in Photoshop:

First, street names in yellow.
Next, points of interest in blue.
Then, the path that the freeways would eventually take, in green.
And finally, highlights of the various hills.





What do you folks think? Are my boundaries of the "hill" neighborhoods accurately presented?

I can't tell you how much I love these animations. Or gifs? (I dunno, I'm old, I just call 'em "the flashy pictures.")

I agree with what was said above, that perhaps every Angeleno has their own idiosyncratic definition of what constitutes the various hills' boundaries. (Among those Angeleni that care, of course.) And that back in the day, the majority of folk probably considered Fifth to Sunset all "Bunker Hill."

For example, my personal definition of Bunker Hill is Fifth, Fig, Temple, Hill. Yep, that includes Court Hill all the way up to Figueroa and though I acknowledge Court Hill I rarely differentiate it from Bunker. Plus that includes all the structures down by the library and Pershing Square; the hill certainly rises sharply from Fifth, even looming above courtesy Winslow's retaining wall. And because I find Hill between Fifth and First so fascinating, I often consider the east side of Hill St to be "Bunker Hill" property as well. And Ft Moore just as you had 'er in red.

[Scott Charles]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

& here's a second Burbank slide for tonight. (also dated 1945)


EBAY

"Original Slide, Burbank CA Street Scene & Post Office, c. 1945"

I like the florid script used for the post office sign. It seems unusual for a government bldg. (hmm..but it doesn't appear to be spelling out "Burbank Post Office"

So is this nice looking post office still in use?

Still in use, but the fancy scripted letters are now gone.

GSV

And Burbank City Hall (from your other post) is just up the street.

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by Scott Charles

Still in use, but the fancy scripted letters are now gone.

GSV

And Burbank City Hall (from your other post) is just up the street.

Read the newer lettering in link below [ at lower Right, press + ]:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1801...2!8i6656?hl=en

[Scott Charles]

Originally Posted by beaudry

I can't tell you how much I love these animations. Or gifs? (I dunno, I'm old, I just call 'em "the flashy pictures.")

I'm glad you like 'em, beaudry! And yes, they are called "animated gifs".

Originally Posted by beaudry

I agree with what was said above, that perhaps every Angeleno has their own idiosyncratic definition of what constitutes the various hills' boundaries. (Among those Angeleni that care, of course.) And that back in the day, the majority of folk probably considered Fifth to Sunset all "Bunker Hill."

For example, my personal definition of Bunker Hill is Fifth, Fig, Temple, Hill. Yep, that includes Court Hill all the way up to Figueroa and though I acknowledge Court Hill I rarely differentiate it from Bunker. Plus that includes all the structures down by the library and Pershing Square; the hill certainly rises sharply from Fifth, even looming above courtesy Winslow's retaining wall. And because I find Hill between Fifth and First so fascinating, I often consider the east side of Hill St to be "Bunker Hill" property as well. And Ft Moore just as you had 'er in red.

The term "Court Hill" is certainly not ubiquitous, unlike "Bunker Hill", "Telegraph/Poundcake Hill", "Fort Moore Hill", and "Normal Hill".


https://www.kcet.org/shows/lost-la/l...of-downtown-la


Los Angeles's Bunker Hill: Pulp Fiction's Mean Streets and Film Noir's Ground Zero!

So it seems that the term "Court Hill" was likely never an official term, but rather an endonym used by the area's dwellers.

While researching this topic the other day, one of the links I read said that "Bunker Hill" included the eastern foothills of Elysian Park - that, to me, seems to be a very generous assessment of Bunker Hill's boundaries:



... then again, if this rather fanciful-looking map is accurate, the hills go on forever. But I'd still call them hills rather than A hill.

In case anyone missed it, here are the 1958 redevelopment borders for Bunker Hill:

Originally Posted by scott charles

http://libraryarchives.metro.net/dpg...project_1b.pdf

[ProphetM]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

& here's a second Burbank slide for tonight. (also dated 1945)


EBAY

"Original Slide, Burbank CA Street Scene & Post Office, c. 1945"

I like the florid script used for the post office sign. It seems unusual for a government bldg. (hmm..but it doesn't appear to be spelling out "Burbank Post Office"

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It says "United States Post Office".

This font is still in use on the post office Terminal Annex building next to Union Station:
https://goo.gl/maps/5KPofUGo54B2