noirish Los Angeles - Page 2637

ethereal_reality · #**52721** Posted **Oct 6, 2019, 12:42 AM**

Currently on eBay

"Gypsy Trail Motel ROUTE 66~3445 E Colorado St PASADENA~Vintage Los Angeles 1940s"

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The Gypsy Trail Motel has been seen twice before on NLA...BUT

The first post is BLURRED because of photobucket's #%&! new policy.

.... (As far as I can tell, it was a different image than the postcard above)

And in the second instance, the LINK is broken.

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FredH · #**52722** Posted **Oct 6, 2019, 5:19 AM**

If I have the correct location, the area now seems to be a closed up Orchard Supply Hardware.

Google Street View

The big question is...can those possibly be the same palm trees over 70 years later?

Found another photo from the Huntington Library

Huntington Library

They say it was taken sometime between the 1920's and 1940's

I think it is earlier than your postcard E.R. The sign is smaller. (And the trees are shorter)

And now that I look again, the office building is much smaller too

Martin Pal · #**52723** Posted **Oct 6, 2019, 5:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by odinthor

Is Tom Bergin's Old Horseshoe Tavern (840 S. Fairfax) new to NLA?
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Hi, Odinthor, the following are the only two posts that I know of mentioning this place on NLA. Mine was posted last March and I quoted one from E_R.

(By the way, E_R, I appreciated your birthday wishes!)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

July 5, 2013, 3:19 PM

Tom Bergin's Old Horseshoe Tavern

840 So. Fairfax just south of Wilshire

I found this postcard on Tuesday, and today I found out it is closing after 77 years!

http://blogs.laweekly.com/squidink/2...losing_fai.php
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Except for E_R's post about this place and a follow-up comment or two, this was the only mention of this place on NLA. It was posted July 5, 2013.

HOWEVER, I was just reading an article about this place that says: The City of L.A.'s Cultural Heritage Commission voted in favor of Tom Bergin's landmark nomination. The nomination next goes to the PLUM committee for a vote.

(PLUM is Planning and Land Use Management.)

It also stated: Operating continuously for 82 years (1936-2018), Tom Bergin’s was one of Los Angeles’ most iconic and longest‐lived bars. Located since 1949 in the distinctive Tudor Revival structure at 840 S. Fairfax Avenue, Tom Bergin’s was a notable legacy business that boasted the second‐oldest liquor license in Los Angeles.

So I did a little searching and found that it was slated to close in July, 2013, but then: longtime regular Derek Schreck, an actor with a handful of small movie roles, had dreamt of opening a bar. He bought the place and revamped the interiors and exteriors as well as the menu while trying to recapture the bar's original ambiance. In January 2014, Tom Bergin's reopened.

Then: Tom Bergin's Facebook page stated that it will be closing for "regular business" on Sunday, Jan. 21, 2018. Owner/proprietor, Derek Schreck said that Tom Bergin's will remain open on a limited schedule (Thursday-Saturday) until "all this beautiful booze gets sufficiently drank."

I guess it's now actually closed, but the building is awaiting landmark status.
https://www.discoverlosangeles.com/e...-of-an-la-icon

L.A. Conservancy

I recently mentioned, in regards to the Formosa Cafe, the 1933 Group that has brought back some historic L.A. establishments. I know that the L.A. Conservancy has been advocating to that group to take an interest in this location. The group said they wouldn't rule it out, but they've zeroed in on a couple other projects they'll be working on in the near future.

CityBoyDoug · #**52724** Posted **Oct 6, 2019, 6:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

The daughter of a Finnish immigrant, Nurmi was raised in Oregon and relocated to Los Angeles in 1940 with hopes of being an actress. After several minor film roles, she found success in the Vampira character, television's first horror host. Nurmi hosted her own series, The Vampira Show, from 1954–55 on KABC-TV...Los Angeles.

my old file

I forgot to ask, have we seen this before? If we have, sorry for the repeat.

Hollywood Graham · #**52725** Posted **Oct 6, 2019, 11:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

I forgot to ask, have we seen this before? If we have, sorry for the repeat.

I used to sneak behind a couch and watch her as I was supposed to be in bed. I wish there were videos saved but none were, if there are any they are in private collections.

John Maddox Roberts · #**52726** Posted **Oct 7, 2019, 1:36 AM**

There are clips of her to be found of her on Youtube, including her orgasmic scream, which we were supposed to be too young to recognize.

Hollywood Graham · #**52727** Posted **Oct 7, 2019, 2:07 PM**

The screaming one I believe is a promo. There was another program on about the same time it was called Voluptuia, she was Vampira's alter ego and played love stories if I remember right. I watched one time only..

Bristolian · #**52728** Posted **Oct 7, 2019, 3:26 PM**

A version of the Vampira character, this time played by actress Lisa Marie, appeared in the 1994 Tim Burton film Ed Wood.

ethereal_reality · #**52729** Posted **Oct 7, 2019, 4:28 PM**

Here is an extremely rare image. . . but if I'm not mistaken, the dates in the seller's description are all wrong.

Seller's description:

1938's ROBIN HOOD MOVIE SET REPURPOSED FOR THE THIEF OF BAGDAD c1940 STILL PHOTO."

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There was a 1938 production of Robin Hood (the famous one with Errol Flynn), as well as, a 1940 production of The Thief of Baghdad (begun in Britian / finished in CA).

But I think the photograph is of the Nottingham Castle set from the 1922 silent production of Robin Hood (starring Douglas Fairbanks)
reconstructed for the 1924 production of The Thief of Baghdad (also starring Douglas Fairbanks). -a silent production as well.

Here's a closer look at the extravagant design and workmanship.

DETAIL

So what do you think, minions...are my dates correct?...or are the seller's dates correct?

P.S. The design looks more Chinese than Persian. (I love that hanging lantern)

HossC · #**52730** Posted **Oct 7, 2019, 6:31 PM**

The whole 1922 version of 'Robin Hood' is on YouTube:

• Video Link

Scanning through, I think this scene of Nottingham Town is a match for e_r's postcard (ignoring the obvious changes for 'The Thief of Baghdad').

Douglas Fairbanks Pictures/United Artists

As an aside, Lake Sherwood, just north of Los Angeles in Ventura County, got its name after being used as the filming location for Sherwood Forest in this movie. A lot of the episodes in the middle seasons of 'The Dukes of Hazzard' were filmed on the roads around Lake Sherwood and on the land that became The Sherwood Country Club.

Handsome Stranger · #**52731** Posted **Oct 7, 2019, 8:11 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

I forgot to ask, have we seen this before? If we have, sorry for the repeat.

Given the alarming impermanence of photos posted here, I don't think repeating images on occasion is necessarily a bad thing. And Vampira is appropriate for the season.

(Hollywood Cemetery, perhaps?)

FredH · #**52732** Posted **Oct 7, 2019, 8:49 PM**

The Thief of Bagdad (1924)

Arriving at the Isle of Wak (wherever that is)

Douglas Fairbanks Pictures, United Artists

Put a gold star on your chart E.R. You nailed this one.

MartinTurnbull · #**52733** Posted **Oct 8, 2019, 3:33 AM**

I don't recall seeing a shot of the NBC Radio City Studios at Sunset and Vine, Hollywood, circa late 1950s in such VIBRANT color!

John Maddox Roberts · #**52734** Posted **Oct 8, 2019, 3:35 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger

Given the alarming impermanence of photos posted here, I don't think repeating images on occasion is necessarily a bad thing. And Vampira is appropriate for the season.

(Hollywood Cemetery, perhaps?)

Was ot possible yo have a waist that tiny? Maybe an all-blood diet helped.

Lorendoc · #**52735** Posted **Oct 8, 2019, 5:25 AM**

Here is one captioned "Early view of a Hollywood street" from the Security Pacific National Bank Collection at LAPL:

lapl.org

The fun mixture of horse and horseless carriages makes one think of 1910 or so. Looking in the CDs, I found an address of 6400 Hollywood Boulevard for the Hollywood National Bank (which ultimately became part of the Security National Bank, probably accounting for why this photo was taken).

The Sanborn maps locate this bank at the SW corner of Hollywood and Cahuenga:

lapl.org

The vacant lots south of the bank match the empty spaces on the map.

Here is the modern view:

GSV

...which shows a four story Art Deco structure which seems to have replaced the bank. However, looking at the building permits, I found this 1931 remodeling permit adding two stories and elevators to the existing two story building at the corner.

LADBS

Looking closer, the massing of the windows on the Cahuenga side 2 - 1 - 2 seem to match the current configuration. Is it the same building?

CaliNative · #**52736** Posted **Oct 8, 2019, 5:34 AM**

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Originally Posted by John Maddox Roberts

Was ot possible yo have a waist that tiny? Maybe an all-blood diet helped.

Plus a very tight corset.

CaliNative · #**52737** Posted **Oct 8, 2019, 5:39 AM**

I grew up in the San Fernando Valley, near the Palamino Club. Watching Ken Burn's recent documentary on Country Music, I really missed the boat. The Palamino Club attracted all the big country singers, and was probably the number one venue in SoCal. Never visited the place. Also, when I was young I never visited the Sunset Strip clubs where big groups like the Doors etc. performed. Just missed the boat I guess. I guess living close to these places you feel you will visit "one day". That day never arrives. Carpe diem.

Scott Charles · #**52738** Posted **Oct 8, 2019, 6:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by John Maddox Roberts

Was ot possible yo have a waist that tiny? Maybe an all-blood diet helped.

As CaliNative noted, it's a corset.

Here's a modern-day corset wearer:

As you might imagine, doing something this extreme is not healthy.

An interesting article on the idea that women fainting during Victorian times was actually due to them wearing such tight corsets: Corsets and the Victorian Fainting Culture

CaliNative · #**52739** Posted **Oct 8, 2019, 8:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by Scott Charles

As CaliNative noted, it's a corset.

Here's a modern-day corset wearer:

As you might imagine, doing something this extreme is not healthy.

An interesting article on the idea that women fainting during Victorian times was actually due to them wearing such tight corsets: Corsets and the Victorian Fainting Culture

Interesting scene in "Gone With the Wind" with Scarlett being bound into a tight corset, complaining all the while. Fit women with natural slim waists contrasting with bigger behinds ("curves") are appealing, but corsets carry the trend too far. Natural curves good, un-natural bad in my opinion. Natural is best. Same thing with makeup...use sparingly ladies. Too much on the face and you start to look like the Joker. Check out old pics of 1940s movie star like Joan Crawford. Way too much makeup.

Scott Charles · #**52740** Posted **Oct 8, 2019, 8:41 PM**

They've still got corsets today, except now they call 'em Spanx!

https://www.hourglassangel.com/blog/...does-spanx-do/