Future Canadian Skylines - Page 140

Chadillaccc · #**2781** Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 12:38 AM**

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Originally Posted by Prometheus

Oh man.

You are obviously failing to grasp the argument. The point isn't that the residential neighbourhoods between Bathurst and Spadina are not a part of Toronto's downtown. The point is that the West End (which is more dense and urban than those Toronto neighbourhoods AND much closer to and organically contiguous with Vancouver's downtown core than those neighbourhoods are with Toronto's core) must be a part of Vancouver's downtown too. By any rational standard, the entire downtown peninsula is a de facto part of Vancouver's downtown.

To say otherwise is asinine.

All of this, yes!

Prometheus · #**2782** Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 12:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by yaletown_fella

The West End is sort of similar to the Annex area of Toronto.

Just a lot more dense and tall and closer to the central business district.

Klazu · #**2783** Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 1:08 AM**

This discussion is just hilarious. Some feelings were definitely hurt with one little unimportant comment.

caltrane74 · #**2784** Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 1:12 AM**

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Originally Posted by yaletown_fella

The West End is sort of similar to the Annex area of Toronto.

We'll I'll take your word for it.

The Annex straddles, the northern border of downtown. Technically, I would say it is entirely downtown. (It actually includes parts of Yorkville, and some really tall buildings) But for the most part its pretty regal, low rise and hell of expensive.

yaletown_fella · #**2785** Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 2:12 AM**

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Originally Posted by Prometheus

Just a lot more dense and tall and closer to the central business district.

Im not concerned with the numbers. Just the general vibe from a pedestrian perspective. They are both established areas with mid century apartments, tall deciduous trees, and lots of quirky independent businesses/restaurants/bars/cafes. Both areas are great examples of successful lowrise residential preservation/restoration.

Prometheus · #**2786** Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 2:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by caltrane74

We'll I'll take your word for it.

Don't. It's a terrible comparison.

Everything to the left of (and including) the tallest building in the photo is the West End. Directly across the street behind the tallest building is Vancouver's central business district:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/golden...n/photostream/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/golden009/3478543491/

Everything in front of (and including) the tallest building (i.e., the blue coloured building) in the photo is the West End:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/milesbanbery/3484915205/

The West End:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/juliusreque/9360229407/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonpier/6314593545/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/rebel_base/4160820152/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mbell1...n/photostream/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonperry/9387595037/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/freedr...n/photostream/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/freedryk/153445496/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/freedr...n/photostream/

Chadillaccc · #**2787** Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 2:28 AM**

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Originally Posted by caltrane74

We'll I'll take your word for it.

The Annex straddles, the northern border of downtown. Technically, I would say it is entirely downtown. (It actually includes parts of Yorkville, and some really tall buildings) But for the most part its pretty regal, low rise and hell of expensive.

You have clearly never spent any significant amount of time in Vancouver.

caltrane74 · #**2788** Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 2:38 AM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

You have clearly never spent any significant amount of time in Vancouver.

That's why I said I'll take yaletown's word for it.

He spends half his year out there.

The St. Lawrence Market (is/was) a low rise district that is part of downtown and its very dense and it feels likes like a part of downtown. While the Annex is not as dense as St. Lawrence, it certainly has a more up tempo and urban vibe especially on Bloor. The side streets to the north and south of Bloor are bustling, yet quaint. Tonnes of students going about their business in the shadows of massive and towering trees.

ozonemania · #**2789** Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 2:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by Prometheus

Don't. It's a terrible comparison.

Everything to the left of (and including) the tallest building in the photo is the West End:

Thanks for all those awesome Vancouver West End photos! So dense!

ACT7 · #**2790** Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 2:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by Prometheus

Don't. It's a terrible comparison.

Everything to the left of (and including) the tallest building in the photo is the West End:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/golden...n/photostream/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/golden009/3478543491/

Everything in front of (and including) the tallest building in the photo is the West End:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/milesbanbery/3484915205/

The West End:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/juliusreque/9360229407/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonpier/6314593545/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/rebel_base/4160820152/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mbell1...n/photostream/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonperry/9387595037/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/freedr...n/photostream/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/freedryk/153445496/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/freedr...n/photostream/

Everyone's given you the fact that the west end is now officially part of downtown Vancouver, because it simply feels that way. Either way it's still 75k people short of the strictest definitions of downtown Toronto.

And to your comment that people's feelings have been hurt by one comment - um no. I've had the same stupid conversation with someone in Calgary who claimed downtown Calgary was busier than downtown Vancouver. ssiguy's original comment obviously had some provocation associated with it, so I'm sure if someone on here made that same Calgary claim, Vancouver posters would pounce all over it.

Chadillaccc · #**2791** Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 2:51 AM**

How about we get over this argument and bask in the glory of a Future Skyline Render since that is what this thread is for. This masterpiece is by CtrlAltDel, he does most of Calgary's future renders and does amazing work, from different angles each time. It has been posted here before, but we have enough newcomers to the forum that it shouldn't hurt to post it, and for the sake of hopefully breaking up this argument!

"CtrlAltDel

This isn't my favorite picture I've done,but I felt like I should post something since it's been so long.

There are about 30+ developments in here, with many more to be added. I will continue to add them when I get the chance. Sorry for the wait. I have a few more I will post in the new year.

Calgary from the sky, year 2020:"

Bcasey25raptor · #**2792** Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 3:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

Two can play that game...

This is downtown Vancouver:

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Oh hey, thats my street.

Innsertnamehere · #**2793** Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 3:14 AM**

^ honestly just dropped into a random street on the west end with residential housing, I swear I didn't know!

Bcasey25raptor · #**2794** Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 3:35 AM**

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Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

^ honestly just dropped into a random street on the west end with residential housing, I swear I didn't know!

Hahahaha.

Nah you're probably just a stalker who knows my IP

All things considered, I live down that street at the corner of barclay and broughton, in fact my building was already posted.

Bcasey25raptor · #**2795** Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 3:38 AM**

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Originally Posted by Prometheus

Don't. It's a terrible comparison.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/freedr...n/photostream/

My building is the short stubby one on the left.

GlassCity · #**2796** Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 5:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

How about we get over this argument and bask in the glory of a Future Skyline Render since that is what this thread is for. This masterpiece is by CtrlAltDel, he does most of Calgary's future renders and does amazing work, from different angles each time. It has been posted here before, but we have enough newcomers to the forum that it shouldn't hurt to post it, and for the sake of hopefully breaking up this argument!

"CtrlAltDel

This isn't my favorite picture I've done,but I felt like I should post something since it's been so long.

There are about 30+ developments in here, with many more to be added. I will continue to add them when I get the chance. Sorry for the wait. I have a few more I will post in the new year.

Calgary from the sky, year 2020:"

Sorry I know I'm going against the entire point of your post, but it's something I've wondered for a while. In my head I've always considered the Beltline to be Calgary's West End. Since you've lived in both cities, is that true at all?

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Originally Posted by Bcasey25raptor

My building is the short stubby one on the left.

Wow you really want us to know where you live!

Chadillaccc · #**2797** Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 6:04 AM**

Well yes, the Beltline is to Calgary as the West End is to Vancouver. But no, it is not technically Calgary's West End, we have a West End that is actually on the West side of downtown

The Beltline would be the south end.

GlassCity · #**2798** Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 6:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Well clearly yes, the Beltline is to Calgary as the West End is to Vancouver. But no, it is not technically Calgary's West End, west have a West End that is actually on the West side of downtown

The Beltline would be the south end.

Hahaha I know it's in the south ya goof

I was just curious if it was as directly applicable as it seemed to be from photos and descriptions from people on this site.

The only difference I can kinda sense is that from what I gather Calgary's main party street is here (17th Avenue, right?) whereas Granville Street is even further east than the CBD.

Chadillaccc · #**2799** Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 6:39 AM**

Yes that is true. The main difference I notice though is the vast amount of office space in the Beltline. 17th and Granville are VERY different, Granville is far superior, probably the best street in Western Canada, like Stephen Avenue, 4th Street, and 17th Avenue combined, plus several subway stations in close proximity or along the strip. However, they are both the main party streets during major sporting events, very close to the hockey stadiums of their respective cities, so that is a good similarity.

GlassCity · #**2800** Posted **Apr 2, 2014, 6:58 AM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Yes that is true. The main difference I notice though is the vast amount of office space in the Beltline. 17th and Granville are VERY different, Granville is far superior, probably the best street in Western Canada, like Stephen Avenue, 4th Street, and 17th Avenue combined, plus several subway stations in close proximity or along the strip. However, they are both the main party streets during major sporting events, very close to the hockey stadiums of their respective cities, so that is a good similarity.

Yeah, the office thing is a big one for sure, but I guess Vancouver has Broadway to sort of play that secondary office role. I can't think of anything in Calgary that I'd compare to Broadway. In Edmonton I always think of Whyte Avenue since it's urban, low-rise and south of downtown across the water, but it doesn't really have the corporate presence either. I had no idea I spent so much time thinking about dumb stuff like this