noirish Los Angeles - Page 2510

ethereal_reality · #**50181** Posted **Jan 6, 2019, 2:06 AM**

"Ann Blyth getting an assist into her mermaid’s tail by Bud Westmore and probably a gentleman from the wardrobe department."

vickielester

Vickie Lester pointed out a detail that I hadn't noticed before.

It looks very much like she’s only up to her knees in fancy fins, and they shot her lounging on rocks with the costume draped in front of her.
I’ll have to watch “Mr. Peabody and the Mermaid” again to figure it out."

I wonder if this is correct? I would think, especially when filming, the mermaids would be wearing their costumes (not simply draped over them)

ethereal_reality · #**50182** Posted **Jan 6, 2019, 2:27 AM**

Needless to say...her legs are inside the tail when she's in motion.

giphy

OOPS

filmblanc

I must be thinking of a different movie. I don't believe I have seen this one.
I might have been thinking of an Esther Williams movie. (I'm pretty sure she played a mermaid in one of her films)

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ethereal_reality · #**50183** Posted **Jan 6, 2019, 3:06 AM**

mystery house. (well, sort of)

EBAY

Luckily, there is an address on the back.

436 Oak Ave. Hollywood - Los Angeles Cal

The problem is.....when I use the address as written, google-maps takes me to a Glen Oak Street.

If I use Los Angeles as the city, instead of Hollywood, I'm directed to a White Oak Street.

I also checked Oak St. in Pasadena without any luck.

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BillinGlendaleCA · #**50184** Posted **Jan 6, 2019, 10:51 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

mystery house. (well, sort of)

436 Oak Ave. Hollywood - Los Angeles Cal

The problem is.....when I use the address as written, google-maps takes me to a Glen Oak Street.

If I use Los Angeles as the city, instead of Hollywood, I'm directed to a White Oak Street.

I also checked Oak St. in Pasadena without any luck.

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There is an Oak Ave. in El Segundo, doubt that's it. There's also an Oak St. east of Toberman just west of the 10/110 interchange.

CityBoyDoug · #**50185** Posted **Jan 6, 2019, 2:27 PM**

https://youtu.be/2hYqYcvMKRw

This 2 min. video is "A Ride Through LA- 1932.

Rather shaky but .....

Lwize · #**50186** Posted **Jan 6, 2019, 3:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by HossC

That would be Edward J Pyle (married to Corinne H) who lived at 1347 N Orange Drive. He's only listed at the gas station in the 1936 CD, and by 1937 he's a manager at Savoy Corp (possibly the auto park people who had a site next to the gas station).

You forgot to mention Ed Pyle provided super service!

HossC · #**50187** Posted **Jan 6, 2019, 3:46 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

https://youtu.be/2hYqYcvMKRw

This 2 min. video is "A Ride Through LA- 1932.

Rather shaky but .....

Scott Charles posted that video (linked to the original at archive.org) back in October in post #49328. He split it into scenes, and we worked out the filming locations over the next few pages.

Tourmaline · #**50188** Posted **Jan 6, 2019, 3:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

You see Tourmaline, even if we have seen a photograph before on NLA...by posting it again we might possibly learn something new.

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Tried to send you a PM, but evidently your inbox is full.

GaylordWilshire · #**50189** Posted **Jan 6, 2019, 5:07 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

mystery house. (well, sort of)

EBAY

Luckily, there is an address on the back.

436 Oak Ave. Hollywood - Los Angeles Cal

The problem is.....when I use the address as written, google-maps takes me to a Glen Oak Street.

If I use Los Angeles as the city, instead of Hollywood, I'm directed to a White Oak Street.

I also checked Oak St. in Pasadena without any luck.

Interesting...here's a bit of a Sanborn map key indicating an Oak Avenue in Hollywood...which became part of Hobart Blvd after annexation. A builder named George L. Lovejoy was at "436 S Crown Av" in the 1911 city directory; the section of Crown south of Propsect Av/Hollywood Blvd appears to have briefly carried the name Oak Aveneue—in the 1912 CD, Lovejoy is listed at "436 Oak Av." (Perhaps he had it photographed for sales purposes...although he was still at 1302 as late as 1923.) The clincher would seem to be that Lovejoy is in the 1913 LACD--with address and street-name changes still being adjusted--at 1302 N Hobart Blvd. In late 1924 this house was moved east on its lot--turned 90° counterclockwise--and made into a 2-fam dwelling, addressed 5287/89 Fountain--see the Sanborns of 1919 and 1950 below...the house has been replaced, but do you suppose it might have been the mystery house?

1919

1950

CityBoyDoug · #**50190** Posted **Jan 6, 2019, 7:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by Lwize

You forgot to mention Ed Pyle provided super service!

Lwize: That's good news but how do you know this? Is it the sign painted on the side of the building?
If you're joking, that is fine as we all need a good joke.

Noirishers will note that many of Lwize's comments are filled with the ironic, witticisms and jests.

ethereal_reality · #**50191** Posted **Jan 6, 2019, 9:08 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

Interesting...here's a bit of a Sanborn map key indicating an Oak Avenue in Hollywood...which became part of Hobart Blvd after annexation. A builder named George L. Lovejoy was at "436 Oak Av" in the 1912 LACD. (Perhaps he had it photographed for sales purposes...although he was still at 1302 as late as 1923.) The clincher would seem to be that Lovejoy is in the 1913 LACD--with address and street-name changes still being adjusted--at 1302 N Hobart Blvd. In late 1924 this house was moved east on its lot--turned 90° counterclockwise--and made into a 2-fam dwelling, addressed 5287/89 Fountain--see the Sanborns of 1919 and 1950 below...the house has been replaced, but do you suppose it might have been the mystery house?

1919

1950

HOLY TODELO !

You just earned

..........................GAYLORDWILSHIRE...............................

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GaylordWilshire · #**50192** Posted **Jan 6, 2019, 9:27 PM**

Holy Todelo indeed. Thanks, ER. We've seen Joan hugging the post before--always a pleasant reminder of one of the all-time fabulously ridiculous JC movies ever-- Strait Jacket. With Diane Baker, absurd fake props, and totally unsubtle product placement...

GaylordWilshire · #**50193** Posted **Jan 7, 2019, 12:59 AM**

Re the Oak Street/Hobart Blvd house:

PREPARE TO HAVE YOUR MIND BLOWN, ER + SOME NOIR

When looking into the house at the nec of Oak/Hobart and Fountain, I took a look at the GSV of the its later address on Fountain (5287/89) and dismissed the building now there as a replacement, even though I didn't see a demo BP when I looked into those. But then I looked a little closer...

Notice the little west-side bay near the front--it corresponds to the bay indicated on the 1919 an 1950 Sanborns. So it seems your mystery house stands!

Among the changes to the house made over the years was its being was stuccoed over in 1984...

And, of course, into every LA house creeps a little noir...

LAT Nov 24, 1943

I couldn't find anything more of Irene Seidcheck (other than that her brother-in-law died in 1964)

CityBoyDoug · #**50194** Posted **Jan 7, 2019, 1:15 AM**

Joan was a board member of Pepsi.....thanks to her last husband, Mr Alfred Steele.

(April 24, 1900 – April 19, 1959) was an American soft drink businessman. He graduated from Northwestern University in 1923, where he played football, and became an ad executive. He first worked for The Coca-Cola Company, as vice president of marketing.

quora

HossC · #**50195** Posted **Jan 7, 2019, 1:23 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

Re the Oak Street/Hobart Blvd house:

PREPARE TO HAVE YOUR MIND BLOWN, ER + SOME NOIR

When looking into the house at the nec of Oak/Hobart and Fountain, I took a look at the GSV of the its later address on Fountain (5287/89) and dismissed the building now there as a replacement, even though I didn't see a demo BP when I looked into those. But then I looked a little closer...

Notice the little west-side bay near the front--it corresponds to the bay indicated on the 1919 an 1950 Sanborns. So it seems your mystery house stands!

I did wonder about that myself when I saw the shape of the chimney facing the alley, but didn't have time to look into it further.

GSV

GaylordWilshire · #**50196** Posted **Jan 7, 2019, 1:42 AM**

HossC has nailed it own even further...or father, since distance does enter into it...the nail...nevermind

ethereal_reality · #**50197** Posted **Jan 7, 2019, 1:43 AM**

That thing is our mystery house?

Ebay

For once..I'm speechless.

ethereal_reality · #**50198** Posted **Jan 7, 2019, 5:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

And, of course, into every LA house creeps a little noir...

LAT Nov 24, 1943

I couldn't find anything more of Irene Seidcheck.

Believe it or not GW, I located a photograph of Irene Seidcheck.

kansasdrakes

The man on the tricycle is her husband, Allan Seidcheck...a so-called 'bad boy'
Allan is the person who placed the missing ad (his name is on it)

To ease the suspense, Irene was FOUND.
(or more likely she simply decided to return to her husband)

It turns out...Irene's daughter, Colleen, is searching for information on her biological mother. at SWOTR

"At some point between age 9 and 14 (1935 to 1940), Irene and her parents, George & Liliane Kosloff, moved from the East Coast to Los Angeles.
They found their new homes at 1823 Garfield Place (1930), 2590 Beachwood Drive (1940) and 2604 Glen Green (1942) in Hollywood Hills.
Her father worked as a "Theatrical Agent" and she most likely attended Hollywood High School. It was here that Irene met and fell in love
with Allan Seidcheck, a "bad boy" from Chicago who had lived in California since he was about 12 years old. Irene became pregnant
with Allan's child when she was 16--practically a baby herself!"

[condensed]

Irene's Death

Irene died in Los Angeles on April 24, 1977. She was 51; I was 14. Her address at the time was 11620 Washington Blvd.
now known as Vista Del Sol Care Center. It's located just blocks from the home I grew up in. She was right there the entire time!
Her name on the Certificate of Death is Irene Kay.

To read the whole story (and see additional photographs) go to Colleen's blog Somewhere Over the Raindow

GW, I don't believe Irene's daughter is aware of the missing ad. Do you think it's something she'd like to know?

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Handsome Stranger · #**50199** Posted **Jan 7, 2019, 5:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

And, of course, into every LA house creeps a little noir...

LAT Nov 24, 1943

I couldn't find anything more of Irene Seidcheck (other than that her brother-in-law died in 1964)

ER beat me to it...I found the same blog post and was just about to triumphantly reveal all! Grumble grumble...

I also found this notice of divorce that appeared in the L.A. Times on 28 September 1949, six years after her disappearance. Assuming it's the same Irene Seidcheck, she was either found or came back of her own accord.

Watch out for them "bad boys" from Chicago!

ethereal_reality · #**50200** Posted **Jan 7, 2019, 5:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger

Grumble grumble.

jus' kiddin' with ya.