noirish Los Angeles

[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by BifRayRock

Zinke's

Glendale and Pasadena too.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1Sr7EddpqF...ers+zinkes.jpg


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...a645025d35.jpg
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Originally Posted by Martin Pal

In 2010, West Hollywood had an exhibition placed along the median on Santa Monica Blvd. of some neon road signs...

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Jason in Hollywood
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This animated Zinke's Shoe Repair sign was built with a porcelain enamel finish in 1928 for Zinke's in Glendale, California.

In 1983 Zinke's donated the sign to MONA and it was displayed at Universal City Walk until 2000. Apparently two existing
Zinke's signs of different designs can be found in Pasadena and Glendale, both in working order. From Jason in Hollywood.

[HossC]

Here's Bellflower Boulevard at Mayne Street on June 2, 1961. The Bellflower/Nubel/Holiday Theater is visible in the distance.


LAPL

I was hoping that some of the signage down the street had survived, but, as you can see, none has. The street has also been narrowed in places, and there are gaps between stores down the left (east) side. This is actually the 2011 view to get the central position, but the current view is almost identical.


GSV

P.S. I think I also prefer the Bellflower Theater's original tower .

[tovangar2]

Originally Posted by HossC

Here's Bellflower Boulevard at Mayne Street on June 2, 1961. The Bellflower/Nubel/Holiday Theater is visible in the distance.

Both the historic and current photos of Bellflower Blvd and Mayne just miss the 1927 Bellflower P.E. Station, out of shot on the east side of the street:

Heller



It's still there


P.S.

...and speaking of Bellflower's "bellflower" street lamps, there seems to be one somewhat similar featured at Vermonica


Sheila Klein, the artist who installed Vermonica, also did the installation on Pico Blvd under the freeway overpass at about 34th St. More here.


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[HossC]

That station building was directly left of the Googlemobile in my "now" picture, but I only saw it end on, and didn't realize its significance. It wasn't looking so good in 2007.


GSV

The old railroad tracks have now been turned into foot/cycle path.


GSV

[odinthor]

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

I never see your GSV photos, Tovangar...on either Safari or Firefox browsers. Obviously some do?

Nor I (on IE).

[GaylordWilshire]

Add Chrome to the list ...

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by tovangar2

Both the historic and current photos of Bellflower Blvd and Mayne just miss the 1927 Bellflower P.E. Station, out of shot on the east side of the street:

Heller



It's still there


P.S.

...and speaking of Bellflower's "bellflower" street lamps, there seems to be one somewhat similar featured at Vermonica



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I drove by this old station location last week. Its largest use was during WW II. Its sort of a museum in 2017.


jack finn

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by odinthor

Nor I (on IE).

Hot linking photos is a bad idea for this site. Its best to always use
a photo storage website.

[ethereal_reality]

Here's a rare family photograph I found a couple months ago on ancestry.com


"View of Edward I. McCray residence looking down Bronson Avenue in 1925."


ancestry.com

-note how Bronson becomes much narrower a bit farther south. (not sure if the McCray residence is still standing) -or any of the neighboring houses.

There's also a pretty large 'Tudor' style house in the upper right corner


I tried finding the photograph again, without success) I'm not a member of ancestry / & I can't recall how I accessed it. (I must have slipped thru a 'back door')

If I remember correctly, oldstuff is a member (of ancestry). Maybe she can check it out.

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[tovangar2]

It's all still there. That's Hollyridge Loop at Bronson.

The McCray place is at 2151 Hollyridge Dr. Built 1923.

Edward Sweet designed it for E. I. McCray.

The single-story, Tudor-style one just south of it is at 2127 N Bronson (my, look how that tree has grown).


I think e_r may be able to see this:

google maps

I don't think Bronson narrows e_r. It's just the broad trees overhanging the roadway.



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Originally Posted by odinthor

Nor I (on IE).

One of my kids will be over tomorrow. I'll ask him. I don't want to burden you with a thousand words every time something catches my eye. Pix are so much better.

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

Hot linking photos is a bad idea for this site. Its best to always use
a photo storage website.

I would never CBD. I use Google Photos, but it's still is trying to interact w/ Picasa3, which may be the problem.

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by tovangar2

I would never CBD. I use Google Photos, but it's still is trying to interact w/ Picasa3, which may be the problem.

I know you don't hotlink T2 but several have over the years and now all of their posted photos are disappeared.

[Some of my photos have disappeared but that is a different story for another day.]

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Has anyone heard of 'Robinson Hall' in Pasadena?

I just found an earlier postcard that states Robinson Hall was also known as 'Robincroft', Woman's Home Missionary Society Rest Home.

1910s

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Post...0AAOSwuxFYuVtx









At some point in time the home was affiliated with the Methodist Church.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pasadena-CA-...BfFF3yXbqKo0mQ







This postcard mentions Metzer Hall (perhaps a sister building to 'Robinson Hall'?)


http://www.ebay.com/itm/PASADENA-CA-...H2vNaZ9bHcGhGw






The cafeteria was located in the above mentioned Metzer Hall.


brochure detail http://www.ebay.com/itm/bk-Robincrof...YAAOSwB09YFn~S


Today, the locals know it as the 'Robincroft Castle' (built in 1900 and believed to be designed by J. Blick). The castle is located on Monk Hill in northwest Pasadena.



Current photographs here:
http://www.viewsouthcahomes.com/prop...p?mls=10419064

$1,499,000 | Residential | 6 Bed | 5 Bath
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The stand-alone turret (with the bridge) contains a private chapel.(link below)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/michael_locke/28189822750

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[Lomara]

Originally Posted by HossC

The old railroad tracks have now been turned into foot/cycle path.


GSV

The old PE right of way was turned into the Bellflower Bike Trail a number of years ago.

https://www.traillink.com/trail/bellflower-bike-trail/

Angelenos passed Measure M in November 2016, which would expand the Metro light rail with the West Santa Ana Branch Transit Corridor on that old PE right of way. I wouldn't think they would be able to keep the Bellflower Bike Trail on that same right of way.

http://media.metro.net/projects_stud...iative_map.pdf

[Wenders]

[QUOTE=tovangar2;7746285]

It's all still there. That's Hollyridge Loop at Bronson.

The McCray place is at 2151 Hollyridge Dr. Built 1923.

Edward Sweet designed it for E. I. McCray.

The single-story, Tudor-style one just south of it is at 2127 N Bronson.


I think e_r may be able to see this:

google maps



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That's my old neighborhood 22+ years ago. I used to pass 2151 Hollyridge Dr almost daily when heading to Bronson Canyon for hike.
This building sat abandoned for years. No windows, the yard looked like a jungle. It was probably the only house in the area in that condition and I was sure it'll be torn down. Then the big housing boom came. When did it start, around 1998? Someone bought it and fixed it.

[ethereal_reality]

Thanks for this information on 2151 Hollyridge Drive tovangar2 and Wenders! And YES, I can see your photo t2.

Originally Posted by "Wenders

This building sat abandoned for years. No windows, the yard looked like a jungle.

I'm so glad someone came in and saved it.

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[tovangar2]

Originally Posted by Wenders

This building sat abandoned for years. No windows, the yard looked like a jungle. It was probably the only house in the area in that condition and I was sure it'll be torn down. Then the big housing boom came. When did it start, around 1998? Someone bought it and fixed it.

2151 Hollyridge Dr /the McCray house is looking pretty good now. There's a bunch of interior/exterior photos here.

I read Chuck Berry (1926-2017) owned it (amazing what comes up when you search an address). His name is on a plumbing permit in 1980. Danny Masterson lived there starting in 2007 (wasn't he on "That 70s Show"?). It hasn't been sold again.


P.S.

Oh, that big Tudor-style place you mentioned e_r? It's at 2215 Hollyridge Dr, built in 1923 for Wm G. Bower, M.D.

[ethereal_reality]

'mystery' location. [1950]



ebay

I wasn't able to find Maxwell's Cafe in any of the old directories.



A closer look.

"Kim Smilo at the Organ"

detail

Open 6 AM to 2 AM

"Out of Bounds (?) & Off Limits" sign. (but it doesn't look like 'bounds')
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I remember discussing these signs on NLA, but I thought they said "Off Limits to Servicemen"

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[ethereal_reality]

Before I call it a night, here's a 2nd 'mystery' location.

This one is dated 1962. (even though the watermark says Debi1965)


ebay

I believe the small red sign say 'Westwood Flying A'. So it's no doubt somewhere in Westwood.

[tovangar2]

The same angle is not possible. That parking lot has been built over.


gsv

That's 10889 Wilshire between Westwood Blvd and Glendon Ave.

Claud Beelman designed it. Armand Hammer's Occidental Petroleum was in it 1968-2014. The finish is very similar to Beelman's Signal Oil Building at W 6th and S Flower and also not unlike his Tidewater Oil (now Harbor) Building at Wilshire and Crenshaw.

UCLA leases it now, with the Hammer Museum offices occupying the first five floors. The Hammer Museum (operated by UCLA) was built directly behind it.


google maps

LA Conservancy's write up on the pair of buildings is here

Hammer is buried diagonally across the Glendon/Wilshire intersection at Westwood Village Memorial Park Cemetery b/c he likes to keep an eye on things.

[Flyingwedge]

With north at the bottom, here is the 1906 Sanborn Map showing the first several houses east of Alvarado on Ocean View,
now West Third Street:



ProQuest via LAPL


In this c. 1900 photo looking northeast, we see (left to right) 2025, 2021/2015, 2007, and I believe 1929 Ocean View.
Between the rear of 2025 and the oil derricks is a bit of 2025's barn/carriage house:



486898 at HDL


We mostly see 2007 Ocean View in this c. 1901 photo looking northwest across Westlake Avenue, just below Ocean View.



486892 at HDL


August 1913 BPs show that the house at 2007 Ocean View was moved around the block, behind its original location,
to 2020 Miramar Street, and an apartment building now apparently known as the Mariposa Apartments was built at
2007 Ocean View (the Royal Viking Motel, now the Pod Inn, is on the corner of Alvarado and 3rd):

Originally Posted by 3940dxer

All photos mine.

This photo looking northwest was taken from the apartment building at 2007, with 2021 and 2025 in the foreground.
There is no HOLLYWOODLAND sign (1923), and the house above the red X, 140 S. Carondelet, was built in 1917, so
the photo's c. 1920 date is probably pretty close:



486884 @ HDL


HossC posted this 1933 photo looking south on Alvarado at Valley, which is one block north of Miramar. To the right of
the oil derrick you can see 2020 Miramar (ex-2007 Ocean View), for which there is a March 1, 1966 demo permit.

Originally Posted by HossC

Detail from photo at USC Digital Library

From the same set of photos as HossC's shot, here is a closeup of the rear of 2025's carriage house, with the little
cupola. Above the carriage house is the roof of 2021. To the right of the carriage house is a sign for the Barker Hotel,
which we've seen here before.



DW-1933-05-01-04~01 at USCDL


We again see 2025's carriage house (and 2021 and its carriage house) in this 1936 aerial looking east on Third St.
The demo permit for the house at 2025 is dated January 24, 1933; the demo permit for the carriage house at 2025
is dated July 24, 1941:



AAA-NG-4129-W at USCDL


Again with north at the bottom, here is the 1950 Sanborn Map showing the same stretch of 3rd Street as the 1906 map.
Both the home at 2021 and its carriage house have January 1957 demo permits. It looks like the Barker Hotel on Miramar
had annexes on 3rd Street:



ProQuest via LAPL