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Old Posted Mar 3, 2015, 5:44 AM
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^ Sorry but I find you're just somewhat showing some kind of stereotypical bitterness from the so-called New World to so-called old Europe, which is nothing much of a novelty to us. We've been used to it for generations, while we are still here, right? Excuse-me but as far as I can go past, none of my freaking ancestors felt the need to leave our country, while they weren't all well off. Some were from the working class and nonetheless found future for themselves over here. You see what I mean? I think you should clean up your front door before charging any foreigner, including Europeans. That's what I usually do myself, which is much more elegant.

There's a precedent when it comes to French-American territories taking their independence from metropolitan France, that is Haiti. We all know, especially people from Martinique, Guadeloupe or any French overseas territory about the outcome that's been pretty disastrous so far. That's partly why we'd rather think twice before voting for a prospective dismemberment of our nation that will not last forever, however, granted. We're too small to achieve big things on our own, we're quite aware. But then our foreseeable future belongs to a better integrated and federal European Union, nowhere else.



That's a complete nonsense nowadays, though. It's not like the Breton language would any longer threaten the practice of French in Brittany in any way. Same for Occitan in the metropolitan southern regions and so on. I'm all for promoting any cultural and historic trait or specifics in all French regions, now. It would help create wealth from my perspective. We need to grow more open-minded and flexible indeed, huh.
Really I don´t think that example is a fair comparison since, like most of the Independence processes in the 19, 20 centuries, they were a result of the already bad situation under colonial rule. Anyway, I think France is a great country, but if France, as a single exeption (I think not even the super worldpower US has so many overseas territories and territorialistic claims), can keep its strategically far away overseas territories, and keep their residents happy in the long term, Chapeaux!

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The population of the new French regions of Metropolitan France in January 2014 compared to the population of the German Länder.

The new French regions will come into existence on January 1, 2016 (the law has been passed). We don't know their names yet, so I have used the compounded names of the former regions out of which they are created.

First a map:



Population on Jan. 1, 2014:
- North Rhine-Westphalia: 17,571,856
- Bavaria: 12,604,244
- Paris Region: 12,005,077
- Baden-Württemberg: 10,631,278
- Rhône-Alpes-Auvergne: 7,808,323
- Lower Saxony: 7,790,559
- Hesse: 6,045,425
- Nord-Pas-de-Calais-Picardy: 5,985,719
- Aquitaine-Limousin-Poitou-Charentes: 5,867,448
- Midi-Pyrénées-Languedoc-Roussillon: 5,724,711
- Alsace-Lorraine-Champagne-Ardenne: 5,553,187
- Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur: 4,964,859

- Saxony: 4,046,385
- Rhineland-Palatinate: 3,994,366
- Pays de la Loire: 3,689,465
- City-State of Berlin: 3,421,829
- Normandy: 3,330,120
- Brittany: 3,273,343
- Burgundy-Franche-Comté: 2,817,429

- Schleswig-Holstein: 2,815,955
- Centre-Val de Loire: 2,577,474
- Brandenburg: 2,449,193
- Saxony-Anhalt: 2,244,577
- Thuringia: 2,160,840
- City-State of Hamburg: 1,746,342
- Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania: 1,596,505
- Saarland: 990,718
- State of Bremen: 657,391

- Corsica: 323,092

Population growth in 2013:
- City-State of Berlin: +1.38%
- Corsica: +1.04%
- Midi-Pyrénées-Languedoc-Roussillon: +0.86%
- Pays de la Loire: +0.77%
- Rhône-Alpes-Auvergne: +0.73%

- City-State of Hamburg: +0.70%
- Bavaria: +0.68%
- Baden-Württemberg: +0.59%
- Brittany: +0.54%
- Aquitaine-Limousin-Poitou-Charentes: +0.50%

- Hesse: +0.48%
- Paris Region: +0.44%
- State of Bremen: +0.40%
- Schleswig-Holstein: +0.34%
- Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur: +0.30%
- Centre-Val de Loire: +0.25%

- Lower Saxony: +0.15%
- Rhineland-Palatinate: +0.10%
- Nord-Pas-de-Calais-Picardy: +0.10%
- North Rhine-Westphalia: +0.10%
- Normandy: +0.09%
- Alsace-Lorraine-Champagne-Ardenne: +0.03%
- Burgundy-Franche-Comté: +0.00%

- Brandenburg: -0.01%
- Saxony: -0.09%
- Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania: -0.24%
- Saarland: -0.36%
- Thuringia: -0.44%
- Saxony-Anhalt: -0.66%


Absolute population growth in 2013:
- Bavaria: +84,673 people
- Baden-Württemberg: +62,167
- Rhône-Alpes-Auvergne: +56,225
- Paris Region: +53,016
- Midi-Pyrénées-Languedoc-Roussillon: +48,864

- City-State of Berlin: +46,607
- Hesse: +28,944
- Aquitaine-Limousin-Poitou-Charentes: +28,922
- Pays de la Loire: +28,094
- Brittany: +17,672

- North Rhine-Westphalia: +17,527
- Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur: +15,075
- City-State of Hamburg: +12,070
- Lower Saxony: +11,564
- Schleswig-Holstein: +9,424
- Centre-Val de Loire: +6,352
- Nord-Pas-de-Calais-Picardy: +6,015

- Rhineland-Palatinate: +4,088
- Corsica: +3,312
- Normandy: +2,947

- State of Bremen: +2,617
- Alsace-Lorraine-Champagne-Ardenne: +1,674
- Burgundy-Franche-Comté: +45

- Brandenburg: -318
- Saarland: -3,569
- Saxony: -3,819
- Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania: -3,822
- Thuringia: -9,620
- Saxony-Anhalt: -14,816
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Wow, look at that growth in Berlin. I had no idea.
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Wow, look at that growth in Berlin.
Jup.

Berlin net growth was around +40.000 annually from 2011-14.
The workforce grew by +30.000 annually in this period.
2014 was the first year after reunification (1990) where the housing market had almost no free apartments (around 1%).
2015 will be the strongest housing construction since 1990.
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Berlin is a city though, not a region like the other German and French regions.

In terms of cities, there are some German and French cities that currently grow more than Berlin: Munich, Toulouse, Bordeaux, Nantes, Rennes, Montpellier. Of course in relative terms. In absolute terms (absolute population growth) Berlin grows more than Munich, Toulouse, Bordeaux, Nantes, Rennes, and Montpellier, but then Paris grows more than Berlin in absolute terms anyway.

In terms of real regions (various cities, towns, and rural areas), it's Corsica that has the highest growth, both in terms of population, GDP, and job growth.
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