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Old Posted Jun 11, 2009, 5:56 AM
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I expect more media coverage tomorrow.
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This absolutely cannot be allowed to happen! That complex is incredible! Too much has been done already!
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Trouble is brewing for one of Calgary's oldest buildings. Only the actions of one minister has kept it from the bulldozers

The news would have you choking on your beer, if Molson's hadn't shut the doors of Calgary's oldest brewery, way back in the dark days of 1994.

Indeed, the eastern brewer's decision to abandon a landmark once as prominent as the Calgary Tower, is the main reason the 117-year-old historical site is threatened with demolition at all.

Calgarians can't be expected to care, when they have no idea what they should be caring about.

And so, the request to bulldoze buildings dating back to 1892 has been made, in a demolition order filed with the City of Calgary.

If not for the remarkable intervention of a provincial minister, Inglewood's beloved brewery might soon be history, following countless Calgary historical treasures onto the garbage heap of our disposable past.

Of course, the industrial relic built by A.E. Cross may yet fall to a developer's wrecking ball, but not before Alberta Culture Minister Lindsay Blackett has a chance to measure the value of the old sandstone, brick and mortar.

"There's a recognition, that for a province that's so young, we don't have many buildings that are a hundred years old, and if we destroy all of them, we'll be wondering where our heritage of significance is," said Blackett.

"We'll be left with 30- and 40-year-old buildings and lose a lot of our character."

Blackett said he will no longer allow buildings so old to be destroyed without a provincial assessment.

Those who have watched beautiful relics of Calgary's history ripped down for new retail space, condominiums and even parking space will view Blackett's unexpected interference as a miracle.

The provincial government can, if it chooses to, declare any structure a historic resource, preventing the owner from altering it or harming it in any way.

In Calgary at least, it's almost unheard of that a minister would even consider standing in the way of a private property owner's wishes.

But Blackett says he'll do what's right, and if the brewery is worth protecting, the province won't shy away from saving it.

In the past, it seemed nothing could stop a developer determined to milk a piece of land for every penny of profit.

Owned by Ronald Mathison of Matco Investments, the brewery site is apparently slated for a combination of retail and residential, though Mathison didn't return calls.

One only has to look at the gaping hole downtown, where Penny Lane once stood, for a recent example of loss.

Penny Lane, at least, was a bustling shopping stop filled with restaurants, bars and human activity.

The Inglewood brewery, all but derelict behind its iron 9 Ave. fence, has meant nothing to Calgarians since Molson pulled the plug.

Not that the former home of Calgary Beer was at its heyday, even then.

To really understand what the brewery once was, you'd have to rewind to the 1970s.

That's when the immaculate gardens in front of the beer-making factory, opened in the 1930s, last bloomed with flowers and trees, while waterfalls, ponds and streams teemed with trout.

The brewery wasn't just about beer either -- a world-class aquarium and the Horseman's Hall of Fame museum were housed inside.

Find a postcard of Calgary dating back 40 or 50 years, and there's a good chance the brewery will be featured.

Viewing the graffiti-stained, shabby complex now, you'd never guess that underneath, some of Calgary's oldest buildings are preserved.

The demolition request includes the 1892 Brew House and Ale Cellars, considered the heart of the original Calgary Brewery and Malting Co.

Somewhere inside, there's a brew-house bar rivalling the ambiance of Europe's finest, with a grand stone fireplace and heavy wooden beams spanning a vaulted ceiling.

"To the average Calgarian, it may not be the prettiest building, or the sexiest, but even if it was the ugliest building in the city, the amount of history alone means it deserves protecting," said Chris Edwards, spokesman for the Calgary Heritage Initiative.

Edwards and his group are the civilian watchdogs for local history, and he says they are determined not to let the brewery fall, by helping to publicize its value to Calgarians.

"Our main focus right now is to draw attention to the issue."


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^ nice job DizzyEdge!
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Old Posted Jun 11, 2009, 7:12 PM
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People should look over at Skyscrapercity to see the redevelopment of the historic Carlsberg brewery in Copenhagen. It's a project not disimilar from Ramsay Exchange. This needs to be preserved and repurposed.
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That building always makes me think of that Bob and Doug McKenzie movie Strange Brew.

This travesty cannot be allowed to happen.
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Apparently I'm going to have to go on another letter-writing spree. I can hear the landowners retort already--"those buildings are old and crumbling, there's nothing left to restore. Most of the historical significance was destroyed in earlier renovations."

I've watched so much of Calgary's built history destroyed that I'm almost immune to it. But it's great that Blackett stepped in and ordered an assessment. That still might not stop it though. Anyone remember the apartment building beside the church on 13th avenue and 4th st. that 'accidentally' burnt down?
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It's good to see the Culture Minister actually stepping in and taking a stand...his predecessors were remiss in this regard.
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Sell the site to Paul Vickers. Breast implants, beer, history. It might actually make me go visit.
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Historic Calgary Brewery's future In Doubt

July 16, 2009

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CALGARY - As heritage buffs and community leaders meet today to raise alarm about the proposed partial demolition of one of Alberta's oldest industrial plants, they're baffled the site owner still hasn't explained his plans for the old Calgary Brewery site.

Calgary financier Ron Mathison's bid to demolish some brewery buildings that are up to 117 years old has been postponed by a provincial historic resource assessment that he must pay for.

Meanwhile, he has not responded to questions from the Herald or others wanting to know what will be developed in place of the structures.

"Speculation has ranged from a big box store--which of course puts the fear of God into the Inglewood Community Association--to some kind of townhouse-condo development," said Tom Hamp, president of the Chinook Country Historical Society.

The Inglewood association and heritage groups will hold a town hall tonight to discuss the site's importance to not only Calgary's industrial history, but also its founding by A. E. Cross, who also co-founded the Calgary Stampede. They will also remind Calgarians the site was once a major visitor draw with a garden, museum and aquarium, although it's been mostly fenced off and vacant for more than a decade.

Some of the buildings slated for demolition at 9th Avenue and 15th Street S. E. are sandstone or brick structures built between 1892 and 1905, when Alberta became a province. But they're either covered by chipping white plaster, obscured by newer buildings, or encased in sheet metal.

Gian-Carlo Carra of the Inglewood association has long had hopes for a redevelopment of the brewery site that would spruce up the heritage buildings. But he said he's faced indifference from Mathison, under whose ownership the site's front gates have rusted over, and the aging plant has, by the claims of his own demolition permit to the city, deteriorated. "It's now a hole at the geographical centre of our community," Carra said.

It's unknown whether Mathison will attend the town hall, which starts at 7 p. m. at the Inglewood Community Association Hall on 24th Avenue S. E.
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Even if this site is saved from demolition I fear that Mathison will use the Deteriorate and Demolish tactic; letting the site sit empty deteriorating to the point beyond restoration where demolishing it is the only viable option.
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I'm in town for the next few days and I saw a news report on this on CTV.
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The owners of the land are entitled to do what they want IMO. I wouldn't mind seeing one of those safeway/condo mixed developments. Mind you it would suck to see a plain walmart go up. That property is such an eye sore, the sooner those disgusting buildings get torn down the better. We might have something here for that area, you have those condos built by the bird sanctuary, put in some decent condos where the brewery is and voila that area has some momentum.
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^did you even read the article? There's probably a good chance the heritage value of these buildings can be restored by removing the materials put over top the original brick and sandstone materials. It is this metal and other crappy materials that make them 'ugly'. If this is a possibility, the developer would be smart to try and incorporate it into an redevelopment of the site. Heritage and the character that goes with it is worth its weight in gold for the value it brings to real estate.

Beyond that, there's also a very important social history to this site and these buildings - they are some of the oldest buildings in Calgary.

When redeveloped it would be great to have something like a grocery store. Really anywhere a grocery store can be developed in Inglewood would be a good thing.
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Just got back from the meeting, it was P A C K E D.
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D-bags like Mathison are the reason Calgary is so full of ugly parking lots. I wish scum like him would just move to Texas and flip some houses instead.
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^did you even read the article? There's probably a good chance the heritage value of these buildings can be restored by removing the materials put over top the original brick and sandstone materials. It is this metal and other crappy materials that make them 'ugly'. If this is a possibility, the developer would be smart to try and incorporate it into an redevelopment of the site. Heritage and the character that goes with it is worth its weight in gold for the value it brings to real estate.

Beyond that, there's also a very important social history to this site and these buildings - they are some of the oldest buildings in Calgary.

When redeveloped it would be great to have something like a grocery store. Really anywhere a grocery store can be developed in Inglewood would be a good thing.
It's ok Wooster, critical thought is sooo much more strenuous than kneejerk reactions.
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