BERLIN - the update thread - Page 36

one very bored guy · #**701** Posted **Jun 2, 2009, 5:33 AM**

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Originally Posted by khazars

Some discussions about the area directly below the Alex and the Molkenmarkt/Spittelmarkt areas! There could be plans to build the old Petri kirche at Spittelmarkt! plans are under discussion and maybe something more concrete by June this year for these areas especially the Marx-Engels froum which some want to leave as a park!

That area should certainly be left as a park! Where does someone get the idea to dig up a park and build on it? If they need more offices, build a couple of nice skyscrapers but leave the parks alone.

Swede · #**702** Posted **Jun 2, 2009, 9:23 AM**

^So it's a real park? that's actually used by people? if so (and I assume it is), leave it alone. Build taller near the park if that's such a great location, indeed.

/tired of any and all unbuilt spaces being called "parks". That's how the nimbys roll in Stockholm.

khazars · #**703** Posted **Jun 2, 2009, 5:39 PM**

As far as I am concerned the whole area from the Alex, South to the planned new palace should be re-built to bring back the density to down-town historical Berlin!

Berlin has enough Green areas, and certainly doesn't need another one in this, a special central area of Berlin! To do so, is another example of our nimby green- socialist- liberal policies which are sadly running riot in our European cities and destroying proper urban planning and conservation .

khazars · #**704** Posted **Jun 2, 2009, 5:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by one very bored guy

That area should certainly be left as a park! Where does someone get the idea to dig up a park and build on it? If they need more offices, build a couple of nice skyscrapers but leave the parks alone.

That area, pre war, was never a park, it was a heavily built up inner city area. Why do you want to maintain a commy waste land instead of connecting the historical Berlin from Schloss brucke up to the Alex?

See the link below and you'll see what Berlin used to look like, and hopefully, they'll re-build the density back to re-create a more coherent Berlin instead of huge green areas in historical Berlin!

tdurden5573 · #**705** Posted **Jun 7, 2009, 4:56 PM**

Wow I love Berlin now, i can only imagine what a great city it was before being destroyed. I agree that the large socialist parks and platz's are just turn out to be urban no-mans lands. I hope Berlin begins to rebuild the density around Alex and the Stadtschloss.

one very bored guy · #**706** Posted **Jun 9, 2009, 6:04 PM**

It doesn't matter what it was before it became a park, now it's a park. Plenty of parks around the world were other things before hand. I couldn't care less if crazy commies built the park. But an open green space is a pleasant thing to have in a big city and it shouldn't be built on, especially with boring generic crap like what they have planned. These are not exactly ground breaking buildings, they are bland and could be anywhere.

Questions on whether this is a park?
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...09613&t=h&z=17

khazars · #**707** Posted **Jun 12, 2009, 11:02 AM**

New hotel/office project announced at Anhalter bahnhof at Möckern/ Stresemannstraße. Completion date 2011 at cost of 60 mill!

http://www.freo-objekte.com/show_mor...0da&obj_id=216

http://www.berlinonline.de/berliner-...9889/index.php

Also announced that the Pergamon palais is to go ahead from July this year after a new investor was found!

http://www.morgenpost.de/printarchiv...die_Krise.html

Am Zirkus should also start construction next January!

http://www.morgenpost.de/berlin/arti...se_stemmt.html

khazars · #**708** Posted **Jul 3, 2009, 2:30 PM**

Motel one to build a new hotel at Spittelmarkt at the junction of Leipziger/Axel springer strasse. 300 bed 2 star hotel, 10 floors, cost 20M, to be completed by end of 2010!

Axel springer strasse to be connected to Leipziger strasse by 2011.

http://www.morgenpost.de/berlin/arti...ues_Hotel.html

khazars · #**709** Posted **Jul 4, 2009, 11:23 AM**

New apartments to be built at Linien/Rucker str in Mitte.

Translation using babel!

Extravagante free-hold flats, elegant Town and Penthouses between Hacke market and Rosenthaler place Outside a noble white marble front with swung glass areas and weightlessly seeming loggias, inside variant-rich free-hold flats with unusual sketches, time-loose-modern alignment, sumptuous beam of light, high-quality equipment and read but emergency leases a situation in one of the most exciting quarters of the capital: On whole line ambience purely! Dwellings starting from 76m ² up to Penthouses with 289m ² are offered for buyers with different needs. Whether, owing to variant-rich sketches we can react to home of one's own, town center dwelling or crisis-safe value plant flexibly to individual requirements. With the building in May 2009 one began, therefore to have early buyers still the possibility of adapting dwelling sizes or sketches to their needs.

http://www.conceptbau-premier.de/ein...enstrasse.html

http://www.ida-immobilien.de/index.php?id=5

khazars · #**710** Posted **Jul 4, 2009, 11:41 AM**

Ongoing construction in Prenzlberg, prenzlauer-gaerten, a fabulous project!

http://www.prenzlauer-gaerten.de/

Fabulous photos posted by Bato at the link below!

http://www.deutsches-architektur-for...?t=3221&page=3

Parkpalais started 2008!

http://www.stephan-hoehne-architekte...ils.php?id=123

khazars · #**711** Posted **Jul 4, 2009, 12:16 PM**

In planning Prenzlauer Bogen.

Renderings from the links below!

http://www.noefer.de/index.php?id=detail&item=17&pic=1

http://www.urbanspaces.de/index.php?...iewItem&ID=186

khazars · #**712** Posted **Jul 5, 2009, 11:09 AM**

current planning for Molkenmarkt, hopefully a decision will be made
soon and construction can start soon!

http://www.stadtentwicklung.berlin.d...08/index.shtml

khazars · #**713** Posted **Jul 7, 2009, 3:44 PM**

Alexanderplatz A5 area below!

Construction of Silver and Gold hotels on Karl Liebknecht str just
north of the Alexanderplatz is to start.

The three-star plus hotel is opened as Ramada hotel and will have 336
rooms, the two-star plus hotel will have 280 rooms which are to open
2011 in the spring.

Cost 80 Million by TLG!

http://www.stadtentwicklung.berlin.d...lg/index.shtml

http://www.immobilienscout24.de/4655...igationbarurl=

http://www.berlinonline.de/berliner-...040/index.html

Swede · #**714** Posted **Jul 7, 2009, 6:02 PM**

I'm liking what I'm seeing

looks like Berlin architects aren't anti-urbanity the way Stockholm ones are.

merlia · #**715** Posted **Jul 8, 2009, 9:42 AM**

Awesome. I definitely need once for my holidays.

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tdurden5573 · #**716** Posted **Jul 8, 2009, 9:44 PM**

Great projects, i like the approach to regain high density in Mitte - Thx for the updates.

khazars · #**717** Posted **Aug 3, 2009, 4:59 PM**

Current construction at Osthafen, Hotel am Osthafen.

http://www.n-d-c.de/currentprojects.html

Webcam at the link below!

http://www.bam-deutschland.de/de/nod...e/webcams.html

khazars · #**718** Posted **Aug 8, 2009, 11:29 AM**

U55 opens in Berlin!

http://www.morgenpost.de/berlin/arti...ue_U_Bahn.html

http://www.morgenpost.de/berlin/arti...perlative.html

http://translate.google.com/translat...rlin%26hl%3Den

Some pics of opening day of the U55 posted at the links below!

http://www.deutsches-architektur-for...t=2271&page=15

one very bored guy · #**719** Posted **Aug 10, 2009, 12:01 AM**

^^ Excellent news, and now we can look forward to the next three stations in what is possibly the slowest construction project in the world.

khazars · #**720** Posted **Aug 10, 2009, 12:57 PM**

Yea, it took what 5 years to build the Brandenburg Tor station, cost for U55 somewhere around 400 mill? The next section to take 5-7 years at around 400 mill as well?

Strange, as Madrid built Metro Sur line 12 at a cost of 1 Billion, 40 km with 25 stations in what 2-3 years!

The problem is Berlin’s high water table and sandy soil, plus the plethora of historic buildings in the area. It would be a great opportunity if they also built the first small section of the U3/U10 line from the Alex down to Leipziger strasse at Jersulamer strasse with a station in between at Muhlendamm/Getrauden strasse? This would get the most difficult section out of the way as that planned line, like the next U5 section has to cross the river Spree twice! They could also build the future Rathaus station as an exchange station between the U5 and U3/10.

However, Berlin has no money and as yet we don’t even know if this line will ever be built as they are already discussing a tram line instead from the Alex, along Leipiger strasse to Potsdamerplatz- kultur forum!

Future planning from 2004 of the U-bahn for the Alexanderplatz area, shows the future u11 and U3 lines!

http://www.stadtentwicklung.berlin.d...np/index.shtml

The planning area Alexanderplatz with the affiliated projects is situated within the small innercity ring, where the preparatory land use plan shows no superordinated arterial roads. The plan shows the existing subway-lines U2, U5 and U8 as well as further railway lines and the new construction of the subway-line U3. It also shows the planned continuation of the U3 in western direction and the U11 below Mollstraße. The viaduct of the city railway is defined as railway installation.