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One town. A tale of three contemporary eateries? The dates are probably posted elsewhere but it is not a stretch to presume these are all from the late '50s. All from this bunch:http://images.google.com/hosted/life...f086b543c.html


An appetizer.












Did Dewey eat here?

Googies, Bob's Big Boy and so many others. If we haven't done so already, how 'bout adding Truman's - 1222 Westwood Boulevard to the list. Evidently gone by 1969-1970.
http://www.over-the-moon.us/OLYPEN_I...manschrome.jpg

Ebay













Reversed image.



*Some of you may enjoy this look through someone's '50s-'60s LA-related sock drawer. Any idea when the DMV first started including pictures on drivers licenses? http://unihi61.com/memorabilia.htm






Did Pupi's precede Pipi's?

Pupi's - 8710 Sunset Blvd. Sure looks like a sit down on the [Sunset] Strip.









Same restaurant with reversed image? Pupi's in reverse.




At least '73 judging by autos.


http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/reg/RN-125-2.jpg



When neither Westwood nor the Strip are part of the immediate plan.



Soup and Japanese Films at the Linda Lea?


Main Street. The Midnight Mission. Skid Row.















Linda Lea 251 S. Main Street

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"That house must be 30 to 35 years old".... While working on other things, I ran across a photo online of a house high on cribs in the process of being moved "from Hollywood to East 90th Street." Apparently looking for diversion, I decided to "drive" east on 90th from Main to see if the house, with a distinctive roofline, could be found. To make a short story long, I was enjoying the ride through some of the most fascinating but unsung districts of LA. Then when the powerline towers came into view I felt a sense of déjà vu... I realize I'd looked for this same house before, after CBD posted a picture of it two years ago. So now that they're available online, I thought I'd dig out the permits for the move etc ...but I didn't realize that the property is outside of the city limits, which apparently is not covered by the LADBS. (BPs for 1022 N. Genesee and the name "Tortaglio" are elusive, too.) I'm not sure why I never looked for anything in the Times two years ago, but here's the full story on the mobile home from Sept 1, 1958... seems it was raised UP AND OVER the streetside house at 1623 East 90th.






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'' OK guys, can you get it just a little bit higher....up, up, up...there, just right.''

East 90th Street ...South Central.


LAPL

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Had to take at look... the house appears to have been being delivered to its new lot, where it still stands. Perhaps right behind the truck was another delivery for the same lot--is that a bit of the second truck at far right? Or was this house being moved around to the back of the front house's lot? In any case, two vintage houses are now on the lot:




The blue house at left middle is the one is CBD's pic. Its former address appears to be "3022" or maybe "5022"... I wonder where it came from?




Was the front house built there or also moved to the lot?




Across the street is 1626 East 90th--note the powerline tower. The house has been altered, but there are some façade details that remain.



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Old Posted Jun 30, 2016, 10:26 PM
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More NLA coverage on Stanwyck: http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=29649 not counting any Double Indemnity posts.
Well, since you brought it up, I went downtown to the United Artists Theatre last week to see a
"Last Remaining Seats" presentation of Double Indemnity.


The blade sign is 8 stories tall!


Steve & Michelle Gerdes / Flickr


One of the gargoyles is operating a movie camera:


Steve & Michelle Gerdes / Flickr


Now called The Theatre at Ace Hotel
929 S.Broadway




The street in 1947:

DTLA Theatres

It's noted: Sharp sleuths figured out that the film in the photo above was
"Smash Up: The Story of a Woman" starring Susan Hayward and Lee Bowman, 1947.


DOUBLE INDEMNITY
South Olive & West 5th St., Los Angeles, CA
1944 & Today

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Old Posted Jun 30, 2016, 10:33 PM
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Yes. I'm mistaken at Temple and Hill.
I used to like that the role of an occasional news reporter on the TV series Simon and Simon was named Temple Hill.
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Did Pupi's precede Pipi's?

Pupi's - 8710 Sunset Blvd. Sure looks like a sit down on the [Sunset] Strip.



Same restaurant with reversed image? Pupi's in reverse.


At least '73 judging by autos.


http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/reg/RN-125-2.jpg
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Not sure I'd want to eat at a place called Pupi's. When I was looking for information about The Raincheck, I posted this little item. Is Jack in these photos?

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In: Jack's Life: A Biography of Jack Nicholson by Patrick McGilligan, page 107:

Jack and his friends frequented Chez Paulette's, where Brando liked to go, across the street from 77 Sunset Strip, The Unicorn, a beatnik coffeehouse and bookshop where Lenny Bruce did standup, they'd play darts at a bar called the Raincheck Room, down the street from the Players Ring, they pitched pennies at Barney's Beanery, or they'd repair to Pupi's, lingering for hours over dessert and coffee.
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What I didn't include, also from that book:

June Allyson and Louella Parsons might be spotted stopping by for pastries, but Jack's crowd were serious habitues, anchored there. They had long-drawn-out debates at Pupi's, interrupted by hi-jinks—Charles Eastman, Carole's brother, a massive balding giant, cracking them all up by standing and executing a Sonja Henie imitation.

Pupi's is where Jack flew into one of his storied rages one night, quarreling with a waitress and threatening to kick in a pastry cart. That is the incident Carole Eastman said she drew on when she wrote the famous "no substitutions" scene for Bobby Dupea (Jack's character) in Five Easy Pieces:

Bobby (Nicholson): You've got bread and a toaster of some kind?
Waitress: I don't make the rules.
Bobby: Okay, I'll make it as easy for you as I can. I'd like an omelette, plain, and a chicken salad sandwich on wheat toast, no mayonnaise, no butter, no lettuce, and a cup of coffee.
Waitress: A number two, chicken sal san, hold the butter, the lettuce, and the mayonnaise, and a cup of coffee. Anything else?
Bobby: Yeah. Now all you have to do is hold the chicken, bring me the toast, give me a check for the chicken salad sandwich, and you haven't broken any rules.
Waitress: You want me to hold the chicken, huh?
Bobby: I want you to hold it between your knees...
[Bobby sweeps the table clean and storms out the door.]
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This Julius Shulman photo was another job for Wailes-Bageman. It's "Job 116: Winning-Peplow Inc., 1947".



Getty Research Institute

Although there's no information with the image, I was able to find Winning-Peplow Inc in the City Directories. The address was 2501 San Fernando Road. The building permit is dated February 1947, with the sign below coming along five months later.


Online Building Records

The building is still standing, and was looking pretty intact in 2014.


GSV

Sadly, by the end of 2015, the building received a makeover that blocked in every opening.


GSV
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On occasion we've had some photos where we try to figure out the Hollywood celebrities in the photographs.



This is a photo at the Hollywood Canteen with several people checking out the Hollywood Hall of Honor, which
were those in the entertainment industry in the armed services. It's dated 1944. Six of the seven people
pictured are named: Director Mervyn LeRoy, pointing, Bette Davis, Jane Wyman, Marlene Dietrich, Bob Hope
and Joan Leslie. Who in the group is not named?

If anyone wants to, I'd like see if we can name the people on the Hollywood Hall of Honor.






TOP ROW #1:
1:
2:
3:
4:
5:
6:
7:
8:
9:
10: (not pictured)


ROW #2:
11:
12:
13:
14:
15:
16:
17:
18:
19:
20: (not pictured)


MIDDLE ROW #3:
21:
22:
23:
24: John Ford (? director)

25: HOLLYWOOD
26: HALL OF HONOR

27:
28:
29:
30: (very little shown)


ROW #4:
31:
32:
33:
34: Cesar Romero (?)
35: Ronald Reagan
36: Clark Gable
37:
38:
39:
40: (mostly seen)


BOTTOM ROW #5:
41:
42:William Powell (?)
43:
44: Henry Fonda
45: Victor Mature (?)
46:
47:
48:
49:
50: (mostly seen)


I put in a few suggestions to start.

In the next post are five related photos that might help to see some of
the pictures better, though in at least one of them, some photos aren't
in the same location, so be aware of that.


Awesome! Shepperd Strudwick, #8 in the first 2 photos, is my Grandfather!
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepperd_Strudwick

This guy?
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Handsome grandfather.
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#29 is Robert Stack.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepperd_Strudwick

This guy?
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Handsome grandfather.
Yep, That's him. I never met him. My grandmother Jane Straub was married 4 times. My father Peter Strudwick got tired of changing his name and stopped at Strudwick. Geneologically I should be a Dyer-Bennett. I could have been a Mead, like my cousins. I prefer the Strudwick name and am proud to have it.
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'mystery' location.


eBay


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The Orange County Archives on Flickr identify the location as Chapman at Brookhurst, Garden Grove, circa 1959. A comment by 49er Badger says
"Comparing this photo with the 1972 aerial shot on historicaerials.com seems to confirm the location: Chapman at Brookhurst, looking southwest."
Here's the same intersection in 1971 during a downpour.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/ocarchives/3041521309

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We've seen this gsv view a few times on NLA.



Looking west across Barham Blvd. bridge toward Cahuenga blvd. W.



I happened across this photograph that shows the same location in the 1960s.


eBay


So, is anyone familiar with this Joe Shell dude?
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Okay, I just found this second photograph.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/LA14-1962-Jo...cAAOSwepJXZzEg

(I just realized this is near where I used to live.)



Here's the building with the 'Bernice' sign today. (home to 'Book Soup')



Looking at Sunset Blvd. from (near) Horn Avenue.


detail / 1960s view



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This photograph is downright amazing!


eBay

On reverse: "First Elect. Car Line in L.A. 1886"









for search purposes:

Electric R.R. Maple Av. & Pico St.

detail



right side of the photo, with a residence at the end of the street.

detail



I wonder what this dark shape is between the end of the track and the house? (it's a bit clearer in the photograph above)



It might be open in the middle.

because a small portion of the picket fence is visible through it.....unless I'm seeing things.




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Before I sign off for the night, I have one more thing I'd like to have.......errrr......I mean post.


It looks like someone carried this 1937 'coin' around as a good luck token. (note the wear)



21 hours left in the auction:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-or-12-MEDA...QAAOSwbYZXdHJM

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Looking west across Barham Blvd. bridge toward Cahuenga blvd. W.
I happened across this photograph that shows the same location in the 1960s.


eBay

So, is anyone familiar with this Joe Shell dude?
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No, I'd never heard of him, but decided to see who he was. He had a full plate in his time, even though we've not heard of him. Wikipedia says, "Shell is best remembered for having unsuccessfully opposed Richard Nixon in the primary election for governor of California on June 5, 1962. Shell, however, contended that Nixon actually opposed him, for Shell had been committed to the governor's race for a year before Nixon's own entry. When Shell declared his candidacy for governor, he did not expect Nixon to run because the former vice president had vacillated for several months about a potential candidacy and had a national perspective, rather than extensive interest in state government.

Shell represented District 58 (West Los Angeles - the Wilshire area) in the California State Assembly from 1953-1963 and was the Assembly Republican Minority Leader.

Nixon won the primary, but he famously lost the election to Pat Brown in the fall and then gave his famous, "You won't have Dick Nixon to kick around any more" speech in the Beverly Hilton Hotel.

Campaign intrigue: During the gubernatorial primary campaign, Shell's plane was sabotaged: somehow, barium was placed in the second fuel tank. Had the pilot not discovered the problem, the plane would have crashed.
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By the way, I just noticed in the picture above, is something going on there? Was there an accident? There's the guy standing in front of that yellow van and the doors are open; is the hood on the white car to the right of the van supposed to look like that? I'm guessing that isn't Rlaph Nader in the Corvair?
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Awesome! Shepperd Strudwick, #8 in the first 2 photos, is my Grandfather!
Thanks for sharing that information about your family, Diamond-X!
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Monastery of the Angels/Giroux Estate

The address of this property is 1977 Carmen Avenue, between Vista Del Mar Avenue and Gower Street, north of Franklin.
The land was purchased in early 1910 by Joseph L. Giroux, whose career was in mining, especially copper:


February 24, 1910, LA Herald @ CDNC via UC Riverside


Giroux had architect Frederick Roehrig design his home, which was completed in early 1912:



January 14, 1912, LA Times @ ProQuest via LAPL

From the same article, here is a drawing of the house and grounds:



The Giroux Estate (undated):


00043054 @ LAPL


Here is a clearer shot, also undated:


00043052 @ LAPL


"Everything in the place was copper, right down to the doorknobs and bathtub," recalled a later resident:


June 1912 The Architect and Engineer of California @ HathiTrust


Here is the pergola visible at the left side of the above photo:


00043051 @ LAPL


The loggia:


00043053 @ LAPL


Some of the gardens on the west side of the house:


00043055 @ LAPL


The landscaping had matured by the time of this c. 1925 photo:


00043049 @ LAPL


The 1913 LA City Directory was the first to show Giroux at 1977 Carmen:


fold3.com

In the home's first few years, Giroux made some minor additions and changes, such as the addition in 1913 of a one-room
"summer house" with a dirt floor on the west side of the property, described on the building permit as "bamboo house covered
with shingle + grass over same / 4 bamboo post + bracing for support"

Giroux had some trouble with a maid in 1914:




October 5, 1914, LA Times @ ProQuest via LAPL


Tragically, Giroux had more serious trouble with his eldest son, George. It is even more sad considering Giroux had to take
his ex-wife to court to get physical custody of his son when he was a child:


January 29, 1920, LA Times @ ProQuest via LAPL

Giroux was exonerated in the shooting of his son. George had come at his father with a loaded revolver. As the two
struggled over a second revolver, George was shot.

His son's widow sued Giroux for $1,000,000, but she lost:


May 27, 1921, LA Times @ ProQuest via LAPL


Giroux experienced another heartbreak in 1929 when Joseph, one of his three sons from his second marriage,
died at age 34. Giroux died at age 78 on June 25, 1933. The following year, his Hollywood estate was sold:


September 23, 1934, LA Times @ ProQuest via LAPL


The Giroux Mansion is visible in this 1972 aerial photo, below the undeveloped area in the upper right corner and
the directly below the word MATERIAL:


Historic Aerials

The Giroux Mansion was torn down in 1973; the demo permit is dated August 2. The convent almost closed in 2009,
but the nuns are famous for their pumpkin bread, the sale of which helps keep the place open. It's really good bread!

This is what the property looks like now. The pink star marks the site of the former Giroux Mansion. Some of the original
stairs and retaining walls appear to still be in place:


Google Earth 2016
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Fantastic post on the Giroux Mansion Flyingwedge! I wasn't aware it ever existed.

Why the decision to tear it down? I mean, it wasn't replaced with anything and they kept the mansion grounds pretty much intact. It seems such a shame.
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http://hollywoodwalker.blogspot.com/...20the%20Angels




There's a rather intense art deco statue of a soldier/angel guarding the parking lot. (circled in red below)


google_earth



here he is!


http://hollywoodwalker.blogspot.com/...20the%20Angels


from within.

http://www.op.org/en/content/monastery-among-stars

If anyone can find out more about this statue I'd really appreciate it.





& last but not least, here's the pumpkin bread FW mentioned.


http://www.yelp.com/biz/monastery-of...ls-los-angeles


from Suzanne G. on Yelp.

The Monastery gave their recipe to the LA Times back in the 1970's and I've been making it ever since.
I still have the newspaper clipping on my inside kitchen cabinet because I make it so often. Here's the original recipe:


Monastery of the Angels Pumpkin Bread:

Preheat over to 350 degrees

3 1/2 flour
3 cups sugar
2 teas. baking soda
1 teas. cinnamon
1 teas. ground nutmeg
1 1/2 teas. salt
4 eggs beaten (I use Jumbo)
1 cup veg. oil
2/3 cup water
2 cups pure canned pumpkin (I use Libby's)
1 cup walnuts (optional)
1 cup golden raisins (optional)

Mix eggs, oil, water and pumpkin & set aside.
Mix all dry ingredients

Add dry mixture to wet ingredients a cup at a time until smooth with either a whisk or mixer.

This will make (3) 5X9 loaves.

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By the way, I just noticed in the picture above, is something going on there? Was there an accident? There's the guy standing in front of that yellow van and the doors are open; is the hood on the white car to the right of the van supposed to look like that?
I can't figure out if it's an accident or not MP. (the car next to it does look a little crumpled) -like you mentioned.

My eye keeps returning to that black foreign looking car on the right. (circled below)


detail

It looks British to me, but the steering wheel is on the left side.
Anyone know what it is?
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Thanks for the information on Joe Shell M P.

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"Joe Shell is best remembered for having unsuccessfully opposed Richard Nixon in the primary election for governor of California on June 5, 1962. Shell, however, contended that Nixon actually opposed him, for Shell had been committed to the governor's race for a year before Nixon's own entry. When Shell declared his candidacy for governor, he did not expect Nixon to run because the former vice president had vacillated for several months about a potential candidacy and had a national perspective, rather than extensive interest in state government. Nixon won the primary, but he famously lost the election to Pat Brown in the fall.

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Here's some additional information:

Joe Shell was the captain of the USC's 1939 national championship football team.


http://www.usctrojans.com/sports/m-f...040808aaa.html

class pic.



Later he was an independent oil producer, drilling in Kern County while living in Los Angeles.
(I wonder if he had any connection with the Shell Oil Company, or was his last name just a coincidence?)



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Campaign intrigue: During the gubernatorial primary campaign, Shell's plane was sabotaged: somehow, barium was placed in the second fuel tank.
Had the pilot not discovered the problem, the plane would have crashed.
I bet Tricky Dicky had a hand in it.
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