So what Jacksonville doesn't look like the lake shore of Chicago. It's a good skyline.
For a small/ medium sized town, yeah. Not so much for a metro pushing 2 million.
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Now Des Moines, IA, that's a city that punches above it's weight. Their skyline is quite impressive for 500,000 people and even more impressive when you consider the fact that the city population is only 220,000 and that the metro was about 400,000 in 1990 and is now over 600k.
One of my favorite moments on this forum occurred when I posted something positive about the development of light rail in Dallas, speculating that over a long enough period of time it would have a visible and positive impact on the built form of that city and region. This was just too much for a certain frequent contributor to stomach. His name pops up here frequently, but I won't name names. At any rate, this certain frequent contributor took it upon himself to inform me that Dallas would never ever resemble the built form of Paris in any way, shape, or form. Wow! Just wow! I never would have guessed. I was rendered speechless by this "revelation" and never commented about it until now.
^^^ Something similar happened in the All Aboard Florida thread. They said Brightline would fail due to low ridership and the fact that it's at grade ( even though you can't build underground in Miami, West Palm Beach, etc.
I'm just glad some urban developments are happening in the Sunbelt. I could give a rat's buttocks if they never reach the scale of New York or Chicago. And with the amount of elitist urbanites here, I hope Sunbelt cities never acquire such a large demographic. That line of thinking can grow into the NIMBY mindset
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One of my favorite moments on this forum occurred when I posted something positive about the development of light rail in Dallas, speculating that over a long enough period of time it would have a visible and positive impact on the built form of that city and region. This was just too much for a certain frequent contributor to stomach. His name pops up here frequently, but I won't name names. At any rate, this certain frequent contributor took it upon himself to inform me that Dallas would never ever resemble the built form of Paris in any way, shape, or form. Wow! Just wow! I never would have guessed. I was rendered speechless by this "revelation" and never commented about it until now.
I suspect this is a 100% fakenews account of a previous thread.
This is an overused point. True urbanity and density have arisen in car-age cities even in the US.
It starts with simply allowing these things, which Sunbelt cities generally make difficult or impossible. The second step is actively encouraging urbanity by restricting outward sprawl by legislation in addition to any natural barriers.
Yet you continue to gloss over the historical and technological reasons over and over as to why Phoenix does not look like Chicago. Do you think had Phoenix been built up in the 1800's rather than the second half of the 1900's, we'd be having this conversation? Drive a few miles outside of Chicago and a few of its nicer inner ring 'burbs and it looks like suburban Phoenix but without the cactus and mountains. Same shitty suburbs and sprawl.
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