Automobile Thread - Page 2

BrandonJXN · #21 Posted **Aug 8, 2009, 6:53 PM**

Mercury isn't a high profile brand like Chevy or Honda. But it does have it's place in the automotive world. Why do you think the Grand Marquis (see Ford Crown Victoria and Lincoln Town Car) has lasted for as long as it has?

But Mercury does have plans on bringing over some of Euro Ford's cars. Namely the Mondeo.

detmsp · #22 Posted **Aug 8, 2009, 6:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by ThreeHundred

Mercury isn't a high profile brand like Chevy or Honda. But it does have it's place in the automotive world. Why do you think the Grand Marquis (see Ford Crown Victoria and Lincoln Town Car) has lasted for as long as it has?

But Mercury does have plans on bringing over some of Euro Ford's cars. Namely the Mondeo.

The mondeo is a great looking car. I thought i heard a while back that the mondeo / fusion platforms would merge. so does that mean mondeo = next gen milan?

BrandonJXN · #23 Posted **Aug 8, 2009, 7:08 PM**

Could be. Even though the Mondeo is a bit bigger than the Milan. I still say that Mercury needs to bring back the Marauder.

detmsp · #24 Posted **Aug 8, 2009, 11:15 PM**

^base it off the taurus sho?

BrandonJXN · #25 Posted **Aug 9, 2009, 5:56 PM**

Actually, I would bring the Ford Falcon from Australia. Modify it a bit so it could appeal to mothers and speed freaks. I would give it 3 engine choices: Base would be 280 hp. Mid range would be 350. And the high end (which I would name the Marauder Black) would be 445 hp.

FREKI · #26 Posted **Aug 9, 2009, 8:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by View2gowanus

The Zero-Emission Sedan of the Future. A Reality Today.
In California at least where Honda have leased out a few hundred of the FCX Clarity hydrogen fuel cell sedans. The exhaust is water.

http://automobiles.honda.com/fcx-clarity/

I love how they spin it like that...

In reality water vapour is just as much a greenhouse gas as carbon dioxide - and with the power needed to produce the fuel cells these cars ends up emitting a lot more greenhouse gasses than even the largest SUV would..

Anyways great thread - love virtually all new ones shown here so far!

BrandonJXN · #27 Posted **Aug 10, 2009, 10:30 PM**

So GM released it's upcoming product via Twitter. Here are some of the highlights:

* GM unveiled a new Cadillac concept dubbed the ATS, a compact BMW 3 Series fighter that will be available in both coupe and sedan forms.

* The Cadillac DTS' replacement – currently named the XTS – will be built atop the Buick LaCrosse's underpinnings and will be available with all-wheel drive.

* The CTS Coupe is due to arrive this May, and there's still talk of a V version (duh). Apparently GM has a working CTS-V SportWagon on premises and it could arrive as early as next year.

* New Chevrolet Malibu unveiled, but it supposedly won't reach production until 2012.

* All-new midsize Buick model coming within the next 24 months.

detmsp · #28 Posted **Aug 11, 2009, 2:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by FREKI

I love how they spin it like that...

In reality water vapour is just as much a greenhouse gas and carbon dioxide - and with the power needed to produce the fuel cells these cars ends up emitting a lot more greenhouse gasses than even the largest SUV would..

Anyways great thread - love virtually all new ones shown here so far!

i also love how they are leasing about 100 of them at a huge loss just so they can say "look at us, we're the only company with a fuel cell car on the market!" GM has 100 fuel cell equinoxs in the hands of the public. the difference? GM isn't charging people to be their guinea pigs like honda.

Kudos to everyone for keeping the discussion focused on cars. I'm so sick of every car discussion eventually turning into politics, bailouts, etc...

BrandonJXN · #29 Posted **Aug 11, 2009, 4:49 PM**

So according to GM, the 2011 Chevy Volt will get 230 mpg!!!!

dchan · #30 Posted **Aug 11, 2009, 7:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by ThreeHundred

So according to GM, the 2011 Chevy Volt will get 230 mpg!!!!

Time to classify it as a "light truck" or "SUV"!!

BrandonJXN · #31 Posted **Aug 13, 2009, 11:54 PM**

2010 Hyundai Equus

BrandonJXN · #32 Posted **Aug 18, 2009, 6:12 PM**

2010 Hyundai Tucson

FREKI · #33 Posted **Aug 18, 2009, 6:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by ThreeHundred

So according to GM, the 2011 Chevy Volt will get 230 mpg!!!!

That is such a faulty comparison, it's an battery powered car, so it could get infinite "MPGs" as long as you only run on battery, but when you start using the gas engine to generate electricity then it drops down to normal is not subpar levels..

They really need a new way to messure consuption, the MPG/KM per liter is useless when dealiting with electrical cars...

BrandonJXN · #34 Posted **Aug 18, 2009, 7:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by FREKI

That is such a faulty comparison, it's an battery powered car, so it could get infinite "MPGs" as long as you only run on battery, but when you start using the gas engine to generate electricity then it drops down to normal is not subpar levels..

They really need a new way to messure consuption, the MPG/KM per liter is useless when dealiting with electrical cars...

Actually, it's very logical that the Chevy Volt can get up to 230 mpg.

From CNN.com

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Fuel economy for hybrid vehicles like the Toyota Prius is displayed in the same way as it is for any other gasoline-powered vehicle. It gets 46 mpg, for example, versus 19 mpg for a V-6 Ford Mustang.

That standard works because all the energy used by the Prius ultimately comes from burning gasoline. The Prius just uses that energy more efficiently than other cars do.

The Chevrolet Volt, on other hand, runs on electricity that comes from two sources -- a battery as well as a gasoline engine.

When gasoline is providing the power, the Volt might get as much as 50 mpg. But that mpg figure would not take into account that the car has already gone 40 miles with no gas at all.

So let's say the car is driven 50 miles in a day. For the first 40 miles, no gas is used and during the last 10 miles, 0.2 gallons are used. That's the equivalent of 250 miles per gallon. But, if the driver continues on to 80 miles, total fuel economy would drop to about 100 mpg. And if the driver goes 300 miles, the fuel economy would be just 62.5 mpg.

The Volt will need to be plugged in at night to recharge. The company said it estimates it will need 10 kilowatt hours for the recharge necessary to travel 40 miles. That should cost a total of about 40 cents at off-peak electricity rates in Detroit, Henderson said.

* It plugs in to a normal wall socket.
* It will also charge on a 240 volt circuit.
* It is large enough to be a reasonable mode of transport for nearly anyone.
* It has a relatively inexpensive battery setup.
* It has a battery that's designed to operate for 10 years before it needs replacing.
* It has extended range, via a gasoline motor.
* It comes in at nearly half the price of all electric cars before it.
* It receives government support and subsidy to get people buying it.
* It comes with regenerative braking.
* It operates in all climates.
* It comes with (optional) solar panels to charge on the go.

mr jones · #35 Posted **Aug 18, 2009, 8:28 PM**

What's an auto thread without at least one picture of a Mercedes-Benz W124 500E500

Source: my HD

BrandonJXN · #36 Posted **Aug 18, 2009, 9:19 PM**

2010 Bentley Mulsanne (Phantom still looks better)

mr jones · #37 Posted **Aug 18, 2009, 9:45 PM**

That isn't replacing the Arnage I hope!

BrandonJXN · #38 Posted **Aug 18, 2009, 9:48 PM**

^ It is. Sorry buddy.

mr jones · #39 Posted **Aug 18, 2009, 9:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by ThreeHundred

^ It is. Sorry buddy.

Oh, I cannot believe it! I love the styling of the Arnage, all Bentley's recent/new stuff is.. blah... same with RollsRoyce. What a shame

detmsp · #40 Posted **Aug 22, 2009, 1:57 AM**

so who else is super bummed that none of the auto journos were able to sneak some camera phone pics of the caddy XTS / ATS, new malibu, new gmc and whatever else got shown to the media last week? i thought for sure by now something would have found it's way onto the interwebs.