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Old Posted Mar 7, 2015, 4:11 PM
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I was thinking a main page where the first post has a huge directory of NYC project threads (links), and we can do something for projects 100m-199m. This thread being for supertalls and significant skyscrapers greater than 200m as it has been. Almost like the CHicago boom rundown, only for NYC.
I say go for it! We desperately need a new highrise thread. F.e., I noticed that for completed projects between 600 und 650', CTBUH is pretty much accurate.

The New York boom is about 3 times more massive than Chicago's in the 00s, so we really need a compilation thread. The city is competing with Asian cities, pretty incredible.

Btw., good idea about linking the threads. I'll link the supertalls on the first page (and in the coming days the rest...).

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Old Posted Mar 7, 2015, 4:39 PM
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Sounds good. I will work on it this weekend.
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Old Posted Mar 7, 2015, 5:46 PM
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Started it. Its up in the compilation. Will continue to add more later on. Right now need to go somewhere. But its a start so far. Much more work is needed.

Thread: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=216002
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Old Posted Mar 7, 2015, 8:25 PM
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Referenced your thread hunser in the highrise thread under useful compilations threads. Front page is almost done. Added almost every single thread for nyc on SSP to the directory on the first page. Just need to add the ones under construction.

Also added a CTBUH list of 98m to 400 plus for every NYC project. As of March 2015.
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Old Posted Mar 7, 2015, 10:28 PM
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Major update! Now, all buildings have been linked. Also, I added a new areal pic ...
For projects <656 feet please visit Chris' compilation threads.
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Old Posted Mar 8, 2015, 3:47 PM
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Added two more high rise sets. Almost done covering all the high rises for the 2014/15 cycle. Also added links for threads to JC and Newark projects.

I might add links for the photo threads but not sure yet.

Its so many projects lol. I know you wanted to do the Shenzhen thing hunser and thats probably even more work.

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I noticed that for completed projects between 600 und 650', CTBUH is pretty much accurate.
Yea I agree. I decided to go with them, they are accurate. For now I set the limit at 98m and above, but maybe I will add 35m or above in the future. Thing is, for high rises 35m to 97m, the list jumps incredibly, so I think for sake of length, I'll stay at the current constraints of [98, 400m +).
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Old Posted Mar 8, 2015, 8:08 PM
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Added two more high rise sets. Almost done covering all the high rises for the 2014/15 cycle. Also added links for threads to JC and Newark projects.

I might add links for the photo threads but not sure yet.

Its so many projects lol. I know you wanted to do the Shenzhen thing hunser and thats probably even more work.


Yea I agree. I decided to go with them, they are accurate. For now I set the limit at 98m and above, but maybe I will add 35m or above in the future. Thing is, for high rises 35m to 97m, the list jumps incredibly, so I think for sake of length, I'll stay at the current constraints of [98, 400m +).
Awesome job. Look great already! Also, love that tip with ctrl + F for search!
Re: Shenzhen: Hush ... you got no proof. Excuse me while I go and edit my previous statements ...

And I concure - 98m is already pushing it. There are too many buildings <98m to cover.

Btw I'm going to add your compilation threads in my sig - we need more advertising.
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: The building is under construction
■ : The building has been completed


One World Trade Center -541M (Completed 2014)
225 W57th -541M (Completed by 2018)
740 8th Ave +500M (completed by 2020)
1 Vanderbilt -461M (Completed by 2020)
111 W57th -433M (Completed by 2017)
432 Park -426M (Completed 2015)
125 Greenwich -412M (Completed by 2017)
Two World Trade Center -411M (U/C by 2020)
335 Madison +400M (Completed by 2020)
Hudson Spire +400M (Completed by 2020)
Shvo Central Park Tower +400M (Site prep by 2020)
80 South Street ~400M (Completed by 2020)
360 10th Ave ~400M (Completed by 2020)
30 Hudson Yards -392M (Completed by 2018)
Empire State Building -381M (Completed 1931)
15 Penn -371M (Site Prep by 2020)
Bank of America Tower, -366M (Completed 2009)
50 Hudson Yards +350M (Completed by 2020)
520 W41st -331M (Completed by 2020)
Three World Trade Center -327M (Completed by 2018)
Girasole -323M (Completed by 2018)
Tower Verre -320M (Completed by 2018)
Chrysler Building -319M (Completed 1930)
New York Times Tower -318M (Completed 2007)
One57 -306M (Completed 2014)
34th and 10th Ave+304M (Completed by 2020)
237 Park +304M (Completed by 2020)
341 Madison +304M (Completed by 2020)
Park Lane tower +304M (Completed by 2020)
31 W 57th +304M (Completed by 2019)
35 Hudson Yards +304M (Completed by 2017)
Cetra Rudy UES Tower +304M (U/C by 2020)
Wanda Tower +304M (Site prep by 2020)
SHoP Brooklyn Tower +304M (Completed by 2020)
1710 Broadway +304M (Completed by 2020)
One Manhattan West -303M (Completed by 2020)
Two Manhattan West -303M (U/C by 2020)

37 Supertalls are currently in various stages of construction (5), completion (6), prep (12 +3 likely supertalls), on hold (1) and proposal (13). We have a total of 40 when likely supertalls are added!

281 5th +304M (Completed by 2020)
520 5th +304M (Completed by 2020)
3 West 29th +304M (Completed by 2020)


NYC is going above and beyond even my wildest expectations

#edit:
Added 740 8th Avenue to the list as a tower

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-styl...icle-1.2043630
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Experts said the Times Square tower could be Barnett’s tallest yet and would most likely be a hotel, despite Barnett’s tendency towards building luxurious condos.

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Old Posted Mar 10, 2015, 4:20 PM
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Better rendering of 111W by DBOX:



Also: 75-83 Nassau St is now 498ft, so <200m.
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Whats going to be the highest occupiable floor 111W? It looks like the top 20 floors will be too small for anything.
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Old Posted Mar 10, 2015, 7:33 PM
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Whats going to be the highest occupiable floor 111W? It looks like the top 20 floors will be too small for anything.
About 1,200 feet. Last 200 feet are mechanicals, mass damper and the crown.
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29-37 41st Street is now 70 floors and 772 feet.

Thread: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...=1#post6946617
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29-37 41st Street is now 70 floors and 772 feet.

Thread: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...=1#post6946617
Fantastic news! Makes up for the massive height cut at 75 Nassau St.!
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2015, 1:48 PM
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An awesome areal featuring New York's 5 skyline clusters: Midtown, Downtown, LIC, DoBro and JC.




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An awesome areal featuring New York's 5 skyline clusters: Midtown, Downtown, LIC, DoBro and JC.
Holy sh*t, standing on Coney Island beach I always thought that the landmass in the distance a bit to the left was Staten Island... now looking at this pic I realize its actually Middletown, NJ...
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: Construction is on hold
: The building is under construction
■ : The building has been completed


One World Trade Center -541M (Completed 2014)
225 W57th -541M (Completed by 2018)
740 8th Ave +500M (completed by 2020)
1 Vanderbilt -461M (Completed by 2020)
111 W57th -433M (Completed by 2017)
432 Park -426M (Completed 2015)
125 Greenwich -412M (Completed by 2017)
Two World Trade Center -411M (U/C by 2020)
335 Madison +400M (Completed by 2020)
Hudson Spire +400M (Completed by 2020)
Shvo Central Park Tower +400M (Site prep by 2020)
80 South Street ~400M (Completed by 2020)
360 10th Ave ~400M (Completed by 2020)
30 Hudson Yards -392M (Completed by 2018)
Empire State Building -381M (Completed 1931)
15 Penn -371M (Site Prep by 2020)
Bank of America Tower, -366M (Completed 2009)
50 Hudson Yards +350M (Completed by 2020)
520 W41st -331M (Completed by 2020)
Three World Trade Center -327M (Completed by 2018)
Girasole -323M (Completed by 2018)
Tower Verre -320M (Completed by 2018)
Chrysler Building -319M (Completed 1930)
New York Times Tower -318M (Completed 2007)
One57 -306M (Completed 2014)
34th and 10th Ave+304M (Completed by 2020)
237 Park +304M (Completed by 2020)
341 Madison +304M (Completed by 2020)
Park Lane tower +304M (Completed by 2020)
31 W 57th +304M (Completed by 2019)
35 Hudson Yards +304M (Completed by 2017)
Cetra Rudy UES Tower +304M (U/C by 2020)
Wanda Tower +304M (Site prep by 2020)
SHoP Brooklyn Tower +304M (Completed by 2020)
1710 Broadway +304M (Completed by 2020)
One Manhattan West -303M (Completed by 2020)
Two Manhattan West -303M (U/C by 2020)

37 Supertalls are currently in various stages of construction (5), completion (6), prep (12 +3 likely supertalls), on hold (1) and proposal (13). We have a total of 40 when likely supertalls are added!

281 5th +304M (Completed by 2020)
520 5th +304M (Completed by 2020)
3 West 29th +304M (Completed by 2020)


NYC is going above and beyond even my wildest expectations

#edit:
Added 740 8th Avenue to the list as a tower

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-styl...icle-1.2043630
Madness. I love it.
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2015, 6:48 PM
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New project at East 37 street will be 700 feet and 65 floors.

Thread: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=216084
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Does anybody know the definition we are using for megatall? CTBUH classifies any building over 300m as megatall and 600m as supertall.

Also, will we ever see a supertall in NYC, at least within a reasonable time-frame, by 2020-2025?
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Does anybody know the definition we are using for megatall? CTBUH classifies any building over 300m as megatall and 600m as supertall.

Also, will we ever see a supertall in NYC, at least within a reasonable time-frame, by 2020-2025?
Was always under the impression that 300m is a supertall and 600m is a megatall.

You need FAA approval to construct megatalls in the United States.
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2015, 8:56 PM
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Yes approval for anything, even if its a radio tower when its at 2000 ft or greater. They simply have to have a good reason (the developer) to build one, economic purpose, extensive studies, and go through the full process with the FAA, and if the conditions are right, they will accept. 2000 ft isn't necessary a max on what someone can build, but it does require more work on the developer's part.

With the flight paths being the way they are here, 2000 feet or greater, if that may come one day, won't be a big issue as in lets say Miami or Seattle.

I think a 600m is very realistic, and I'll tell you where I can see one going up, in Midtown East. Something multi-use, with large floor plates for the commercial aspect, a hotel, and a mix of residential could be the type of 600m that would happen in NY.

Two good options for something like this are Midtown East, and the lot for Hudson Yards Phase 2.
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