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2015 Combined Statistical Area Gross Product; Released Sep 20, 2016

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2015 Combined Statistical Area & Largest MSAs GDP
Population 3 Million+
New York-Newark-Jersey City $1.828 Trillion

Los Angeles-Long Beach $1.119 Trillion
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland $ 758.501 Billion
Washington-Baltimore-Arlington $698.398 Billion
Chicago-Naperville $648.435 Billion
Boston-Worcester-Providence $550.838 Billion
Houston-The Woodlands $503.311 Billion
Dallas-Ft Worth $489.633 Billion
Philadelphia-Reading-Camden $445.397 Billion
Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs $355.914 Billion
Seattle-Tacoma $340.064 Billion
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Port St Lucie $335.215 Billion
Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor $285.308 Billion
Minneapolis-St Paul $232.103 Billion
Denver-Aurora $227.058 Billion
San Diego-Carlsbad $220.573 Billion
Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale $219.968 Billion
Portland-Vancouver-Salem $173.538 Billion
Cleveland-Akron-Canton $162.638 Billion
Orlando-Deltona-Daytona Beach $124.802 Billion


Based on Current Dollar Value.

CSAs and Uncombined MSAs with 3 Million+ Population

New York-Newark CSA $1.828 Trillion

New York MSA $1.602 Trillion
Bridgeport MSA $101.385 Billion
New Haven MSA $45.091 Billion
Allentown MSA $36.968 Billion
Trenton MSA $30.815 Billion
Kingston MSA $5.701 Billion
East Stroudsburg MSA $5.769 Billion

Los Angeles-Long Beach CSA $1.119 Trillion
Los Angeles MSA $930.817 Billion
Riverside MSA $140.637 Billion
Oxnard MSA $48.220 Billion

San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland CSA $758.501 Billion
San Francisco MSA $431.704 BillIion
San Jose MSA $235.222 Billion
Stockton MSA $24.606 Billion
Santa Rosa MSA $26.052 Billion
Vallejo MSA $19.646 Billion
Santa Cruz MSA $11.908 Billion
Napa MSA $9.363 Billion

Washington-Baltimore-Arlington CSA $698.398 Billion
Washington MSA $491.042 Billion
Baltimore MSA $181.419 Billion
Hagerstown MSA $8.936 Billion
Chambersburg MSA $5.001 Billion
Winchester MSA $5.911 Billion
California-Lexington Park MSA $6.089 Billion

Chicago-Naperville CSA $648.435 Billion
Chicago MSA $640.656 Billion
Kankakee MSA $3.905 Billion
Michigan City MSA $3.874 Billion

Boston-Worcester-Providence CSA$550.838 Billion
Boston MSA $396.549 Billion
Providence MSA $76.694 Billion
Worcester MSA $39.257 Billion
Manchester MSA $25.442 Billion
Barnstable Town MSA $10.896 Billion

Houston-The Woodlands CSA $503.311 Billion
Houston MSA $503.311 Billion

Dallas-Ft Worth CSA $489.637 Billion
Dallas MSA $489.637 Billion
Sherman MSA $3.950 Billion

Philadelphia-Reading-Camden CSA $445.397 Billion
Philadelphia MSA $397.137 Billion
Reading MSA $17.503 Billion
Atlantic City MSA $13.261 Billion
Vineland MSA $5.735 Billion
Dover MSA $7.104 Billion
Ocean City MSA $4.657 Billion

Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs CSA $355.914 Billion
Atlanta MSA $339.203 Billion
Athens-Clarke County MSA $8.142 Billion
Gainesville MSA $8.569 Billion

Seattle-Tacoma CSA $340.654 Billion
Seattle MSA $313.654 Billion
Olympia MSA $10.796 Billion
Bremerton MSA $10.201 Billion
Mount Vernon MSA $5.413 Billion

Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Port St Lucie CSA $335.215 Billion
Miami MSA $317.896 Billion
Port St Lucie MSA $12.446 Billion
Sebastian MSA $4.873 Billion

Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor CSA $285.308 Billion
Detroit MSA $245.607 Billion
Flint MSA $13.876 Billion
Ann Arbor MSA $21.212 Billion
Monroe MSA $4.613 Billion

Minneapolis-St Paul CSA $232.103 Billion
Minneapolis MSA $223.713 Billion
St Cloud MSA $8.390 Billion

Denver-Aurora CSA $227.058 Billion
Denver MSA $193.172 Billion
Boulder MSA $23.414 Billion
Greeley MSA $10.472 Billion

San Diego MSA $220.573 Billion

Phoenix-Mesa-Glendale MSA $219.968 Billion

Portland-Vancouver-Salem CSA $173.538 Billion
Portland MSA $148.680 Billion
Salem MSA $14.069 Billion
Albany MSA $3.213 Billion
Longview MSA $3.333 Billion
Corvallis MSA $4.243 Billion

Cleveland-Akron-Canton CSA $162.638 Billion
Cleveland MSA $115.432 Billion
Akron MSA $31.168 Billion
Canton MSA $16.046 Billion

Orlando-Deltona-Daytona Beach $124.802 Billion
Orlando MSA $109.226 Billion
Deltona-Daytona MSA $13.524 Billion
The Villages MSA $2.052 Billion

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Largest CSAs/ MSAs Per Capita GDP, 2015
Population 3 Million+
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland $87,053
New York-Newark-Jersey City $77,074
Seattle-Tacoma $73,894
Houston-The Woodlands $73,422
Washington-Baltimore-Arlington $72,560
Boston-Worcester-Providence $67,570
San Diego-Carlsbad $66,860
Denver-Aurora $66,430
Chicago-Naperville $65,346
Dallas-Ft Worth $65,250
Los Angeles-Long Beach $64,065
Philadelphia-Reading-Camden $62,007
Minneapolis-St Paul $60,036
Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs$55,917
Portland-Vancouver-Salem $55,800
Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor $53,677
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Port St Lucie $50,377
Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale $48,090
Cleveland-Akron-Canton $46,418
Orlando-Deltona-Daytona Beach $39,885

Metro Area Per Capita GDP, 2015
GDP $100 Billion+
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara $119,031
Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk $106,946
San Francisco-Oakland-Hayward $92,719
Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue $84,021
Washington-Arlington-Alexandria $80,538
New York-Newark-Jersey City $79,412
Boston-Cambridge-Newton $78,874
Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land $75,617
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim $69,776
Denver-Aurora-Lakewood $68,646
Dallas-Ft Worth-Arlington $68,386
Indianapolis-Carmel-Anderson $67,445
Chicago-Naperville-Elgin $67,077
San Diego-Carlsbad $66,860
Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington $65,436
Milwaukee-Waukesha-West Allis $64,894
Baltimore-Columbia-Towson $64,861
Minneapolis-St Paul-Bloomington $63,482
Charlotte-Concord-Gastonia $62,838
Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro $62,235
Nashville-Murfreesboro-Franklin $62,120
Columbus $61,547
Kansas City $60,190
Austin-Round Rock $59,975
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Roswell $59,405
Pittsburgh $59,019
Cincinnati $58,904
Detroit-Warren-Dearborn $57,091
Cleveland-Elyria $56,034
St Louis $55,167
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-West Palm Beach $52,876
Sacramento-Roseville-Arden Arcade $52,252
Las Vegas-Henderson-Paradise $48,885
Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale $48,090
Orlando-Kissimmee-Sanford $45,758
San Antonio-New Braunfels$45,670
Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario $31,329
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Old Posted Sep 20, 2016, 6:22 PM
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If the Chicago-Naperville MSA is going to include Kankakee and Michigan City, then why aren't Waukegan, Kenosha, and Milwaukee included? Distance wise, some are closer and I'd say they're even more economically related.
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If the Chicago-Naperville MSA is going to include Kankakee and Michigan City, then why aren't Waukegan, Kenosha, and Milwaukee included? Distance wise, some are closer and I'd say they're even more economically related.
Because the Census has commuting thresholds. Distance has nothing to do with it.

Apparently Michigan City meets that threshold, and Milwaukee doesn't (which isn't very surprising; Michigan City is a much easier commute to Chicago than Milwaukee, plus Milwaukee probably has a variety of jobs not present in Michigan City, meaning the latter town has more people forced into long commutes).

Michigan City is only about 40 miles from Chicago, BTW, and through relatively low-traffic Indiana and South Side Chicago. Milwaukee is like 90 miles from Chicago, and a commute would go through the most congested parts of the region.
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If the Chicago-Naperville MSA is going to include Kankakee and Michigan City, then why aren't Waukegan, Kenosha, and Milwaukee included?
waukegan and kenosha are already included in chicago's MSA.

milwaukee is another animal entirely and has its own economic gravity that keeps commuter exchange rates low enough not to be consolidated with chicago into some kind of super-CSA.

frankly, i think even including michigan city into chicago's CSA is a bit silly (it's on the other freaking side of lake michigan for christ's sake!), but apparently enough people commute into other NW indiana counties from there to include it.
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I personally don't give much weight to CSAs unless it's a few in the US. San Francisco-San Jose makes sense and so does Washington-Baltimore, but having a CSA for Chicago and Michigan City, IN is like comparing apples to oranges. I think it's important to show CSAs for those cases like above, but also don't necessarily think it should be compared to unlike entities like a Chicago area which doesn't have another large city/economic player in its MSA like the others do. The only way it would make sense, to me at least, is if Chicago also included Milwaukee - which it doesn't.
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Great job, dimondpark!

Could you post their growth rate as well (2010 vs 2015 and 2014 vs 2015)? Detroit MSA is back ahead Minneapolis MSA as the second most important economy in the Midwest.
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Great job, dimondpark!

Could you post their growth rate as well (2010 vs 2015 and 2014 vs 2015)? Detroit MSA is back ahead Minneapolis MSA as the second most important economy in the Midwest.
Here are the percent changes for every MSA with a population of at least 1 million (as of 2015 estimates) from 2014 to 2015..Real GDP in 2009 dollars.
* San Jose | 8.94%
* Raleigh | 7%
* San Antonio | 5.89%
* Austin | 5.03%
* Portland | 4.57%
* Houston | 4.56%
* Charlotte | 4.31%
* San Francisco | 4.07%
* Denver | 3.96%
* Las Vegas | 3.92%
* Nashville | 3.92%
* Richmond | 3.89%
* LA | 3.88%
* Riverside | 3.79%
* Virginia Beach | 3.71%
* Dallas | 3.56%
* Sacramento | 3.53%
* Orlando | 3.46%
* Columbus, OH | 3.31%
* Pittsburgh | 3.3%
* Miami | 3.28%
* Chicago | 3.09%
* Salt Lake City | 3.07%
* Atlanta | 2.88%
* Seattle | 2.87%
* Oklahoma City | 2.81%
* Minneapolis | 2.73%
* Tampa | 2.69%
* Jacksonville | 2.63%
* New Orleans | 2.56%
* San Diego | 2.46%
* Grand Rapids, MI | 2.3%
* Boston | 2.19%
* Detroit | 2.12%
* Birmingham | 2.11%
* Louisville | 2.06%
* Phoenix | 1.79%
* Cincinnati | 1.77%
* Milwaukee | 1.75%
* NYC | 1.7%
* Rochester, NY | 1.6%
* Kansas City | 1.52%
* Baltimore | 1.46%
* Philadelphia | 1.45%
* Indianapolis | 1.41%
* St. Louis | 1.35%
* Providence | 1.3%
* DC | 1.27%
* Cleveland | 1.09%
* Buffalo | 0.93%
* Hartford, CT | 0.85%
* Memphis | 0.39%
* Tucson | -2.35%
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Because the Census has commuting thresholds. Distance has nothing to do with it.

Apparently Michigan City meets that threshold, and Milwaukee doesn't (which isn't very surprising; Michigan City is a much easier commute to Chicago than Milwaukee, plus Milwaukee probably has a variety of jobs not present in Michigan City, meaning the latter town has more people forced into long commutes).

Michigan City is only about 40 miles from Chicago, BTW, and through relatively low-traffic Indiana and South Side Chicago. Milwaukee is like 90 miles from Chicago, and a commute would go through the most congested parts of the region.
Michigan City is about 60 miles for any form of land-based transportation. However, the commute time is nearly identical for Milwaukee and Michigan City to downtown Chicago. Off-peak, I think Michigan City is faster however just because of the short distance.


What interests me is the comparison between the Bay Area CSA and the Chicago CSA when you look at the more agricultural-focused areas. The high-value crops and vertical integration (IE on-site wine production, etc) really show their value when you compare GDP vs Middle America areas, where agriculture is more concentrated in the "inputs to the edible-industrial-complex" space. Kankakee MSA vs Napa MSA. They probably have a very similar population and number of acres dedicated to agriculture but Napa is 3x the GDP.
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What interests me is the comparison between the Bay Area CSA and the Chicago CSA when you look at the more agricultural-focused areas. The high-value crops and vertical integration (IE on-site wine production, etc) really show their value when you compare GDP vs Middle America areas, where agriculture is more concentrated in the "inputs to the edible-industrial-complex" space. Kankakee MSA vs Napa MSA. They probably have a very similar population and number of acres dedicated to agriculture but Napa is 3x the GDP.
Napa's wine industry drives the county/MSA's economy, both directly and through the region's significant tourism industry, with all the resorts, hotels, restaurants, bars, and shops that entails.

And while it is true Napa is significantly focused on agriculture in that it is a major wine producing region, and most of the county is rural (and mountainous), it is also true 100,000 of the MSA's 142,000 residents live in just two cities, the sprawlburb of American River Canyon and the historic city of Napa.
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Michigan City is about 60 miles for any form of land-based transportation. However, the commute time is nearly identical for Milwaukee and Michigan City to downtown Chicago. Off-peak, I think Michigan City is faster however just because of the short distance.


What interests me is the comparison between the Bay Area CSA and the Chicago CSA when you look at the more agricultural-focused areas. The high-value crops and vertical integration (IE on-site wine production, etc) really show their value when you compare GDP vs Middle America areas, where agriculture is more concentrated in the "inputs to the edible-industrial-complex" space. Kankakee MSA vs Napa MSA. They probably have a very similar population and number of acres dedicated to agriculture but Napa is 3x the GDP.
"Napa 3x the GDP (per capita) of Kankanee" Wine & the tourism it creates has a much higher value than corn and soybeans. No tourists go out to visit the corn. Millions go out to visit the wineries, and pay handsome prices for bottles of Napa's finest. In October harvest time, you'd be amazed at the weekend traffic in the Napa & Sonoma valleys.
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