JERSEY CITY | PATH Train Ridership Growing Rapidly

[Nexis4Jersey]

Disappearing into the Tube

[manchester united]

To change the title: NYC/JERSEY CITY | PATH Train Ridership Growing Rapidly.

[mrnyc]

Originally Posted by manchester united

To change the title: NYC/JERSEY CITY | PATH Train Ridership Growing Rapidly.

meh, i can wait until it can be changed to: NYC/JERSEY/EWR | PATH Train Ridership Growing Rapidly.

hopefully soon.

[Nexis4Jersey]

PATH ridership is now around 200-210,000 daily passengers according to the PA who said the rest of the agencies facilities are now higher usage then pre-pandemic.

[Busy Bee]

Great news

[Nexis4Jersey]

Originally Posted by Busy Bee

Great news

Despite their horrible service it seems to be ticking up higher and higher each month...probably back to pre-pandemic levels by next spring.

[C.]

Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey

PATH ridership is now around 200-210,000 daily passengers according to the PA who said the rest of the agencies facilities are now higher usage then pre-pandemic.

Awesome news.

One good thing to come out of the pandemic is that now that PATH ridership is 2/3rd of what it use to carry, it STFU the NIMBYs (a bit) who were calling for a halt in development due to PATH being at capacity.

Since then there has been a number of signaling and phsyical capacity upgrades with longer trains. PATH capacity is probably at 400,000 daily passnenger riders if operaitng at 100 percent of its existing resources. That's a long way to go before hitting that mark.

[Nexis4Jersey]

Originally Posted by C.

Awesome news.

One good thing to come out of the pandemic is that now that PATH ridership is 2/3rd of what it use to carry, it STFU the NIMBYs (a bit) who were calling for a halt in development due to PATH being at capacity.

Since then there has been a number of signaling and phsyical capacity upgrades with longer trains. PATH capacity is probably at 400,000 daily passnenger riders if operaitng at 100 percent of its existing resources. That's a long way to go before hitting that mark.

Its only one more additional car to WTC-NWK line... A new line will be needed if all the proposed Newark Developments break ground...one proposal has the Newark LRT extended to meet the Hudson Bergen LRT utilizing the abandoned railroad that used to link the 2 cities.

[C.]

Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey

Its only one more additional car to WTC-NWK line... A new line will be needed if all the proposed Newark Developments break ground...one proposal has the Newark LRT extended to meet the Hudson Bergen LRT utilizing the abandoned railroad that used to link the 2 cities.

I wish our elected officials were serious about another TransHudson tube for the past. It’s ridiculous we’re relying on 100-year-old infrastructure as is, let alone the demand increase in the future.

The HBLR line extension to the Newark LRT is interesting. I wonder if it can just be combined into one route. The Hudson Essex Light Rail line has a better ring anyway. lol

Ridership would soar!

[C.]

Marion PATH station near Journal Square gets one step closer.

https://www.tapinto.net/towns/jersey...-to-the-future

Should help ridership growth when built.

[C.]

Nov. 2023 avg. weekday ridership - 176,612

December should see a big bump to 220,000.

[ssiguy]

Excuse for such a basic question but...........what exactly is PATH? Is it just a subway system for people in the New Jersey area of NYC or more like a commuter/suburban rail type system like Toronto's GO?

[Busy Bee]

PATH or Port Authority Trans-Hudson is an electrified heavy rail rapid transit subway system which primarily serves to move NJ commuters into Lower Manhattan (Hudson Terminal before WTC) and Midtown Manhattan (33 St though Grand Central was the intended terminal) from the waterfront areas of Hoboken and Jersey City as well as servicing Journal Square in Jersey City on its way to and from Newark Penn Station.

It was originally called the Hudson & Manhattan Railroad which was owned and operated as a subsidiary of the PRR. It was conceived in the early 1900s primarily as a rapid transit link between the Jersey City waterfront and Manhattan for the passengers of the many individual railroad terminal stations that used to exist on the waterfront between Hoboken Terminal and southward. The public agency Port Authority of NY/NJ took over operations from the struggling private H&M in 1962.

It is operated more or less like the NY subway or any other rapid transit subway but due to its parallel trackage with mainline rail between Jersey City and Newark it has a unique federal classification of a commuter railroad with a few internal operation requirements more less unknown to the general public. It would be compatible to the TTC Toronto subway and nothing at all like the GO train.

[craigs]

Originally Posted by Busy Bee

It is operated more or less like the NY subway . . . .

PATH is also like the NY subway in that it runs 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.

[ssiguy]

[QUOTE=
It is operated more or less like the NY subway or any other rapid transit subway but due to its parallel trackage with mainline rail between Jersey City and Newark it has a unique federal classification of a commuter railroad with a few internal operation requirements more less unknown to the general public. It would be compatible to the TTC Toronto subway and nothing at all like the GO train.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the info. I have always found NY's rail transit system being hard to make sense of and not just due to it's massive size but also because it serves 3 states with 3 different commuter rail agencies, and 2 different subway systems all terminating at different main stations ie Penn , Grand Central etc.

It's a shame the system can't be more coordinated in terms of both pricing and thru-running. Not having any thru-running trains makes getting from one area to the other needlessly complicated and time consuming. It's just geography but you would think they could coordinate the system better to make it more user friendly and having fewer transfers especially at busy downtown stations.

Toronto is lucky that none of it's GO lines come even close to an inter-provincial boundary so thru-running is already happening. With complete GO/local fare integration FINALLY starting next month, electrification, and service that will see all-day each way service running about every 6 minutes OFF peak on it's core RER system {roughly 60 km from several lines radiating from downtown totally about 260km} Toronto's system will be easier to comprehend.

Question..........does NY/NJ have any electric locomotive bi-level trains?

[jmecklenborg]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

Thanks for the info. I have always found NY's rail transit system being hard to make sense of and not just due to it's massive size but also because it serves 3 states with 3 different commuter rail agencies, and 2 different subway systems all terminating at different main stations ie Penn , Grand Central etc.

Here is a description of the two subway types (letter and number lines) and then PATH trains:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nycrail/com...bway_possible/

What's really interesting is that not only does Philadelphia have a 4-track line that looks pretty much identical to the bulk of the NYC subway system, it also has a completely separate New Jersey-based rapid transit system that crosses state lines called PATCO. There are some stylistic similarities shared between PATCO and PATH...I mean to begin with they both start with the letter P.

[jmecklenborg]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

Thanks for the info. I have always found NY's rail transit system being hard to make sense of and not just due to it's massive size

If you haven't been to NYC, or even if you have, you really can't appreciate the massive scale of the metro without visiting the areas of New Jersey immediately opposite Manhattan. It's of a built density that doesn't exist pretty much anywhere else in the United States. If it were on its own it would get a lot of attention but it's overshadowed by the cosmic scale of Manhattan.

[Nexis4Jersey]

The Colorful Bird Station



Mural on platform level

[mrnyc]

^ so nice to see nexis back in action!

[Busy Bee]

Here here