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Old Posted Jan 20, 2021, 8:32 PM
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Wasn't Lakeline a massive financial disaster? It opened waaaayyy too late in the lifespan of the indoor mall.

Still, they had a Sega City when it opened and a cool multistory movie theater, so I loved it.

Lacked ice skating rink so it was definitely not as good a hang as Northcross, but better than Highland or Barton Creek. Especially since Aladdin's Castle went bankrupt before Sega City or Tilt.
The mall was originally proposed in the mid 80s but was delayed nearly a decade for a number of reasons.

First there was the Texas real estate crash in the late 80s which resulted in a lot of developments being put on hold or cancelled altogether. Then there were further delays for environmental reasons due to the discovery of small caves containing endangered beetles on the property (I believe). Finally broke ground in 1994.

Interesting tidbit - the land the mall is located on was originally in the city of Cedar Park but was later transferred to and is still in the city of limits Austin. That's why the mall and many of the surrounding stores have a Cedar Park mailing address.
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The mall was originally proposed in the mid 80s but was delayed nearly a decade for a number of reasons.

First there was the Texas real estate crash in the late 80s which resulted in a lot of developments being put on hold or cancelled altogether. Then there were further delays for environmental reasons due to the discovery of small caves containing endangered beetles on the property (I believe). Finally broke ground in 1994.

Interesting tidbit - the land the mall is located on was originally in the city of Cedar Park but was later transferred to and is still in the city of limits Austin. That's why the mall and many of the surrounding stores have a Cedar Park mailing address.
2nd interesting tidbit- the mall and surrounding apartments are in the Round Rock ISD. So you live in Austin with a Cedar Park address and your kids go to RRISD schools. That is what happens when you draw boundaries out in the country before everything gets built up.
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2nd interesting tidbit- the mall and surrounding apartments are in the Round Rock ISD. So you live in Austin with a Cedar Park address and your kids go to RRISD schools. That is what happens when you draw boundaries out in the country before everything gets built up.
That is weird.
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Also when ever we arrested someone at Sears for shoplifting, They would first be happy because they thought Travis county was picking them up. But their hopes were crushed when they ended up in Wilco.
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Anyone know the history of Southwood Center? I've only ever been inside the Golds Gym and Rocket Banners there, but behind the Rocket Banners (which you can only enter through the back of the building) there's this weird space that looks like the inside of a shopping mall but it seems abandoned. Did this place used to be an indoor mall?
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I found this site plan:

it's only a matter of time before this strip gets fixed up. i live in the neighborhood behind it, and the whole neighborhood is basically under construction. once St. Elmo is done, the light rail comes online and more and more people move down here, I think this strip is perfectly placed for a complete revamp.
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Interesting! This explains so much. I didn't realize there was an entrance to that inner corridor space from the parking lot. Still a very strange way to design a strip center - sort of a hybrid between a strip center and a shopping mall I guess.
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Interesting! This explains so much. I didn't realize there was an entrance to that inner corridor space from the parking lot. Still a very strange way to design a strip center - sort of a hybrid between a strip center and a shopping mall I guess.
Southwood was actually Austin's first mall. It and Hancock center are two of the older Mall's in town but the Mall bit has (mostly) been stripped out of it. Westgate was also a mall (parts of the movie theater date back to the mall) as was Northcross, though those were torn out much more recently than Southwood which turned into a strip mall in the 90s.

My grandparents live (well, grandpa at this point) on Gillis right behind the old Southwood theater (now laser tag). When I was a kid the mall part was still much more prominent than it is now including an interior atrium with a waterfall. Loads of big box stores have come and gone since then, most of my childhood there was a bulk foods grocer in there that moved out (sunflower, seedsomething?) to Brodie Oaks and eventually turned into Sprouts.
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Southwood was actually Austin's first mall. It and Hancock center are two of the older Mall's in town but the Mall bit has (mostly) been stripped out of it. Westgate was also a mall (parts of the movie theater date back to the mall) as was Northcross, though those were torn out much more recently than Southwood which turned into a strip mall in the 90s.

My grandparents live (well, grandpa at this point) on Gillis right behind the old Southwood theater (now laser tag). When I was a kid the mall part was still much more prominent than it is now including an interior atrium with a waterfall. Loads of big box stores have come and gone since then, most of my childhood there was a bulk foods grocer in there that moved out (sunflower, seedsomething?) to Brodie Oaks and eventually turned into Sprouts.
Sunharvest. And yep, Southwood and Westgate both were two malls we went to a lot in the late 80s. The Southwood Theatre was our theatre. We probably saw Ghostbusters there and a bunch more. The Southwood Theatre, not Blazer Tag, and the original Westgate Theatre where the Buffet Palace is now on Westgate at Ben White.

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Not sure if this goes here, or in project updates BUUUUT...A little birdy told me that Austin will get its first "TX based" shopping department store downtown "scaled down urban version" sometime in the near future. Didn't get any further info...just that the retailer is "established". So weird considering we were just discussing something sort of similar!

Guessing west end of DT
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Not sure if this goes here, or in project updates BUUUUT...A little birdy told me that Austin will get its first "TX based" shopping department store downtown "scaled down urban version" sometime in the near future. Didn't get any further info...just that the retailer is "established". So weird considering we were just discussing something sort of similar!

Guessing west end of DT
love this! i guess it has to be Neiman Marcus?
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it's only a matter of time before this strip gets fixed up. i live in the neighborhood behind it, and the whole neighborhood is basically under construction. once St. Elmo is done, the light rail comes online and more and more people move down here, I think this strip is perfectly placed for a complete revamp.
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You ain't kidding about the construction.
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Southwood was actually Austin's first mall. It and Hancock center are two of the older Mall's in town but the Mall bit has (mostly) been stripped out of it. Westgate was also a mall (parts of the movie theater date back to the mall) as was Northcross, though those were torn out much more recently than Southwood which turned into a strip mall in the 90s.

My grandparents live (well, grandpa at this point) on Gillis right behind the old Southwood theater (now laser tag). When I was a kid the mall part was still much more prominent than it is now including an interior atrium with a waterfall. Loads of big box stores have come and gone since then, most of my childhood there was a bulk foods grocer in there that moved out (sunflower, seedsomething?) to Brodie Oaks and eventually turned into Sprouts.
I used to go watch movies with friends at that dollar theater (lazer tag). Now that I think back about it, we had quite a lot more freedom then compared to kids today. I used to walk or ride my bike all over and walk around inside Southwood Mall without adult supervision. Used to walk to St. Elmo and back home, either at alone or with a couple of friends. I'm talking when I was as young as 6 or 7 years, would be out and about even by the train tracks sometimes. A lot has changed for sure cause no way are kids that age out without their parents. It's just interesting to think back on my childhood and how much independence in terms of being out on the neighborhood streets.
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love this! i guess it has to be Neiman Marcus?
We have already have a needless markup at the domain, so it wouldn’t be our first. I don’t know of any other Texas based department stores, however.
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love this! i guess it has to be Neiman Marcus?
Oh shit! I totally forgot Neiman's was TX based!!

Perhaps the downtown Dallas location could be an example of what they're doing (if it's them). Congress Ave would make a lot of sense, although not sure where for the space.

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Oh wow that brings back memories. There was a Weiner's and a Winn's both in the shopping center on Ohlen and 183. My mom would take me to Weiner's to buy school clothes, then we'd walk over to Winn's to get Gobots and Garbage Pail Kids trading cards!

I believe Skaggs Alpha Beta was on that corner of the strip center too.


Maybe that new shopping center store mentioned earlier could be the return of Joske's? I thought they were opening back up on the River Walk, maybe they're coming back here too. I remember the one in Highland Mall decades ago.
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