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Old Posted Apr 27, 2015, 3:16 AM
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The truth is some people just like to be pissed off about anything that comes from outside their little bubble.

I'm not so sure about an intermediary stop on State Highway 30 though. Maybe they could buy the land for it and set up a track segment to support it's addition at a later date. I don't really see Roans Prairie as a burgeoning metropolis though....it has a Valero with clean bathrooms...and a Family Dollar!

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Old Posted Apr 27, 2015, 3:38 AM
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It's hard to see Texas continuing to grow as current pace without better transportation, which includes high-speed rail. It's pretty important in the modern era. People are going to have to make sacrifices in the form of their land to make it happen.
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2015, 3:47 AM
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The truth is some people just like to be pissed off about anything that comes from outside their little bubble.

I'm not so sure about an intermediary stop on State Highway 30 though. Maybe they could buy the land for it and set up a track segment to support it's addition at a later date. I don't really see Roans Prairie as a burgeoning metropolis though....it has a Valero with clean bathrooms...and a Family Dollar!
This is pretty clearly an outlying stop to serve College Station. Texas Central would probably partner with A&M to run a shuttle. Of course, that's a good 30-minute drive... not exactly convenient.
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2015, 3:09 PM
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TCR would be smart to engage in some real estate acquisition and perhaps market to developers some rural stops they can build around. Remember that in the hey days of American and European railroading the majority of profit was from real estate holdings coming from the development of the land around the rail lines. Texas being a highly pro-development, pro-growth state would be suited towards this kind of thing. TCR could recoup the up front capital costs from the development windfalls alone, and create a built-in ridership base. MTR in Hong Kong is a well known example of this in current practice.
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2015, 4:31 PM
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TCR would be smart to engage in some real estate acquisition and perhaps market to developers some rural stops they can build around. Remember that in the hey days of American and European railroading the majority of profit was from real estate holdings coming from the development of the land around the rail lines. Texas being a highly pro-development, pro-growth state would be suited towards this kind of thing. TCR could recoup the up front capital costs from the development windfalls alone, and create a built-in ridership base. MTR in Hong Kong is a well known example of this in current practice.
Excellent point, they are looking at real estate ventures in Dallas and Houston, but let's not scare rural Texans anymore than necessary, they are not as pro growth as urban Texas. Let's get the HSR railroad built before looking for a rural city desiring more growth and would like a train station and TOD built near it.
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Bullet train project saved in late-night vote

DALLAS – The private plan to build a bullet train between North Texas and Houston has survived, despite attempts from a Republican state senator to kill it.

State Sen. Charles Schwertner (R-Georgetown) lost his attempt on Thursday night to end the privately-funded project.

"Late this evening, in a 6-4 vote, I came up short in my attempt to ban the use of state taxpayer dollars to support the construction of a high-speed railway in Texas," Schwertner said in an e-mailed news release Thursday night.
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Here is the Dallas Morning News article.

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.c...proposal.html/
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http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news...on-6400673.php

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High-speed rail backers say they have $75 million for planning

project to connect Dallas and Houston by bullet train has taken a major step forward.

Texas Central Partners, which aims to build a bullet train between Texas' two biggest cities, announced Wednesday they had raised $75 million in private investments in the company's first round of fundraising.

That funds are intended to allow the ambitious $10 billion project to move forward from feasibility studies to development planning.

The company also hired a new CEO: Tim Keith, former CEO of RREEF/Deutsche Bank Infrastructure Investments.

"It's an enormous boost for the project. The first capital to raise is the hardest to raise," he said in an interview. "It's a terrific day for me but it's a historic day for the project and for Houston."
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Here is a column about Texas Central Partners' new CEO.

http://www.dallasnews.com/business/c...e-big-sell.ece

Note that Texas Central Partners and Texas Central Railway are separate but closely related corporations.

http://houston.culturemap.com/news/i...unk-of-cash-1/
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Will Texas’ Japanese Trains Have Japanese Cops?

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The private Texas Central Railway is proposing a high-speed train for Texas using Japanese technology and operational methods, but they haven’t said publicly how they will provide security.

- The Texas Central Railway (TCR), a private corporation, is proposing a high-speed train for Texas using Japanese technology and operational methods with the potential to be “a transformative event in the history of the nation’s transportation system.” --- According to TCR, the project involves “the international version of the Tokaido Shinkansen total system currently in operation between Tokyo and Osaka, Japan. This international version will feature the core system — passenger train, overhead catenary, tracks, signaling — along with all of the corresponding maintenance and operations protocols….”

- No governmental entity will own or operate this train, which will make it unique among passenger trains in the United States (not counting tourist-oriented, dinner trains, or other enterprises not intended to move people from point A to point B). However, TCR has not publicly indicated how it will approach security, law enforcement, or other police activities related to the train project. Its public statements themselves require some skepticism, as the developer’s materials carry this disclaimer or some variation of it.

- “All claims and descriptions of the high-speed rail system’s operations, including service and station amenities, are solely suggestions of potentiality based on examples from other high-speed rail around the world and for promotional purposes only. TCR will not be the owner, developer, implementer nor operator of the railroad. The railroad’s owner or operator will be responsible for coordinating with regulatory agencies and others regarding the specific aspects of the system’s service.”

- Security is a major concern for such systems. From January 2004 through July 2008 there were 530 terrorist attacks worldwide against passenger rail targets, resulting in more than 2,000 deaths and 9,000 injuries. The Transportation Safety Administration (TSA) considers passenger railroads to be high consequence targets in terms of potential loss of life and economic disruption as they carry large numbers of people in a confined environment, offer the opportunity for specific populations to be targeted at particular destinations, and often have iconic structures such as TCR will have.

- In Japan, high-speed rail trains do not have a separate intelligence or security infrastructure; rather, they are integrated into the mass-transit structure with commuter and local trains. Passengers boarding trains are not screened. Information about the true safety and security practices of Japanese trains is hard to come by, which may be a result of the privatized nature of the Japanese rail system. What stands out, however, is the sarin gas incident of 1995.

- The United States government, through the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), has oversight of security on passenger rail systems. Its approach for rail is similar to that for intercity buses, as opposed to the screening and security levels provided for air transportation. Passenger rail receives minimal security oversight from the state level. Local rail systems are public entities and provide their own security or rely on police agencies.

- TCR could approach security in the same manner as intercity buses. TSA’s security can range from random checks to airline-style checkpoints, but the President of TCR has publicly rejected “TSA-type [airline-style] security.” While public transit agencies can employ their own peace officers, TCR does not fit the current legal definition of public transit agency. TCR might be able to rely on existing transit police at terminals but these officers would be limited to their home agencies’ geographic jurisdiction without a change in law and their participation in fusion centers is unknown as of this writing.

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Old Posted Aug 26, 2015, 1:52 AM
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Any updates on TCR? I've not been in Texas in a while and am likely behind on any news. Grateful for any insight!
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2015, 3:07 AM
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Any updates on TCR? I've not been in Texas in a while and am likely behind on any news. Grateful for any insight!
Not really, the route has been narrowed down though. It will be the route shown in gold below (spoilered for large image):



Although no word yet whether the line will extend all the way to downtown Houston.
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2015, 4:06 AM
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North Texas Inches Closer To Getting High-Speed Rail Lines



For years, politicians and volunteers have been talking about building a high-speed rail line to and possibly through North Texas. That ‘dream’ has now inched closer to becoming reality.

On August 21, the Regional Transportation Council (RTC) approved $4.5 million for the planning, design, project development and preliminary engineering to build a high speed rail in the Dallas-Fort Worth to Houston corridor by 2021.

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2015/08/21/n...ed-rail-lines/
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2015, 7:48 AM
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Great, thanks anday. I hope they do go to downtown Houston. Downtown to downtown obviously seems ideal.
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The gold utility alignment is clearly a better alignment, my goodness.

I am really rooting for this project.
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2015, 8:32 AM
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The gold utility alignment is clearly a better alignment, my goodness.

I am really rooting for this project.
yeah the Red one is ok, but gold alignment is better.
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2015, 9:54 AM
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So RTC has an HSR plan in PD&E now. Is this the same as the TCR plan, or some sort of competing plan?
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2015, 10:58 AM
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So RTC has an HSR plan in PD&E now. Is this the same as the TCR plan, or some sort of competing plan?
The RTC idea is s separate 40 mile link from Dallas to Fort Worth. Texas Central Partners, builders of the Dallas-Houston HSR line, are not interested in any way with this idea.

It is easy to confuse the two since RTC likes to imply that it is all one project and their segment is the only way it can be successful.
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2015, 4:17 PM
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It is easy to confuse the two since RTC likes to imply that it is all one project and their segment is the only way it can be successful.
RTC is the transportation division of NCTCOG; NCTCOG is the distributor of all federal program funds for the DFW metro area; RTC is tasked with coordinating the planning of all transportation projects in the DFW metro area. All voting members of both NCTCOG and its RTC are locally elected politicians, or agency heads appointed by locally elected politicians.

As the regional planner coordinator, RTC obviously wishes to see Dallas and Fort Worth interconnected in as many modes of transportation possible. Therefore, connecting HSR between its two largest cities is politically motivated. Dallas can't have something that Fort Worth doesn't have, and vice versa. It doesn't matter that HSR enters Dallas with a privately funded railroad company.

The existing TRE commuter rail and Amtrak have already interconnected Cow Town and Big D with slow speed subsidized passenger trains. Texas Central doesn't see profits arising from providing HSR services between these two cities. So they aren't planning to fund and build it. They aren't politically driven, they are driven by economics - profits from selling train tickets.

I hope this explanation helps.
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2015, 7:23 PM
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^^^^I was going to explain NCTCOG and RTC, but you did it better. Thanks.
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