Your city's multiracial population/mixed unions

[Docere]

There isn't really a perfect measure - particularly with the borderline white "Latin American" and "Arab/West Asian" categories.

In 2011, Statistics Canada estimated 8% of all couples in mixed unions. That's 11% of visible minorities, Vancouver is a bit higher with 9.6% and 12%, respectively. Toronto and Van are by far the most nonwhite cities in Canada - and not surprisingly have both the highest percentage of the entire population in mixed unions but a low proportion of visible minority groups in mixed unions.

https://vancouversun.com/news/staff-...ples-in-canada

[Urbanguy]

In Honolulu in 2017 it was at 42%. At the national level it was 17%.


Image and news source: Hawaii News Now

By HNN Staff | May 18, 2017 at 7:42 PM HST - Updated August 12 at 4:50 AM

HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) - Four out of every ten newlyweds in Honolulu are married to someone of a different race or ethnicity, by far the highest percentage of any metropolitan area in the United States, according to new research by the Pew Research Center.

The study, which was based on U.S. Census data covering the four-year span between 2011 and 2015, shines a light on the rapidly increasing national trend of Americans marrying outside their own race.

At the national level, according to Pew, roughly one in every six newlyweds – 17 percent – was involved in an interracial marriage. That number represents a significant increase from the 3 percent figure listed for 1967, when the Supreme Court first ruled that interracial marriages were legal.

Of all the areas considered in the study, Honolulu's 42 percent intermarriage rate is significantly higher than both the national average and the next-highest metropolitan location: the Las Vegas-Henderson-Paradise region in Nevada, which measured 11 percentage points lower than Honolulu.

In only one other area – Santa Barbara, California – could Pew find an intermarriage rate of more than 30 percent. The next-highest rates were found in Fayetteville, North Carolina (29 percent), Melbourne, Florida (29 percent), and Albuquerque, New Mexico (28 percent).

The lowest rate of intermarriage in the United States was found in Jackson, Mississippi, where just three percent of weddings involved interracial couples.
Copyright 2017 Hawaii News Now. All rights reserved.


It's incredibly common throughout Hawaii so when you see statistics of people choosing only one (single response) ethnic group, race, tribe or ancestry -- the numbers look deceivingly low compared to other states because it doesn't quite capture the full picture of it's diversity and how people identify themselves. In fact, it has the highest mix rate of every single racial category in the U.S. and it gets even more complex when you also add in what ethnic groups they're mixed with under each racial, tribal or ancestral category and combination thereof.

[dimondpark]

Originally Posted by Urbanguy

In Honolulu in 2017 it was at 42%. At the national level it was 17%.


Image and news source: Hawaii News Now

By HNN Staff | May 18, 2017 at 7:42 PM HST - Updated August 12 at 4:50 AM

HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) - Four out of every ten newlyweds in Honolulu are married to someone of a different race or ethnicity, by far the highest percentage of any metropolitan area in the United States, according to new research by the Pew Research Center.

The study, which was based on U.S. Census data covering the four-year span between 2011 and 2015, shines a light on the rapidly increasing national trend of Americans marrying outside their own race.

At the national level, according to Pew, roughly one in every six newlyweds – 17 percent – was involved in an interracial marriage. That number represents a significant increase from the 3 percent figure listed for 1967, when the Supreme Court first ruled that interracial marriages were legal.

Of all the areas considered in the study, Honolulu's 42 percent intermarriage rate is significantly higher than both the national average and the next-highest metropolitan location: the Las Vegas-Henderson-Paradise region in Nevada, which measured 11 percentage points lower than Honolulu.

In only one other area – Santa Barbara, California – could Pew find an intermarriage rate of more than 30 percent. The next-highest rates were found in Fayetteville, North Carolina (29 percent), Melbourne, Florida (29 percent), and Albuquerque, New Mexico (28 percent).

The lowest rate of intermarriage in the United States was found in Jackson, Mississippi, where just three percent of weddings involved interracial couples.
Copyright 2017 Hawaii News Now. All rights reserved.


It's incredibly common throughout Hawaii so when you see statistics of people choosing only one (single response) ethnic group, race, tribe or ancestry -- the numbers look deceivingly low compared to other states because it doesn't quite capture the full picture of it's diversity and how people identify themselves. In fact, it has the highest mix rate of every single racial category in the U.S. and it gets even more complex when you also add in what ethnic groups they're mixed with under each racial, tribal or ancestral category and combination thereof.

Great article!

Here are the major metros besides Honolulu(42%)

% of newlyweds involved in an interracial marriage:
31% Las Vegas
27% San Diego
26% Sacramento
26% San Francisco
25% Phoenix
25% Riverside
25% Tucson
24% Miami
24% Orlando
24% San Jose
23% Oklahoma City
23% San Antonio
22% Denver
22% Los Angeles
22% Tampa
21% Austin
20% Seattle
20% Virginia Beach
19% Chicago
19% Dallas
19% Houston
19% Portland
19% Washington DC
18% New York
18% Salt Lake City
17% Hartford
16% Buffalo
16% Charlotte
16% Grand Rapids
16% Jacksonville
16% New Orleans
16% Raleigh
15% Baltimore
15% Minneapolis
15% Rochester
14% Atlanta
14% Boston
14% Philadelphia
13% Kansas City
13% Milwaukee
12% Cleveland
12% Richmond
11% Columbus
11% Indianapolis
11% Providence
10% Detroit
10% Memphis
10% Nashville
10% Pittsburgh
9% Cincinnati
9% Louisville
6% Birmingham

[Docere]

Interesting, what this suggests to me is that 1) the majority of "mixed unions" in the US are NHW-Hispanic and that the "color line" (Black vs. non-Black) is weaker in the West.

[Docere]

For Toronto:

Black and White: 70,235

Asian groups and White: 76,430
South Asian and White: 33,900
Chinese and White: 20,245
Filipino and White: 9,680
Japanese and White: 5,795
Southeast Asian and White: 4,090
Korean and White: 2,720


Multiple visible minorities 97,185

Not a perfect measure - this is the proportion of these Visible Minority groups that also declare a European origin. 16% of Blacks and 4% of the Asian groups do so. The highest of all are Japanese (28.1%), they are very small and they're the only VM group that's majority native-born.

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by Docere

For Toronto:

Multiple visible minorities 97,185

The term 'visible minority' is archaic and increasingly doesn't make sense in the Canadian context. It's framed from the point of view of a 'white' person and also assumes that 'white' people represent 50.1% of the population. The 'white' population nationally will likely fall below 50% eventually and framing things from a white person's POV is offensive considering Canada is a multi-cultural state.

In Brampton, south Asians represented 44.1% of the population vs. 26% being of European descent. When south Asians breach 50% will people of European descent be counted as visible minorities? They'll be visible minorities to the majority of the population along with all those other visible minorities (anyone who is visibly not South Asian). You can't call South Asians in Brampton visible minorities when they're the dominant group.

[muppet]

For London 2011, there were 405,000 mixed race people (2.3x NYC). It may be nearing double now (fastest growing ethnic group, and growing by 80% or more every decade).

White and Black Caribbean 119,425
White and Black African 65,479
White and pan Asian 101,500
Other Mixed 118,875

Thus it's about 5% growing to 10% of the population. In terms of unions/ relationships rather than kids it's far higher, for example making up the majority of Black and East Asian relationships, and over a third of South Asian ones.

This year should be a marking point when the UK's largest minority group officially becomes 'mixed race'.

And even then, a BBC study found the real figure may be double the census:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-152...ays-new-report

[liat91]

Take it from a mixed person, the overall feeling of being a mixed person does not exist past being the product of a first generation union of a clearly juxtaposed couple.

Unfortunately, beyond that, mixed people begin jockeying on being more of this than that, or even denying a background altogether if they can get away with it.
More mixing, at this stage will only uplift those who aren’t.

[Docere]

Toronto, with European origins, under 15:

Japanese 64.1%
Black 19.5%
Korean 18.5%
Southeast Asian 13%
Filipino 12.3%
Chinese 10.1%
South Asian 5%

The majority of children of all groups are native-born. Koreans see the biggest increase (from 2.4% of the entire group to 18.5%).

[Urbanguy]

Here are some of the most common multi-racial, multi-ethnic or tribal combinations in Honolulu according to the 5-year (2014-2017) US Census Public Use Microdata Sample (PUMS). Approximately 230,000 people were of Mixed Races (23% of the population) in Honolulu according to the 5-year sample and of course increasing.

In the US there are 6 major Racial categories -- (1) White which includes Arabs, most Central Asians, West Asians and North Africans (e.g., Maghreb), (2) Black or African American (includes Caribbean Black, Sub-Saharan African), (3) Asian, (4) Pacific Islander, (5) Native American/Aboriginal/Amerindian/First Nations and Alaska Native and (6) Some other Race.

In Honolulu you can find people mixed across all 6 of these racial categories -- among the very few metros in the United States that can make that claim. FYI: The data directly below also includes ethnic combinations that are within the same racial category.

1 White; Native Hawaiian 20,477
2 White; Japanese 17,958
3 White; Filipino 14,241
4 White; Chinese; Native Hawaiian 14,160
5 Chinese; Japanese 9,769
6 Filipino; Native Hawaiian 9,568
7 White; Japanese; and/or Asian groups; and/or Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander groups; and/or Some Other Race 9,514
8 White; Chinese; Filipino; Native Hawaiian 9,320
9 Chinese; Native Hawaiian 8,313
10 Chinese; and/or Asian groups; and/or Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander groups; and/or Some Other Race 8,299
11 Filipino; Japanese 7,938
12 White; Chinese; Filipino; and/or Asian groups; and/or Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander groups; and/or Some Other Race 7,936
13 White; Filipino; Native Hawaiian 7,650
14 Chinese; Japanese; Native Hawaiian; and/or other Asian and/or Pacific Islander groups 6,881
15 White; Chinese; and/or Asian groups; and/or Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander groups; and/or Some Other Race 6,693
16 White; Chinese; Japanese; Native Hawaiian 6,511
17 Chinese; Filipino 5,912
18 Chinese; Filipino; Native Hawaiian 5,788
19 White; American Indian and Alaska Native 5,698
20 White; Japanese; Native Hawaiian 5,682
21 White; Black or African American 5,568
22 Japanese; Native Hawaiian 5,296
23 Filipino; and/or Asian groups; and/or Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander groups; and/or Some Other Race 5,161
24 White; American Indian and Alaska Native; and/or Asian groups; and/or Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander groups 4,521
25 White; Chinese 4,467
26 White; Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander groups; and/or Some Other Race 4,310
27 Japanese; Korean 4,190
28 Native Hawaiian; and/or Pacific Islander groups; and/or Some Other Race 4,140
29 Japanese; and/or Asian groups; and/or Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander groups; and/or Some Other Race 3,813
30 White; and/or Black or African American; and/or American Indian and Alaska Native; and/or Asian groups; and/or Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander groups; and/or Some Other Race 3,531
31 White; Samoan 2,757
32 White; Korean 2,567
33 White; Some Other Race 2,352
34 White; Chinese; Filipino 2,309
35 White; Filipino; and/or Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander groups; and/or Some Other Race 2,285
36 White; Chinese; Japanese 2,252
37 White; Black or African American; and/or Asian groups; and/or Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander groups; and/or Some Other Race 1,617
38 Filipino; Asian groups 1,570
39 White; Black or African American; American Indian and Alaska Native 1,553
40 White; American Indian and Alaska Native; Asian groups 1,520
41 Filipino; Some Other Race 1,514
42 White; Other Asian 1,508
43 White; Asian groups; and/or Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander groups; and/or Some Other Race 1,367
44 Black or African American; Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander groups 1,330
45 White; Other Pacific Islander 1,254
46 Chinese; Vietnamese 1,173
47 American Indian and Alaska Native; Asian groups; and/or Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander groups; and/or Some Other Race 1,066
48 Black or African American; American Indian and Alaska Native 970
49 American Indian and Alaska Native; Filipino 909
50 Chinese; Korean 893


Here are the 20 largest non-White or Black racial and/or ethnic groups -- mixed with Hispanic or Latino origins.

1 Puerto Rican-Native Hawaiian 2,338
2 Spanish/Hispanic/Latino-Filipino 2,030
3 Spanish/Hispanic/Latino-Native Hawaiian 1,015
4 Spanish/Hispanic/Latino-All combinations of Asian races 995
5 Puerto Rican-Filipino 568
6 Mexican-Native Hawaiian 521
7 Spaniard-Native Hawaiian 461
8 Mexican-Japanese 276
9 Mexican-Korean 202
10 Puerto Rican-Japanese 166
11 Puerto Rican-All combinations of Asian races 137
12 Mexican-Filipino 136
13 Mexican-All combinations of Asian races 136
14 Spanish/Hispanic/Latino-Other Pacific Islander 119
15 Spaniard-All combinations of Asian races 110
16 Spanish/Hispanic/Latino-Guamanian or Chamorro 98
17 Spaniard-Filipino 79
18 Puerto Rican-Other Pacific Islander 76
19 Spanish/Hispanic/Latino-Japanese 72
20 Cuban-Native Hawaiian 62
20 Argentinean-Native Hawaiian 62

[Docere]

Black and White racial identity and % of Black population:

New York 147,501 4.1%
Boston 66,042 14.7%
Los Angeles 65,109 6.9%
Washington 62,133 3.8%
Chicago 59,056 3.6%
Philadelphia 58,425 4.4%
Dallas 51,674 4.5%
Seattle 49,677 19.2%
Atlanta 47,336 2.4%
Miami 43,055 3.2%
Minneapolis 39,845 12.3%
Houston 38,313 3.2%
Phoenix 37,672 13.5%
San Francisco 37,082 9.7%
Riverside- 34,855 9.6%
Detroit 34,618 3.5%
Tampa 32,477 8.3%
Columbus 30,123 9%

[Capsicum]

Originally Posted by Docere

Toronto, with European origins, under 15:

Japanese 64.1%
Black 19.5%
Korean 18.5%
Southeast Asian 13%
Filipino 12.3%
Chinese 10.1%
South Asian 5%

The majority of children of all groups are native-born. Koreans see the biggest increase (from 2.4% of the entire group to 18.5%).

Why is Black-white a higher share in Canada than Asian-white, but reversed in the US? Is it relative proportion or the history of the color line pre 1960s (just like stateside, there is more black-white intermarriage in areas where the black community is "newer" or post 1960s)?

It's notable that Britain is more like Canada in that Asians intermarry with their own community more than Black Brits (as opposed to Americans).

[Docere]

A higher percentage of Black Canadians are native-born, and cross-ethnic marriage is very rare among the immigrant generation. In addition, South Asians have religious/cultural reasons not to intermarry with other groups.

I don't think native-born East Asians have any "aversion" to intermarriage/mixed unions - Japanese Canadians have by far the highest rate, and Koreans and Filipinos seem to be catching up pretty quickly.

[jtown,man]

I was just talking to my girlfriend the other day how insane it is that interracial marriages were illegal not that long ago(historically speaking).

Yet, I hear almost weekly that "race relations are worse than ever" or that "not much has changed since the Civil Rights era."

Bullshit. Accept progress(don't be blind to it) while also recognizing recent discrimination. Those two things can work together folks.

[liat91]

Originally Posted by jtown,man

I was just talking to my girlfriend the other day how insane it is that interracial marriages were illegal not that long ago(historically speaking).

Yet, I hear almost weekly that "race relations are worse than ever" or that "not much has changed since the Civil Rights era."

Bullshit. Accept progress(don't be blind to it) while also recognizing recent discrimination. Those two things can work together folks.

Your right in most ways and that’s what matters I guess. I’m concerned about what any society can do in the evolution of becoming increasingly mixed. Racism exists on 5 levels. The individual, family, community, nation and world. The source code being perceived value. All it takes is time to bake the results in.

Take the country of Panama, which is clearly a black/white/native mixed nation. This is a nation where it seems being black wouldn’t/shouldn’t be an issue. This example however, would indicate the troubling reality that is modern day Panama. Refer to the story about the guy with dred-locks.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost....epression/amp/

Racism at the individual and global levels are the most damaging imo, though all the levels bleed into each other.

[Docere]

Share of mixed unions:

NHW / Hispanic 42%
White/Asian 15%
White/Multiracial 12%
White/Black 11%
Hispanic / Black 5%

https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2017...intermarriage/

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by Docere

Share of mixed unions:
NHW / Hispanic 42%

a bit of a dubious distinction, depending on the specific circumstances.

i mean, my wife and i have been mistaken for a mixed white/latino couple before even though i'm all german/irish ancestry and she's all italian/sicilian ancestry, and we both grew up in predominately white upper middle class midwestern suburbs.



it's kinda funny how people are sometimes a little disappointed when we have to correct them that we're just a boring old generic white couple.

meanwhile, our neighbors are an actual mixed white/latino couple. him: generic white american mutt / her: immigrant from peru. but she's far "whiter" than my wife in terms of skin color.

it does make me question the meaning of some of this crap.

[Docere]

Yeah, Hispanics being treated as a "race" in popular discourse is problematic. Latin America and the Spanish-speaking Caribbean are multi-racial societies and many people with "Hispanic" heritage are functionally white.

[mrnyc]

hmm, when i was a kid for cleveland it was beachwood, kind of a wealthier suburb, that was seen as an aspirational place for wealthier mixed couples, like black and white. then places like warrensville hts, oakwood, maple hts and a few others. i think halle berry is probably the most known local from that area for this. the poor mixed areas were on the westside, basically anything between tremont/ohio city and west park neighborhoods, and then further west, skipping a few whitey burbs, until you get to very mixed lorain.

the whole thing is silly though these days, when this kind of thing is much, much more common everywhere. and thankfully so.

[JManc]

The problem with white/ Hispanic is that they are two different categories. One can be both. I'm Italian and and am often mistaken for Hispanic/ Latino. If an Italian grand parent moved to the US from South America, I would be Hispanic. Instead, they went directly from Italy to the US.

And white isn't really accurate since it traditionally does not include Middle Easterners and South Asians and is basically a 'catch all' for Non Hispanic white people of European decent.