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I like the 5 corners and the way the one facade drops down to almost street level. It gives the appearance that the entire hotel room tower doesn't sit on a pedestal. The curved glass corner will have nice curb appeal. We haven't seen the final design on the ped bridge or how they will update the area up to the creek, but despite the lower height, I think we have a winner here. But I respect the opinion of anyone who disagrees.
Being so close to I35, this thing is going to look quite tall, in fact, it will be the tallest building on the eastside of dt. Unless you stick your head out the window or have the roof down on your car, you won't be able to see the top when you drive by. Sould also add a nice bookend effect when viewing dt from the boardwalk.
I can wait to stay there or celebrate my birthday in this new hotel.
I hope other projects, mentioned on this board, break ground soon...
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...This project came reeeeally close to not getting financing and being put in turnaround, aka sell the land to cut their losses. The land could have sold...
The Manchester's are leasing the land...they do not own it!!! Who cares if the project didn't come through. Another one would not be that far behind this one. I know of three parties who were interested in the site.
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I'm sure it's to the spire. The roof height is probably around 450 feet. The JW Marriott has 12 foot floor-to-floor heights, so adding three more floors would make it 444 feet. I'll find out for sure what the height is.

Technically the hotel will still be the tallest in Texas (with the spire). Right now the tallest is the Sheraton Dallas Hotel Center Tower. It's 550 feet with 42 floors. Dallas has 3 hotels over 400 feet. Houston has one, with another one on the way. San Antonio has 2 and Fort Worth has 1.

Hotels over 400 feet:

Dallas - 3
San Antonio - 2 - (1 more planned)
Austin - 1 - (1 more planned) - 1 more that is mixed use, and another planned that is mixed use.
Houston - 1 - (1 more under construction)
Fort Worth - 1
If they cut 10 floors and didn't change anything else...then the top of the screen should be in the neighborhood of 470'-480' (then add the roughly 120' spire to get to 595').
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I believe this may be the "old" version. Look at the cut-out on the hotel floors...that is no longer there, correct?!?
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You must be blind. How are you typing on the computer?
So...a box almost 300' wide and maybe 470' tall is beautiful? I am personally not a fan of any building with this ratio (it's width is ⅔ of its height)!
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We can agree to disagree on this project. Yes I know it's disappointing but it's only 10 floors shorter, is it really that big of a deal? plus this will balance out the skyline. Having a 600ft or 700ft. tower on the eastern edge of downtown would look kind of tacky. Also on another note we have the Waller Creek project which if I'm not mistaken will start next month.
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Have you looked at the high quality glass and interesting facade? It isn't an ugly building at all.
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Actually, I think this is the new design. First of all, notice the channel running up the tower on the skinny side of it in the below rendering? You can see it in the rendering above, too. Notice the lights under wear that channel begins? You can see them in the rendering below also. Notice the podium has two horizontal bands of blank wall bordered by two horizontal bands with windows. The only thing that is different is the rendering above shows the skybridge connecting it to the convention center, but if you look at the rendering below you can see the notch where it connects to. I believe the rendering above is showing it from the north with the skybridge crossing Red River, while the one on the bottom is showing it from the west along Cesar Chavez.

So it looks to me like the north side of the building won't be very slabby and will be diminished by a setback.

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The skybridge is in the new rendering, it just looks much longer and kind of coincides with the horizon. But pretty sure what I'm looking at is the skybridge.
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Ah, you're right. Good eye. In any case, I think those do show the same design.
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Now that I've had a day to mull it over, I'm feeling much better about it. Either way, it's going to be a stylish, and dare I say, glamorous building. And compared to the no-man's-land that area is now, it's going to be a marked improvement. And that Dallas turd is fugly.

But the best part about this is that it's not going to be taller than the Austonian. I never liked the idea of the city's tallest building being on one end of the skyline, and personally, if something is going to top the Austonian, I'd prefer it do so legitimately, and not with a silly flagpole on the roof.

As far as that, on to the ECC site, boys. As far as this, she ain't perfect but I'll take 'er.
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$370m development in a current no mans land that will catalyze more development in the area...

Over 1000 rooms full of visitors ready to spend money downtown that will catalyze more entertainment and retail...

Hell yes I'll take it... Over nothing?? Hell to the yes.
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This updated design is a bit 'meh'... and I'm still having difficulty imagining a 37 story building being the 2nd tallest building in Austin. Even if the first few floors have extra ceiling clearance. I'm guessing, to Kevin's point, it's measured to the spire.
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They need to lose the spire. It doesn't fit with the current design. Other than that I'll take a 1000 room convention center hotel any day.

The current render versus the old looks the same to me minus 10 floors. How can everything be the same, footprint 1.74 acres, square footage 1.4 million, rooms 1066, cost 370 million and 10 floors get chopped off the top? I even heard a news reporter yesterday saying it was going to be 47 floors......I know Kevin will get us the true height but damn I wanted Austin to have the tallest hotel in Texas. And no a 100' flagpole doesn't count.
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