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We've seen many images of The Plaza over the years on NLA. I think there's a possibility we haven't seen this one before.


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I should know that impressive residence in the background (behind the Plaza Church on the left)....but I don't.
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postscript: Well the photograph isn't as rare as I first thought.
I just found a black and white version of this stereoview at http://waterandpower.org/museum/Earl...20(1800s).html
They name one of the buildings as the Cape House Restaurant, but i don't know if they mean the small building to the left of the Plaza Church
or the impressive building I mentioned earlier.

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I found this photograph of Firestone Station, Nov. 1932


pinterest at http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/or...1c6caea77d.jpg

I wonder what building is being reflected in the window?
I found an article about the history of the Firestone Park Sheriff's Station which includes the details below:

"In the early 1920’s, a decision was made to open the first real Sheriff’s Station in the Florence/Firestone Park area and this flagship effort, Station #1, had its beginnings in a leased storefront facility in the 1600 block of Florence Avenue near Maie Avenue. The First Station had an authorized complement of 25 Deputies: they fielded two patrol cars and two motorcycles and provided a small detective unit to investigate crimes. This was actually the catalyst for the planning of additional stations throughout the County.

The first facility, housing Station #1, on Florence Avenue was soon outgrown and a second leased building at 2201 Firestone Blvd. was opened in 1938. It served the Department's needs until the third and last Firestone Station, at 7901 S. Compton Avenue, was dedicated in 1955.

In its heyday, this station, with over 300 sworn and civilian personnel, served a racially diverse population approaching 250,000 in a patchwork area that covered over 40 square miles. Its jurisdiction was bounded on the north by Slauson Avenue, on the south by Lomita Blvd., on the west by Normandie Avenue and by the Los Angeles River on the east."


That means that the picture above shows the first Florence/Firestone Station which was on Florence Avenue. I'm pretty sure that the current building at that location isn't the one pictured here, and the building reflected in the window (whatever it was) has been replaced by a parking lot. By the time the pamphlet in e_r's original post was published (1946), the sheriff's station had moved to Firestone Boulevard address. Wikipedia says that the Florence and the East Los Angeles stations were the first sub-stations to open in 1924. It also says that the Florence station became the Firestone Park station in 1955 (which is when they moved to their third location at 7901 S. Compton Avenue), yet the picture below clearly shows the 2201 Firestone location with a "Firestone Park" sign.


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The lamps have gone, and the windows are a different design, but this building still stands.


GSV

I also found a 1993 LA Times article about the closing of the Firestone Park station on S Compton Avenue. It was designed by James H Garrott Jr, a prominent African American architect, was the first station in the county to be commanded by an African American captain, and the first sheriff's station in the county where African American deputies were allowed to ride in patrol cars. The building is now the Century Station Youth Activities League (YAL). The StreetView image below is from a couple of years ago (the latest image is quite blurry).


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We've seen many images of The Plaza over the years on NLA. I think there's a possibility we haven't seen this one before.


ebay

I should know that impressive residence in the background....but I don't.
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postscript: Well the photograph isn't as rare as I first thought.
I just found a black and white version of this stereoview at http://waterandpower.org/museum/Earl...20(1800s).html
They name one of the buildings as the Cape House Restaurant, but i don't know if they mean the small building to the left of the Plaza Church
or the impressive building I mentioned earlier.
Yes, the impressive two-story building behind and to the left of the church is the Cape House Restaurant on New High Street. The smaller building to the left of the church wall is the Andres Pico adobe. This is very early, maybe around 1880, as Jacob Philippi has yet to build his saloon up on Fort Moore Hill. It would appear, in 1882, on the crest of the hill on a direct line with the north wall of the church building. This image appears in The Los Angeles Plaza (Estrada) on page 86. They have it dated ca.1881.
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Here's the original of the image that e_r found on waterandpower.org. LAPL date it as "early 1870's".


LAPL

I've enlarged the restaurant building - the words "Cape House Restaurant" can be seen on the sign.


Detail of picture above.
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oh that's really cool. -good eye

...and thanks finding this little art-deco survivor, Firestone Station #2

GSV-originally posted by HossC

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Here's that Main Street cactus tree again, this time looking in the opposite direction!.


ebay


-here's my post from a few days ago with the same cactus tree, & info on the Round House School.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=23210

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I have no problem with the occasional repost of older images. It's difficult to sift through 932 (!) pages to illustrate a point.
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I agree Lwize. I think you read my post wrong. I was referring to two separate images of the same tree, one looking north...one looking south.

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HossC, I meant to thank you for the additional information you dug up about the nightclub Bal-Tabarin.

Here: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=23241

ebay


Here's another venue offering exotic ethnic entertainment, this one located downtown on Broadway.


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I was hoping that USC might have a zoomable picture that included the Cape House Restaurant above the Plaza. I'm still looking for one from a similar angle to the LAPL picture, but I did find one which shows the rear of the restaurant - it's roughly in the center of the foreground. USC date this picture at circa 1876.


USC Digital Library

USC also have a drawing of virtually the same scene which claims to be from "about 1876". The caption says it's "From the Historical Collection of Title Insurance and Trust Company". Being a drawing, it actually seems to be sharper than the photo above, so I've used it for the close-up below. Does anyone know what the small raised structure is above the roofs at the rear of the restaurant? It looks like it could only be reached by a ladder


Detail of photo at USC Digital Library


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HossC, I meant to thank you for the additional information you dug up about the nightclub Bal-Tabarin.
No problem - I forgot to thank you for the great aerial shots of the Hall of Records (and many other posts) .
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I was hoping I could find out more information on the Cape House Restaurant, but I kept coming up with nothing.

-But I did find this:
In this article from the April 30, 1881 Daily Herald the Cape House is briefly referred to as Moiso's Mansion.
(I'm also curious about the windmill that's mentioned several times in the court proceedings)


for the complete article about the Abarta trial go here http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...arRange&page=1


...I also found this earlier article of a real estate transaction from March 30, 1875.

-but I'm not sure if this is the same property as the Cape House. -refresh my memory...did Bellevue Terrace eventually become New High Street?

http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...arRange&page=1

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I was hoping I could find out more information on the Cape House Restaurant, but I kept coming up with nothing.

-But I did find this:
In this article from the April 30, 1881 Daily Herald the Cape House is briefly referred to as Moiso's Mansion.
(I'm also curious about the windmill that's mentioned several times in the court proceedings)


for the complete article about the Abarta trial go here http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...arRange&page=1


...I also found this earlier article of a real estate transaction from March 30, 1875.

-but I'm not sure if this is the same property as the Cape House. -refresh my memory...did Bellevue Terrace eventually become New High Street?

http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...arRange&page=1

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I believe Bellevue Terrace Tract is what's being referred to here. I don't remember Bellevue Terrace ever being a street. The Bellevue Terrace Hotel was on the NW corner of 6th and Figueroa ultimately supplanted by the Jonathan Club. The Bellevue Terrace Tract was north of 6th Street and stretched from Beaudry on the west to Olive on the east. It's northern boundary ran at an angle passing just north of the Normal School and ending just south of 4th and Olive. Block 101 of the Bellevue Terrace Tract would have been bounded by Olive, Charity (Grand), 6th and 5th Streets. The same block which would later host the Biltmore.

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Wow, I guess those guys had a really low appreciation for a pavarazzi taking their picture.
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you moved the cemetery, but you left the bodies!!!!!!!! - craig t. nelson in poltergeist


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Arrow points to bones of pioneer California soldier unearthed as Hollywood Freeway excavation cuts into the old Fort Moore Hill Cemetery. Soldier had been buried in full uniform, including silver spurs. Several caskets have been exposed. Photo dated: April 2, 1951.

creepy.....................................
Wow. The shortsightedness of city council and government. No one respects, or even knows, history. Let's build a freeway where a cemetery used to be!
How disrespectful.
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I posted the Google search method which I use back in post #19611. What I forgot to say is that you can also click on the "Images" tab near the top of the page. The results will include many other images which were posted on the same page as the words you're searching for, but it has proved effective enough to stop me from making reposts on a number of occasions. PM me if you want more help.

Thanks for that. I do remember you posting that method but ironically when I went to search for it, I couldn't find it. I had "site:..." hadn't been putting "noirish" in my search term.
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Here's that Main Street cactus tree again, this time looking in the opposite direction!.

-here's my post from a few days ago with the same cactus tree, & info on the Round House School.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=23210

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ER, thanks for the link to the previous post. This touches on something I have been meaning to mention for a while - re-posts of multiple photos when discussing a given subject.

As most users are aware the site search function leaves a bit to be desired. HossC posted a workaround as noted above, in post #19611, but there is another issue. Long posts with multiple photos use up much more bandwidth than long posts comprised of mostly text with only one or two photos. I do not know who is paying for NLA but I would have to guess that the costs have to be adding up as re-posts of numerous previously posted photos contribute to a need for additional bandwidth .

Referencing the original post number while deleting the photo links of any photos not being discussed would save a great deal of bandwidth while proving a quick access to the photos on the original post.

Cheers,
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Long posts with multiple photos use up much more bandwidth than long posts comprised of mostly text with only one or two photos. I do not know who is paying for NLA but I would have to guess that the costs have to be adding up as re-posts of numerous previously posted photos contribute to a need for additional bandwidth.

Referencing the original post number while deleting the photo links of any photos not being discussed would save a great deal of bandwidth while proving a quick access to the photos on the original post.
I completely agree about editing quotes that contain a large number of images, and it does use up more bandwidth (especially important to users on slow connections), but SkyscraperPage only hosts the text and the links to the images, not the images themselves. The bandwidth usage for the images is therefore passed on to the various image hosts.

I think some people might be put off editing quotes in case it goes wrong. I was thinking of putting together a little tutorial (does anyone want one?), but there are only a couple of simple rules to follow.

Please leave the start that says something like:



and also the end bit that says:



I've seen quite a few posts recently where the latter has been missing. If you leave both in place (or add them back afterwards - it's never too late), the little blue and white arrow will appear next to the original poster's name at the top of the quote. This arrow is a direct link back to the original post. It will look something like this:



Then use the captions to work out which unnecessary images can be deleted from the quote. If you're unsure of how your edits will look, make use of the "Preview Post" button before you submit the new post. You can always re-edit or start again!
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-good tutorial.

Here's LASD station #4, later Norwalk Station.


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Looks like they were just using a house at this point in time.

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During World War II the Army Corps of Engineers needed to hide the Lockheed Burbank Aircraft Plant to protect it from a possible Japanese air attack. They covered it with camouflage netting to make it look like a rural subdivision from the air.

Before



After



Setting up the camouflage netting



Above the netting



Below the netting



Source: Stories-ETC.Com
Can you imagine something like this happening today? There would be endless contract negotiations, the city would go with the lowest bidder, union contracts would be fought about, the job would get halfway done and then fall apart because the city went with the lowest bidder. By the time a competent company came in to finish the job the war would be over!
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