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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality
I found an address for an Oasis Bar at 736 S. Alvarado.
but the bar appears to have been replaced by the building shown below.
GSV
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Thanks,
ER! However,
HossC already revealed this location on
the previous page of this thread.
Your second discovery is very interesting, however.
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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality
The second mystery location.
I found an address for a "Catalino Bar & Grill Seafood" at 1640 Cahuenga Blvd. [1987 City Directory]
Here's 1640 Cahuenga today.
But I'm not entirely sure this is the correct place.
The Catalina in Scott Charles' 1987 photo doesn't appear to be concerned with FOOD. (the listing in the directory emphasizes GRILL and SEAFOOD)
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I checked out the "time travel" feature on Google street view and found
this street view from 2007:
GSV
This looks a LOT more like the screencap from
Barfly. But upon closer inspection, nothing matches perfectly:
Barfly has bricks whereas Google shows stones; the tree is in a different location, and the species is different; the placement of the windows doesn't match, nor does the placement of the doors.
I actually went to the Catalina Bar and Grill way back in 1987 - I saw Dizzy Gillespie perform there, and got to speak to him after the show. Dizzy's appearance was apparently responsible for putting the Catalina on the map as a serious jazz venue.
BUT - 1987 was the same year that
Barfly was filmed. Articles like
this one and
this one say that the owner, Bob Popescu, named the new bar and grill after his wife,
Catalina Catalui, so the name "Catalina" certainly does not predate 1986 (the year that the Catalina opened).
Popescu and his wife were trying to establish a
classy bar and grill jazz joint. It seems
highly unlikely that this would lead to having signs that described the place as being almost a
titty bar - nor is it likely that one would name said almost-titty bar after your wife and co-owner.
In addition, the "Catalina" sign is neon. This seems unlikely for a new bar in 1987, as neon signs were largely
replaced by more energy efficient signs during the early 1970s. To make matters worse, there is no mention, at any time, of anything relating to "Yoshiko".
Going by all of this, I would have to conclude that the Catalina from Barfly is not the same as the Catalina at 1640 Cahuenga. I don't know if I'll ever find out where the Catalina was located.
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By the way, has this ever happened on Noirish LA before? That a business, clearly photographed, existing until at least 1987, with name clearly visible, simply cannot be located?