Future Canadian Skylines

[mistercorporate]

blue = under construction
yellow = going through sales (typically needs 70% of units sold before construction can begin)
red = officially submitted proposal (going through approvals process)

[Innsertnamehere]

Originally Posted by MonkeyRonin

Great work, thanks for that. Very comprehensive. Aside from 77 River, the only omission that I'm conscious of is the big 177-197 Front Street East development.


Is there a link that we can use to view it in Google Earth?

Ive got 177 in my "on hold" file as we havent heard any news on it for a while.

and no, no online file. Its pretty big. Maybe I'll eventually throw together a kmz and upload it, but not today.

[Gresto]

Nice work, Insertnamehere! Thanks for that. Also missing, of course, is Oxford Place, but no one knows what's really happening there yet.

[WhipperSnapper]

Would expect to see more yellow on these maps. Could be a big year in that regard.

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally Posted by Gresto

Nice work, Insertnamehere! Thanks for that. Also missing, of course, is Oxford Place, but no one knows what's really happening there yet.

Let it go.

[Innsertnamehere]

Oxford place is dead. I deleted a long time ago from the model. If it comes back, I'll put it in, but right now it is as dead as the Sapphire tower as far as I am concerned. They never even filed an application to the city for it for christs sake..


The amount of yellow is about normal, but there have been a bunch of proposals added recently. The colours always shift around a lot in the spring, lots of yellows switch to blue, reds switch to yellow, etc.

Give it 3 months and there will be a lot less red most likely.

[caltrane74]

I'm sure we won't have to wait much longer for a re-imagined vision of Oxford Place to emerge from the developers. There is a lot of redevelopment potential at the Convention Centre, hell that's why Oxford bought the place. The old Oxford Place proposal was testament to the scale of redevelopment that is possible at that place. I wouldn't be surprised to see something released before the end of the year that doesn't even touch the convention centre and still ends up easily over 1000 feet/300 meters.

[WhipperSnapper]

There's are dozens of sites with much greater development potential with owners actively looking to tap into that potential. The current improvements, if any, aren't generating nearly as much revenue as the convention centre property. The only reason people continue to cling to Oxford Place is because of a couple renderings developed to express the potential to the city by allowing casinos. Of course, a resort of this magnitude as depicted in these renderings would be extremely unlikely even if the city said yes. We aren't Las Vegas or Macao.

My point being, you can't go by anything you have seen in regards to this site. Let it go. Otherwise, you are just setting yourself up for major disappointment because I know height trumps all to those that continue to dream of it.

[FrankieFlowerpot]

Originally Posted by caltrane74

I'm sure we won't have to wait much longer for a re-imagined vision of Oxford Place to emerge from the developers. There is a lot of redevelopment potential at the Convention Centre, hell that's why Oxford bought the place. The old Oxford Place proposal was testament to the scale of redevelopment that is possible at that place. I wouldn't be surprised to see something released before the end of the year that doesn't even touch the convention centre and still ends up easily over 1000 feet/300 meters.

As WS says

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[mistercorporate]

Originally Posted by caltrane74

I'm sure we won't have to wait much longer for a re-imagined vision of Oxford Place to emerge from the developers. There is a lot of redevelopment potential at the Convention Centre, hell that's why Oxford bought the place. The old Oxford Place proposal was testament to the scale of redevelopment that is possible at that place. I wouldn't be surprised to see something released before the end of the year that doesn't even touch the convention centre and still ends up easily over 1000 feet/300 meters.

Regardless of how long it takes (2 years, 10 years), this proposal is coming back and will be constructed in one form or another, it just makes sense.
I refuse to let it go!

[WhipperSnapper]

"one form or another"

exactly.

[LeftCoaster]

Like we've all been saying for quite some time now; Oxford Place as it was shown last year is not going to happen.

Of course at some point something can be built on the site, but it's back to square one as far as the development is concerned.

[Gresto]

Originally Posted by FrankieFlowerpot

As WS says

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I say "Nay!" to that twaddle. Luba's "Let It Go" is more my style. '80s music forever!

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Otherwise, you are just setting yourself up for major disappointment because I know height trumps all to those that continue to dream of it.

Poppycock. Height doesn't trump all. That seems to be your stock supercilious accusation against anyone who laments the loss of a tall Toronto skyscraper. I fully admit to being something of a height junkie (isn't that outlandish on a site called Skyscraperpage!), and I liked the designs we saw some time ago (whether official or not), but I positively don't support height at any expense, certainly not of reason. Personally, I did not like the location of the main towers, as they would have substantially blocked CN Tower sightlines.

[TriWolf]

Originally Posted by MeIsThomas

I made a new future Hamilton rendering...


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Source




Original Photo: Hamilton Skyline by ColinCarmichael, on Flickr

Never thought I would live to see the day Hamilton's skyline would change at all XD

[Prometheus]

I was shocked when Toronto politicians shot down the casino and the big city development and amenities it could have supported. Such a Vancouver move.

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally Posted by Gresto

I say "Nay!" to that twaddle. Luba's "Let It Go" is more my style. '80s music forever!

Poppycock. Height doesn't trump all. That seems to be your stock supercilious accusation against anyone who laments the loss of a tall Toronto skyscraper. I fully admit to being something of a height junkie (isn't that outlandish on a site called Skyscraperpage!), and I liked the designs we saw some time ago (whether official or not), but I positively don't support height at any expense, certainly not of reason. Personally, I did not like the location of the main towers, as they would have substantially blocked CN Tower sightlines.

Hey, I'm just trying to keep things grounded here to prevent a pitchfork carrying mob from descending on City Hall.

My post was in response to Caltranes. I don't really want to go further into explanation. I care.

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally Posted by Prometheus

I was shocked when Toronto politicians shot down the casino and the big city development and amenities it could have supported. Such a Vancouver move.

What do you mean by big city development and amenities?

[caltrane74]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

What do you mean by big city development and amenities?

Mall? Hotels? Rail Decking?

It will be a world class destination that enhances, and is consistent with, the vision for the neighbourhood. Oxford Place will include a revitalized and expanded convention centre that will draw new convention business and associated tourism to Toronto; significant new retail space that will transform Front Street into a pedestrian friendly environment with an animated street front featuring world-class retailers; a public plaza that joins Front Street and the waterfront through physical and visual corridors with high quality, open green space; office space employing the latest in sustainable technology, to complement the existing downtown commercial real estate offering; rental residential apartments that appeal to a broad range of Torontonians; and an iconic hotel, that welcomes visitors to our City and the neighbourhood.

Transportation

Oxford Place will be centered in the heart of downtown Toronto, and will be accessible by local and regional mass transportation, walking, biking and driving. Oxford Place will be PATH connected to Union Station which is currently undergoing an expansion and revitalization that will be completed by 2015. The development will be woven into the existing infrastructure of the City of Toronto.

Infrastructure Improvements

Oxford Place will tie into Toronto’s existing infrastructure and Oxford will fund a sustainable contribution to the existing transportation infrastructure with new below grade roads. Indepth studies by world leading traffic consultants
are underway, coupled with input from one of the world’s leading mixed use urban centre architectural teams. The importance of getting pedestrian and traffic flow right and undertaking careful planning on this topic is key to the success
of the project and neighbourhood. The plan will move bus, truck, and taxi traffic off of public thoroughfares and down to a new below grade road, built and funded by Oxford, relieving the queuing pressure presently on Bremner and
Front Streets. New parking will be added below grade and five access points will be provided to the site on Simcoe, Front Street, Blue Jays Way, Bremner and potentially Lakeshore.

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally Posted by caltrane74

Mall? Hotels? Infrastructure Improvements? Rail Decking?

We have hotels. We have malls. Don't think we lost anything by not having big box suburban casinos.

Oxford Place was never going to happen either way so quoting it doesn't support anything.

[Chadillaccc]

Is decking over the tracks something being seriously considered in Toronto? I'd love to see it here. The tracks are like a scar through the city.